No Canada? At International EXPO

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See: http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2011/06/09/auditor-general-g8-g20-report-harper-clement-muskoka-toronto_n_873746.html

Thanks. Someone else on another forum that I was arguing with asked.

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Only cause they are stupid.

IT IS THE G8 G20 THE INDUSTRIALIZED RICH NATIONS.. yet they can't set their own budget, is the G8/G20 suddenly a socialist organization.

It was horrible.

I havn't seen a single positive tangible result.

No they could have rented rooms. TOO MANY PEOPLE... getting together a few hundred people is done all the time.

Show me any multinational corporation that had a meeting of VP's and paid $17,000,000 on accommodations for two days.

No the Canadian tax payer should NOT have been on the hook for those costs, and local police and the national security apparatus should have been able to do things with their existing budget. An insecure locality is what drove up the costs.. most of the focus was on attacking protestors...

this is what the g8/g20 has turned into.. beat up the left.

It is utterly negligent and irresponsible for tax payer funds to spend 1/250th of a years taxes on one event.

My god, you're an idiot, seriously, do you have any concept of how ridiculous you are? For example, how many companies gather 11,000 vp's in one place for a meeting? Do you read what you write, ever?

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Still waiting to see evidence that Canada pays its own way at such summits, or details about what the "accomidation costs" were for.

Results of the summit...

- Agreements to impose tax on financial services organizations

- Agreement to reduce Debt/GDP ratio

- Free trade agreements made

OK and why coulnd't Canada tax businesses in Canada before this?

OK and why couldn't Canada agree.. ok hold on.. this hasn't happened DEBT/GDP ratio isn't being reduced.

OK and Canada is going its own on these anyway.

POINT BEING NOTHING WAS ACHEIVED THAT COULDN'T AND ISN'T BEING DONE UNILATERALLY.

Also, keep in mind that other summits have produced valuable results:

- 2009 agreement to regulate hedge funds

- Financial aid to struggling economies

- Regulate within Canada for foreign outflow who cares about hedges if you regulate capital movements domestically.

- That is nothing that businesses in Canada couldn't do. Throwing away a bunch of money that could be done on a national basis for national objectives is nothing that coulnd't be done unilaterally. If G8/G20 countries have workable businessplans for "struggling economies" then they can invest. Its not like they didn't buy out the third world and rape it before 2009. It is allusionary.

These type of meetings DO produce results, even if the Canadian meeting didn't have any major announcements.

Show me how many multinational corporations require the rather large security accomodations that the summit required.

THE DON'T NEED IT. They MADE IT by making a theme park for protestors.

Not really. I doubt the Toronto police force had only limited resources.

Ummm... where exactly do you think a "secure locality" is?

Places with one road going in and out and an airport and helicopter, and an ability to set up check points at say 1 2 5 10 20 50 and 100 km. Major urban centers need not apply. Bring a tent like Gaddafi and call it a day.

Run it in concert with NANOOK. Fact is it was just showboating at the taxpayers expense and that makes me want to hurl. SHAME ON THE SCUM. THEY SHOULD BE SPENDING THEIR OWN SALARIES FOR LUXURY NOT THE PUBLIC PURSE.

It just isn't polite to tax people for extravagance, they should be earning it. Government is not business, if they want it let them be bribed by businesses, but taxpayers are getting little tangibility from this. It is just a camp and symposium... governments read taxpayers shouldn't be paying for it. IF they are so rich they should just put in dues to cover the costs... from their own pockets. World leaders already have private security (harper for instance spent 50 million on private security on the taxpayer dime this year (you would not believe how much Obama's security costs annually (although officially it costs about 1/3rd of harpers at $44000 a day the net says - george bush cost less at $43.5 or 60 million; Obama is said with varying figures to be as high as $160 million, frankly VIP security was NOT an issue, all it needed was coordination - the security funds were to beat up commies and lefties and abuse people) . They could bring in a detachment / company of special forces and save the 200 million.

Edited August 27, 2011 by William Ashley