Big Blue Machine Posted June 25, 2004 Report Posted June 25, 2004 I have nothing wrong with paying for my health care. I am in good health and I hardly go to the hospitial. Or the goverment could delist programs covered by the system, like abortions. O God, I'm in for it from you guys now. Quote And as I take man's last step from the surface, for now but we believe not too far into the future. I just like to say what I believe history will record that America's challenge on today has forged man's destiny of tomorrow. And as we leave the surface of Taurus-Littrow, we leave as we came and god willing we shall return with peace and hope for all mankind. Godspeed the crew of Apollo 17. Gene Cernan, the last man on the moon, December 1972.
Big Blue Machine Posted June 25, 2004 Author Report Posted June 25, 2004 The advantages are you get better service and you get things quicker. Quote And as I take man's last step from the surface, for now but we believe not too far into the future. I just like to say what I believe history will record that America's challenge on today has forged man's destiny of tomorrow. And as we leave the surface of Taurus-Littrow, we leave as we came and god willing we shall return with peace and hope for all mankind. Godspeed the crew of Apollo 17. Gene Cernan, the last man on the moon, December 1972.
August1991 Posted June 26, 2004 Report Posted June 26, 2004 Private health care? In Canada, there are two ways to see this. State health insurance (covering everyone) with private supply of services. (The State pays the bill, you choose your doctor and clinic.) State health sector. The government operates and manages all hospitals, clinics and employs all doctors and nurses. (This is also called 'not-for-profit'.) Which do you mean? Quote
Big Blue Machine Posted June 26, 2004 Author Report Posted June 26, 2004 Private as in you pay for your health care. August1991, isn't the second choice what we have in Canada already. Quote And as I take man's last step from the surface, for now but we believe not too far into the future. I just like to say what I believe history will record that America's challenge on today has forged man's destiny of tomorrow. And as we leave the surface of Taurus-Littrow, we leave as we came and god willing we shall return with peace and hope for all mankind. Godspeed the crew of Apollo 17. Gene Cernan, the last man on the moon, December 1972.
August1991 Posted June 26, 2004 Report Posted June 26, 2004 Private as in you pay for your health care. August1991, isn't the second choice what we have in Canada already. We all pay for health care. The Tories are in favour of public (state) insurance with private firms along with government organisations providing the service. That means everyone is covered and the bill is paid by the government (all taxpayers) but the service is provided by private business. The NDP wants all health services to be provided by government organized clinics and hospitals. (Not for profit which the NDP claim is cheaper.) The Liberals are not clear on thi sissue. Your suggestion that people pay for health services from their own pocket (as they buy food or shoes) is unrealistic. Even Americans don't buy health services this way. Health services and car accident repairs are all about insurance. Few if anyone self-insures. I bet even Bill Gates has health insurance. Why take the risk? IOW, to answer your point, everyone pays for their health care through an insurance scheme. Quote
Big Blue Machine Posted June 26, 2004 Author Report Posted June 26, 2004 Was wrong with public (state) insurance? It seems good. I wouldn't mind that. Quote And as I take man's last step from the surface, for now but we believe not too far into the future. I just like to say what I believe history will record that America's challenge on today has forged man's destiny of tomorrow. And as we leave the surface of Taurus-Littrow, we leave as we came and god willing we shall return with peace and hope for all mankind. Godspeed the crew of Apollo 17. Gene Cernan, the last man on the moon, December 1972.
Reverend Blair Posted June 26, 2004 Report Posted June 26, 2004 Because it won't stop there, Blue. That has to do with NAFTA and greed and kickbacks and thuggery. The Hell's Angels could learn a thing or two from corporate medicine. Live and learn, child. Don't do it at my expense though...I've already seen how organised crime works, I don't need the medical system shaking me down to prove the point. What is really being suggested by the Conservative/Alliance/Reform is an American system. Study after study has shown that to be more expensive than ours. Less fair too, but just concentrate on personal greed for now. It costs more. You have to pay. If we were to properly fund our system it would still be cheaper than then the US system. Mincing words would be silly at this point. We can find an alternative, but we won't find one if we keep looking at the US system. It's a system designed for greed-hogs...those who put money before people. That is not the way I see Canada. Quote
takeanumber Posted June 26, 2004 Report Posted June 26, 2004 What's wrong with being unselfish and saying that everybody deserves the same level of healthcare, regardless of socio-economic background? Quote
Goldie Posted June 26, 2004 Report Posted June 26, 2004 Hey Rev, First please don't talk down to Big Blue simply because he has more on the ball and seems to be able to discern truth from fabrication more readily than you. The Conservatives are not talking "an American stlye system", they are simply saying more delivery from private centers, clinics, whatever. People won't have to wait two years for surgery or 8-10 hours for stitches. Except those people that are only willing to go through the public system, good luck with that. Quote
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