eyeball Posted May 24, 2011 Report Posted May 24, 2011 I won't speculate on what Jesus would or would not do. But it is good to see that that you acknowledge that you simply don't give a damn about justice. Suggesting that vengeance has no place in our justice system is clear evidence to the contrary. I care more deeply about justice than you're capable of comprehending. No. It is an accurate description for someone who blindly adhers to the notion that the human was is headed for a crash because "something has got give". You have no evidence to support your claims. It is nothing but a religious belief for you. Well, notwithstanding the fact I never made any particular claims - I simply questioned the wisdom of your's - I do have good reason to continue doing so... Are you aware of the state of our planet's commercial fisheries? There's a lot of injustice in what human's have done to the world's oceans, there's even a bit of vengeance going on too. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bloodyminded Posted May 24, 2011 Report Posted May 24, 2011 (edited) I won't speculate on what Jesus would or would not do. But it is good to see that that you acknowledge that you simply don't give a damn about justice. Eyeball said he doesn't believe that vengeance has any place in our justice system. This distinctly implies--by definition, mind you--that he believes in a concept of justice, and cares about it. You evidently demand that anyone not in 100% agreement with you on a matter such as "justice" must not "give a damn about it" at all. Edited May 24, 2011 by bloodyminded Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
TimG Posted May 25, 2011 Author Report Posted May 25, 2011 (edited) Eyeball said he doesn't believe that vengeance has any place in our justice system.He defines 'vengence' to be any punishment he does not agree with. It is a self serving definition that serves no purpose.You evidently demand that anyone not in 100% agreement with you on a matter such as "justice" must not "give a damn about it" at all.Eyeball acuses me of being out for vengence because I want to see punishments that fit the crime. I accuse him of not giving a damn about justice because he refuses to accept punishment as a key aspect of the justice system. I fail to see why you would single me out for criticism. We are both playing rhetorical games with words. Edited May 25, 2011 by TimG Quote
GostHacked Posted May 25, 2011 Report Posted May 25, 2011 He defines 'vengence' to be any punishment he does not agree with. It is a self serving definition that serves no purpose. Eyeball acuses me of being out for vengence because I want to see punishments that fit the crime. I accuse him of not giving a damn about justice because he refuses to accept punishment as a key aspect of the justice system. I fail to see why you would single me out for criticism. We are both playing rhetorical games with words. I think there is a difference here. Seeking vengence to me says that one would welcome and get some kind of sick enjoyment out of seeing the offender get his due reward. Vengence can work outside the justice system with even worse results. Where as a person seeking justice has to work in the confines of the system to see the offender get his due reward. Quote
eyeball Posted May 25, 2011 Report Posted May 25, 2011 He defines 'vengence' to be any punishment he does not agree with. It is a self serving definition that serves no purpose. No I clearly defined state sponsored vengeance as being justice that is weighted with hatred and resentment. I never said anything about punishment. Eyeball acuses me of being out for vengence because I want to see punishments that fit the crime. I accuse him of not giving a damn about justice because he refuses to accept punishment as a key aspect of the justice system. I fail to see why you would single me out for criticism. We are both playing rhetorical games with words. Actually I accused you of wanting to see our justice system being converted into a vengeance system. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Tilter Posted June 4, 2011 Report Posted June 4, 2011 OK guys--- just remember that these guys you call NUTS are actually right---- all they have wrong is the date :lol: Quote
Sir Bandelot Posted June 4, 2011 Report Posted June 4, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVBRl3mqbfQ People look to me and say,Is the end near, when is the final day?What's the future of mankind?How do I know,I got left behind... Quote
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