Who's Doing What? Posted May 2, 2011 Report Posted May 2, 2011 I have no problem with a minority Govt. I don't even mind that the Tories lead it. What gets me is when Harper & co. start adding rediculous crap into things like the budget for no other reason than to bully the other parties into agreement, or force them to cause another election. IF the parties could comprise then a minority is the best, safest, route for this country. Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
capricorn Posted May 2, 2011 Report Posted May 2, 2011 The right wing is already fractured. HaHaHa! Man are you behind the times or what. Just take a look at the 'Principled Conservative' freepers who now despise Harper and are voting either Liberal or Christian Heritage. Look? Look where? Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Sandy MacNab Posted May 2, 2011 Report Posted May 2, 2011 HaHaHa! Man are you behind the times or what. Look? Look where? Behind the times by at least five years. The Conservatives I know are as far from being religious zealots as the NDP are from being self-sufficient, productive members of society. Quote
Rick Posted May 3, 2011 Report Posted May 3, 2011 HaHaHa! Man are you behind the times or what. Look? Look where? lol well since you are the one apparently behind the times and unaware of the deeping fault line growing within the CPC... look hereOr in Sandy's case...here You're welcome by the way Quote “This is all about who you represent,” Mr. Dewar (NDP) said. “We’re (NDP) talking about representing the interests of working people and everyday Canadians and they [the Conservatives] are about representing the fund managers who come in and fleece our companies and our country. Voted Maple Leaf Web's 'Most Outstanding Poster' 2011
Sandy MacNab Posted May 3, 2011 Report Posted May 3, 2011 lol well since you are the one apparently behind the times and unaware of the deeping fault line growing within the CPC... look here Or in Sandy's case...here You're welcome by the way This Free Dominioon stuff is ancient history; by no means anything new. Free Dominion is dominated and tightly controlled by a teeny weeny group of fundamentalists who, since he was first elected PM, have been pissed off at Harper for not adopting their extremely backward social agenda. They thought - irrationally - that Harper and the CPC in general believed what they do. Unfortunately for them, the CPC is just as secular as all the other parties. I'd bet there are more NDPers who believe in UFOs than Conservatives who buy FD's social narrow-mindedness. BTW, I was booted out of FD for daring to point out how they were violating Christ's teaching. I am not a member of any religion or religious sect - I'm an agnostic. Quote
Roger Steele Posted May 3, 2011 Author Report Posted May 3, 2011 Well the polls close here in Alberta in 15 minutes and we'll be able to see what is happening in the formerly Liberal Eastern Canada. I have stated in other threads and see it mentioned here many times and many ways. The Old Boy Liberal Party is in serious trouble. They have not kept up with the changing times. They still have too many of the Cretien/Trudeau era members and ideas. That in combination with a leader who suffers from foot in mouth disease may well put the Liberal Party in a position they have never before seen in the history of Canada. Also-rans. It took the revolution of the Alliance Party to reshape the Conservative Party of Canada, this may well be the election that makes the LPC wake up and realize that they need to evolve or dissolve. As I stated when I started this thread. Good luck to my fellow Canadians. I fear a minority Gov't which is not what we need at this time. Only time will prove me right or wrong. I hope I am wrong and we come out of this election in good shape and we continue to be seen as strong leaders of the modern world. Quote
Smallc Posted May 3, 2011 Report Posted May 3, 2011 Well the polls close here in Alberta in 15 minutes and we'll be able to see what is happening in the formerly Liberal Eastern Canada. The polls are closed in Alberta now. Quote
Moonbox Posted May 3, 2011 Report Posted May 3, 2011 Correct based on previous election results, however, current polls the ones you claim to be so very versed in but heretofore have provided on substance to back up your claims, indicate that even in Ontario NDP support is on the rise. To say less is to be utterly out of touch with reality. The fact remains, the CPC has been at best flat, and the NDP is rising. But I suppose your partisan blinders are preventing you from even acknowledging this fact. What poll/polls specifically are you referring to that shows this expanded CPC minority will materialize? What do you base your opinions on? HEY DAVE. The compiled polling predictions were coming in at 144-160 CPC seats and that's what I was telling you. Where you at right now? Got any facts to back up YOUR blathering? Wait...you've been totally proven wrong now. Have a good night and enjoy the next 4 years. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
BC_chick Posted May 3, 2011 Report Posted May 3, 2011 Wow, the Quebec results are astounding. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
Roger Steele Posted May 3, 2011 Author Report Posted May 3, 2011 (edited) The polls are closed in Alberta now. You are so right. My bad! I am so happy to have been proven wrong. A majority Government for Canada. Now Harper needs to continue to lead us out of this global recession. My hat is off to Jack Layton and the NDP but I think he will have his hands full trying to represent all of those people in Quebec at the same time as the rest of his supporters in the other provinces. Ignatieff is getting the message load and clear. He may not even get elected back into parliament. Now he can go back to the US were he is happy and maybe even wanted!! It has been fun communicating with all of you. There have been a lot of very good conversations and comments made in all of the threads in these forums. Edited May 3, 2011 by Roger Steele Quote
Keepitsimple Posted May 3, 2011 Report Posted May 3, 2011 Hah that sounds like a deal to me, does hollandaise sauce go well with crow? I wouldn't consider myself and NDP, and I'm one of the few voting for a candidate as opposed to the party itself. I'm fascinated by the apparent implosion of the LPC and the rush of the NDP to supplant them, and at how aghast and off balance this has made the CPC. They were prepared to slug it out with Ignatieff and the LPC, but this is a devil they don't know and weren't prepared to deal with. Probably one of the most exciting elections I can remember that's for certain. You might want to take the feathers off that crow....... Quote Back to Basics
Dave_ON Posted May 3, 2011 Report Posted May 3, 2011 You might want to take the feathers off that crow....... Touche, the feathers provide extra roughage however. Excellent guess btw within 4 seats fairly impressive. However, it appears most, including me far underestimated the NDP count. I never would have pegged them to break 100. The vote splitting they caused in Ontario was further reaching than I though possible. It even affected the very popular incumbant Glen Pearson in my riding. It was a margin of about 1.5k votes. It was literally NDP 9k, LPC 10 CPC 11. That's just crazy. The amount of support the NDP received in Ontario over last election is somewhat staggering. Ontario was on the tail end of the surge so the vote splitting was most severe here. It will be interesting to see what happens next election, how the NDP/CPC dynamic will play out. Quote Follow the man who seeks the truth; run from the man who has found it. -Vaclav Haval-
Tilter Posted May 3, 2011 Report Posted May 3, 2011 (edited) The problem for the Liberals is that they are moving down to a place they've never been, whereas that was the NDP's home for a while, and are now moving up. Positive movement will always be better than negative movement which destroys morale. Yeah-- the NDP with all it's seasoned :lol: MPs like the one from Quebec that doesn't speak French and decided to take a week in Vegas during the campaign :blink:, the "seasoned" university student MPs and the "bewildered newbys" who ran with the expectation of losing & getting back to running the Bodega-- actually those guys will give the NDP the advantage of being someone who has actually ran a business & has signed pay checks which gives them a different view of things than the socialists. Looking forward to the merger of orange & red--- what does that make??? brown? Edited May 3, 2011 by Tilter Quote
Keepitsimple Posted May 3, 2011 Report Posted May 3, 2011 (edited) Touche, the feathers provide extra roughage however. Excellent guess btw within 4 seats fairly impressive. However, it appears most, including me far underestimated the NDP count. I never would have pegged them to break 100. The vote splitting they caused in Ontario was further reaching than I though possible. It even affected the very popular incumbant Glen Pearson in my riding. It was a margin of about 1.5k votes. It was literally NDP 9k, LPC 10 CPC 11. That's just crazy. The amount of support the NDP received in Ontario over last election is somewhat staggering. Ontario was on the tail end of the surge so the vote splitting was most severe here. It will be interesting to see what happens next election, how the NDP/CPC dynamic will play out. You're a good sport. I too was impressed at the breadth of the NDP support in Ontario. Quebec was just other worldly. A couple of observations: 1) In terms of seats, the Left is now in almost the same situation that led to the three Chretien majorities. Back then, it was a fractured Right that endured 11 years of Liberal Majorities - all with just 40% of the popular vote - same as the Conservatives have today. 2) Chretien majorities depended on sweeping Ontario with a presence in Quebec and the Maritimes. Liberals going back to Trudeau have ignored the West. We now have a power structure that includes Ontario AND the West - the first time in modern history. East meets West. A welcome change - and one that has the potential to be truly uniting. Edited May 3, 2011 by Keepitsimple Quote Back to Basics
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