CitizenX Posted September 19, 2011 Report Posted September 19, 2011 (edited) Under bills C-50, C-51 and C-52, which the Conservatives tabled in the last Parliament and reportedly plan to table again this fall, police would be able to collect emails, phone numbers, addresses and other information about Internet users without a warrant. http://stopspying.ca/ Lawful Access Legislation: 8 In 10 Oppose Internet Surveillance Without A Warrant Advocates, politicians campaign against Conservatives' proposed 'snooping law' Why won't PM talk about his online spying bills? I tried to create a poll but something went wrong. Anyway I tried to find the other side of this argument but with no success. Do you agree with this Legislation? Ohh yaa I'm Looking forward to this new documentary Edited September 19, 2011 by CitizenX Quote "The rich people have their lobbyists and the poor people have their feet." The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato
scribblet Posted September 20, 2011 Report Posted September 20, 2011 I'd like to see the pertinent sections of the legislation, and if it is exactly as reported, so far I haven't seen the bill, or at least the sections of it that do away with requiring a warrant. Is the bill tabled now ? If it is as reported, then I don't agree with warrantless searches. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
CitizenX Posted September 21, 2011 Author Report Posted September 21, 2011 (edited) I'd like to see the pertinent sections of the legislation, and if it is exactly as reported, so far I haven't seen the bill, or at least the sections of it that do away with requiring a warrant. Is the bill tabled now ? If it is as reported, then I don't agree with warrantless searches. BILL C-50 184.4 A peace officer may intercept, by means of any electro-magnetic, acoustic, mechanical or other device, a private communication if the peace officer has reasonable grounds to believe that (a) the urgency of the situation is such that an authorization could not, with reasonable diligence, be obtained under any other provision of this Part; ( the interception is immediately necessary to prevent an offence that would cause serious harm to any person or to property; and © either the originator of the private communication or the person intended by the originator to receive it is the person who would commit the offence that is likely to cause the harm or is the victim, or intended victim, of the harm. BILL C-52 3. The purpose of this Act is to ensure that telecommunications service providers have the capability to enable national security and law enforcement agencies to exercise their authority to intercept communications and to require telecommunications service providers to provide subscriber and other information, without unreasonably impairing the privacy of individ- uals, the provision of telecommunications services to Canadians or the competitiveness of the Canadian telecommunications industry. Internet surveillance proposals face more scrutiny The bills from the last session included: C-50, Access to Investigative Tools for Serious Crimes Act, which would give police the power to intercept private communications without a warrant under certain circumstances. C-51, Investigative Powers for the 21st Century Act, which would allow police to get warrants to obtain information transmitted over the internet and data related to its transmission, including locations of individuals and transactions; and orders that would compel other parties to preserve electronic evidence. C-52, Investigating and Preventing Criminal Electronic Communications Act, which would require internet service providers to have infrastructure that will allow law enforcement agents to intercept internet communications of their customers; and provide basic information about their subscribers to law enforcement. Stop Online Spying Edited September 21, 2011 by CitizenX Quote "The rich people have their lobbyists and the poor people have their feet." The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato
William Ashley Posted September 21, 2011 Report Posted September 21, 2011 (edited) no longer only on tv big brother is watching - YOU. In soviet russia tv watches you. in soviet russia the internet web searches you Edited September 21, 2011 by William Ashley Quote I was here.
Shwa Posted September 22, 2011 Report Posted September 22, 2011 Seems to me that they are simply giving the police the same powers that private citizens have enjoyed for years. Quote
scribblet Posted September 22, 2011 Report Posted September 22, 2011 That's the old bill, the new one was introduced this week, sans internet surveilance. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
CitizenX Posted September 27, 2011 Author Report Posted September 27, 2011 (edited) Conservatives omit online spying in crime bill Lawful access, the Conservatives' planned Internet surveillance legislation, has generated considerable attention over the past week as the government decided against including it in their first omnibus crime bill. That decision generated widespread media coverage, claims that the government had backed down in the face of a 70,000 signature online petition, and a debate in the House of Commons in which Public Safety Minister Vic Toews promised that warrantless online wiretapping is not planned. Peering Closely at Tories' Online Spying WishesPublic debate on lawful access misses real dangers to what Conservatives want. While lawful access critics likely feel like this is a cause for celebration, there is still every reason to believe that lawful access is only delayed, not dead. Edited September 27, 2011 by CitizenX Quote "The rich people have their lobbyists and the poor people have their feet." The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato
eyeball Posted September 27, 2011 Report Posted September 27, 2011 (edited) there is still every reason to believe that lawful access is only delayed, not dead Justice Minister Rob Nicholson said it best, "we're just getting started". Edited September 27, 2011 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
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