Scotty Posted April 19, 2011 Report Posted April 19, 2011 If that makes you feel better about spouting rubbish... And the shit you spout smells like honey... Quote It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
ToadBrother Posted April 19, 2011 Report Posted April 19, 2011 And the shit you spout smells like honey... I think that was my line. Quote
Scotty Posted April 19, 2011 Report Posted April 19, 2011 Because we have a parliamentary democracy. Majority governments are not a good thing. It amounts to tyranny in our system. Majorities get things done. It is the only advantage our FPTP system has over the endless expensive and time consuming deal-making and politicking of proportional rep. A new majority government can do what needs doing without fearing outcries, can take bold initiatives, and doesn't have to be constantly spouting money at every target group it wants to impress at election time. Quote It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
Scotty Posted April 19, 2011 Report Posted April 19, 2011 I think that was my line. Ironic, eh? Quote It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
ToadBrother Posted April 19, 2011 Report Posted April 19, 2011 Majorities get things done. It is the only advantage our FPTP system has over the endless expensive and time consuming deal-making and politicking of proportional rep. A new majority government can do what needs doing without fearing outcries, can take bold initiatives, and doesn't have to be constantly spouting money at every target group it wants to impress at election time. Which strikes me as an awfully good reason why we don't want one right now. Quote
ToadBrother Posted April 19, 2011 Report Posted April 19, 2011 Ironic, eh? No, just unimaginative on your part. Quote
Scotty Posted April 19, 2011 Report Posted April 19, 2011 That's fine for you to decide that for yourself, but A ) it doesn't make it correct (because it isn't) and B ) your point is completely irrelevant. I think everything I say is correct, otherwise I wouldn't SAY it! And while it might not be 'relevant' -- in what sense anyway -- I still think it's interesting that if you take away the losers who want out of Canada anyway, Harper would have a big majority. So it's just this group of foreigners, these 'quebecois' who are holding him back. Quote It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
Scotty Posted April 19, 2011 Report Posted April 19, 2011 No, just unimaginative on your part. I wasn't trying to be imaginative... buddy. I was using your words deliberately... buddy. Quote It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
ToadBrother Posted April 19, 2011 Report Posted April 19, 2011 I think everything I say is correct, otherwise I wouldn't SAY it! And while it might not be 'relevant' -- in what sense anyway -- I still think it's interesting that if you take away the losers who want out of Canada anyway, Harper would have a big majority. So it's just this group of foreigners, these 'quebecois' who are holding him back. In other words, what you've done is created the political version of the Bible Code. Quote
ToadBrother Posted April 19, 2011 Report Posted April 19, 2011 I wasn't trying to be imaginative... Probably better that you weren't. buddy. I was using your words deliberately... buddy. I'm so glad I made a retort easier for you. I always aim to help those of limited ability. Quote
cybercoma Posted April 19, 2011 Report Posted April 19, 2011 Scotty, the losers that want out of Canada account for roughly 1.4 million people. There roughly 6 million people in Quebec that are voting age. I'm not sure how good your math is, so I will just let you know, in short, that's not majority. Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted April 19, 2011 Report Posted April 19, 2011 (edited) I can't emphasize enough how much this point is actually a huge reason why my Conservative support is so strong right now. They found a way in a minority to stand up to the parties that lost. The constant complaining of "but you can't do that" only serves to make me like it more. Other minority governments have been timid and far too accommodating to the opposition. This one ruled like it had a majority anyway, it shows strength and leadership. "I don't care that you guys have more members in the house than I do, I'm the Prime Minister, and this is how it's going to be". That's balls, and that's what I want from my leader. Are you freaking kidding me? If you're a PM of a minority gov't, you should be well aware that most of the electoral ridings DID NOT vote for your party. That means you should respect what a minority parliament represents, meaning you must work with other party's in order to pass legislation and respect some of the demands of the other parties because they represent the majority of the electorate (in terms of ridings). There's a fine line between having "balls" and being an asshole. That line is about 4-inches long and is called a "taint". Harper has been break-dancing all over this taint for the last several years. And can somebody please give me a trophy or something because, yes, i did just successfully use the word "taint" in a political analogy. Edited April 19, 2011 by Moonlight Graham Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
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