Wilber Posted March 16, 2011 Report Posted March 16, 2011 Looks like we'll both be voting with a firm grip on our respective noses this TIME around, again, I'm thinking... Speaking for myself, they shouldn't count on it. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
GWiz Posted March 16, 2011 Report Posted March 16, 2011 Speaking for myself, they shouldn't count on it. Doubly good on you then... I respect anyone that informs themselves about real issues, regardless of which party they decide to vote for... In my case it really doesn't matter much... I'm in a riding where the Liberals and NDP split the vote and CON Joy Smith slides up the middle... Last Fed election I voted Green because Dion screwed up with a "drop in" candidate that failed to get her registration in on TIME so there was no Liberal candidate running... Anyway, all the best to you, it's always nice to meet someone that can think for themselves... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
Wilber Posted March 16, 2011 Report Posted March 16, 2011 I don't know. My wife is a long time conservative supporter and I know these adds really rub her the wrong way as well. Particularly the attack adds. I wonder how many others feel the same way. It's interesting that many of Harper's opponents point to him as a lackey of the Americans yet when it comes to manipulating the voter, he has no qualms about playing the anti American card himself. The more things change the more they remain the same. All I know is I have reached a point in my life where I will no longer vote against someone. No one can count on my vote just because I think someone else is worse. If I can't vote for someone, I will spoil my ballot first. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
ToadBrother Posted March 16, 2011 Report Posted March 16, 2011 Political parties using the public purse for political advertising has always really bugged me. I hated it when the Liberals did it and it probably bugs me even more when the party I supported does it. I guess I just hoped for a higher standard. I've often felt there should be an independent office of advertising which reviews ads put out by the Government and is empowered, where it is deemed the ads were in fact partisan, to bill the governing party... at a reasonable rate of interest. Quote
GWiz Posted March 16, 2011 Report Posted March 16, 2011 I've often felt there should be an independent office of advertising which reviews ads put out by the Government and is empowered, where it is deemed the ads were in fact partisan, to bill the governing party... at a reasonable rate of interest. I'll second that... As did ALL the Liberals (MPs and pundits) on Power and Politics... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
ToadBrother Posted March 16, 2011 Report Posted March 16, 2011 I'll second that... As did ALL the Liberals (MPs and pundits) on Power and Politics... The Opposition is always in favor until they're not the Opposition any more. Since using tax dollars for blatantly partisan purposes was hardly invented by the current Tory government, the blame goes back a loooong ways. Quote
GWiz Posted March 16, 2011 Report Posted March 16, 2011 The Opposition is always in favor until they're not the Opposition any more. Since using tax dollars for blatantly partisan purposes was hardly invented by the current Tory government, the blame goes back a loooong ways. OK, what say you, I, and everybody else hold "the Government of the Day", regardless of party, to that, say by asking that question in any upcoming debate, or whenever any of us have the chance to bring that question to the fore? I know I'll do that with the party I support, for whatever good that will do, as I've always held the party I support's feet to the fire on many, many issues... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
ToadBrother Posted March 16, 2011 Report Posted March 16, 2011 OK, what say you, I, and everybody else hold "the Government of the Day", regardless of party, to that, say by asking that question in any upcoming debate, or whenever any of us have the chance to bring that question to the fore? I have no problem with that. It's just that the pre-election Opposition cries of abuse of tax dollars for partisan advertising is a near constant, and has been for decades. Particularly as far as the Liberals and Tories go, it's a tiresome sort of hypocrisy, because neither party, when in Opposition, has even the slightest intent to curb the practice. I know I'll do that with the party I support, for whatever good that will do, as I've always held the party I support's feet to the fire on many, many issues... And how have you done that? By voting against them? Quote
GWiz Posted March 16, 2011 Report Posted March 16, 2011 I have no problem with that. It's just that the pre-election Opposition cries of abuse of tax dollars for partisan advertising is a near constant, and has been for decades. Particularly as far as the Liberals and Tories go, it's a tiresome sort of hypocrisy, because neither party, when in Opposition, has even the slightest intent to curb the practice. I don't know, maybe this TIME... "Whether you think you can or think you can't - you are right." And how have you done that? By voting against them? Well, depending on when (50 year period), I've done many things, and depending on WHO'S ear was listening to me, if at all... Currently, since I'm not a member of the party anymore, but still can't find anyone more worthy of my vote, I'll still cast my vote the same way, for whatever good that does considering the demographics of my riding... So to back up my "concerns" I do it with whether or not I contribute my TIME and money (both pretty valuable commodities btw) to a particular candidate, that I know well and respect for his work ethic, that has a better than average chance of becoming an MP, a fairly effective way to bring my "points" to the fore... Along with voicing my concerns via e-mail and snail mail to ALL party leaders and MP for my riding of course... Beyond that there's not a whole lot Joe Blow ordinary can do... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
Wilber Posted March 16, 2011 Report Posted March 16, 2011 The Opposition is always in favor until they're not the Opposition any more. Since using tax dollars for blatantly partisan purposes was hardly invented by the current Tory government, the blame goes back a loooong ways. True but the "look what the other guy did" excuse doesn't cut it on the playground and it shouldn't in poltics. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
ToadBrother Posted March 16, 2011 Report Posted March 16, 2011 True but the "look what the other guy did" excuse doesn't cut it on the playground and it shouldn't in poltics. It doesn't cut it, and yet every time election fever heats up, we get the same behavior from the Government of the day, and the same cries of foul from the Opposition of the day, and when they flip places, the sorry game begins again. Quote
GWiz Posted March 16, 2011 Report Posted March 16, 2011 It doesn't cut it, and yet every time election fever heats up, we get the same behavior from the Government of the day, and the same cries of foul from the Opposition of the day, and when they flip places, the sorry game begins again. Like I said, don't just complain about it, do something about it... "Your past is important, but it is not nearly as important to your present as is the way you see your future." - Dr. Tony Campolo Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
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