Are women in danger of losing their abortion rights?

[CPCFTW]

No they are not. The left in Canada are worse fear mongers than Fox News. Don't worry guys, if Harper gets a majority government, there won't be gay lynch mobs and forced conscription to launch a world war III either. Hope you can sleep well tonight.

[RNG]

No they are not. The left in Canada are worse fear mongers than Fox News. Don't worry guys, if Harper gets a majority government, there won't be gay lynch mobs and forced conscription to launch a world war III either. Hope you can sleep well tonight.

After he gets his majority and send the armed black-shirts into the streets, you will be well protected, as long as you aren't a pinko, commie leftist, or someone thinks you are a pinko, commie leftist.

Sin,

Libs and NDP

[Mr.Canada]

In a word. No.

[Molly]

Perhaps if there hadn't been a second victim involved, and the likely target of the attack, I would be more sympathetic. Does your point include crinimally insane murderers getting a pass because their mental/emotional state is punishment enough? And if not, please explain how this woman is so special.

I've been hoping to get back to this for days!

My challenge is based on the practical effect of whatever restriction you want in place. I can understand the wish to punish this woman.. but I seriously doubt you could write such a law in any way that would result in her being found criminally responsible. Seriously, think about it. What emotional state/what intellectual state would enable anyone to do such a thing? And civil responsibility? Does this sound like someone who would ever amass enough assets to keep herself, much less satisfy a civil judgement?

So... you are talking about writing law 1) based on truly extraordinary circumstances ; that 2) would be trumped out of existence for any cases where you might sensibly want it to apply; but which 3) would would still apply to more common situations, and be used instead in an harrassment campaign against people who already have more grief than anyone should have to bear.

So, I'd oppose any such law.

Edit-- cont.

Edited April 29, 2011 by Molly

[Molly]

"I wouldn't give a crap about this issue if it wasn't for women like that brain-dead imbecile in Saskatchewan who shot herself up the vagina with a pellet gun and lodged a pellet in the head of her 8.5 month along fetus. That kid has no legal basis to sue her for assault causing bodily harm now that he's born and brain-damaged because he wasn't a person when he was assaulted. There is no crime against him. That's morally repugnant."

Those are your words. That brain-dead imbecile fairly screams a fundamental disrespect for the circumstance she was in. To be able to say such a thing, you are clearly not seeing it at all through her eyes... not trying to, or even not capable. Some sympathy, though, might be in order.

I know that I have told the story before, of a girl I met on a maternity ward. She was maybe 15. When she was found to be pregnant, her parents sent her off to stay with her granny who devoted that time to terrorize her with horror stories, telling her that childbirth was a punishment from God, and since she was such a foul creature as to have had sex so young, God was really going to make her pay. It was toward the end of her pregnancy that doctors finally took note of her life-threatening heart condition. When I saw her last, they were still trying to decide whether anaesthesia or labour would be less likely to kill her.

Dunno. What might you do if you were increasingly seeing yourself as a character from the movie 'Alien'?

[guyser]

What might you do if you were increasingly seeing yourself as a character from the movie 'Alien'?

Bring Ripley coffee in bed and not befriend Ash at any cost ?

[Mr.Canada]

Bring Ripley coffee in bed and not befriend Ash at any cost ?

Lol.

[bloodyminded]

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Edited April 30, 2011 by bloodyminded

[Sandy MacNab]

Home is Calgary and clients are conservative. I know of very few who would deny a women the right to a medically necessary abortion.

[RNG]

Home is Calgary and clients are conservative. I know of very few who would deny a women the right to a medically necessary abortion.

This is discussed ad nauseum on an American forum I visit. The problem is in how one chooses to define "medically necessary".

[Molly]

This is discussed ad nauseum on an American forum I visit. The problem is in how one chooses to define "medically necessary".

And who 'one' is-- whether 'one' should have 'one's' opinion considered at all, unless 'one' is directly involved in the situation...

[Guest American Woman]

This is discussed ad nauseum on an American forum I visit. The problem is in how one chooses to define "medically necessary".

"Problem" for who? Who is having the "problem" defining it? The doctor involved? or people at large who have nothing to do with the specific situation and know even less about it?

[RNG]

"Problem" for who? Who is having the "problem" defining it? The doctor involved? or people at large who have nothing to do with the specific situation and know even less about it?

People at large and the politicians. Yet again a bad Rep/Dem ideological split, and yet again one in which logic and debate are out the window.

I get a kick out of the posters on this forum who say that minority governments should work, all we need is co-operation and compromise. I agree. But will we get it. Hell, no IMHO. We in Canada are getting as partisan as much of the US.