Alliance Fanatic Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 How is it that the NDP is always supportive of hate crime laws to give special protection to certain groups of society when they seem it fit to spread hatred against police officers. http://www.ndpsocialists.ca/ Yet these events, only tell a fraction of the story. Every day, police verbally and physically attack Aboriginals, immigrants, refugees, women, youth, queers, street workers, the homeless, the poor, anyone who they perceive does not have the power to fight back. They are creating lies about the men and women who risk their lives to make this country safe, and would probably be happy if more police were killed on the street. Should'nt they be charged with a hate crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falling leaf Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 hey are creating lies about the men and women who risk their lives to make this country safe, and would probably be happy if more police were killed on the street. Should'nt they be charged with a hate crime. Yes its NDP lies again :angry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bionic Antboy Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 How is it that the NDP is always supportive of hate crime laws to give special protection to certain groups of society when they seem it fit to spread hatred against police officers. http://www.ndpsocialists.ca/ Yet these events, only tell a fraction of the story. Every day, police verbally and physically attack Aboriginals, immigrants, refugees, women, youth, queers, street workers, the homeless, the poor, anyone who they perceive does not have the power to fight back. They are creating lies about the men and women who risk their lives to make this country safe, and would probably be happy if more police were killed on the street. Should'nt they be charged with a hate crime. ...and would probably be happy if more police were killed on the street. Right... that's got to be one of the lamest comments ever posted on this forum. Right up there with anyone who's compared ANY of the party leaders to Hitler... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGunner Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 I think that some of the most hardline conservative apologists are a little spooked when they see the NDP within 7 points of the conservatives in the SES poll. If the election were held and those numbers held up, the NDP could take 50 or more seats....given that Broadbent's NDP in 1988 took 43 with 20% of the vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idealisttotheend Posted June 19, 2004 Report Share Posted June 19, 2004 Right... that's got to be one of the lamest comments ever posted on this forum. Right up there with anyone who's compared ANY of the party leaders to Hitler... Or Stalin. I have never heard of this group before today and they don't seem to have a lot if any support on the Left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caesar Posted June 19, 2004 Report Share Posted June 19, 2004 You doubt that these things happen. Not all policemen nor judges are ALL perfect. These things are happening; it does not mean nor infer that ALL policemen act this way. We just sentenced a judge to 7 years for forcing young underage girls (mainly native) into having rough sex with him. They are police officers; not all of them are saints. We should speak out about these things happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted June 19, 2004 Report Share Posted June 19, 2004 You doubt that these things happen. Not all policemen nor judges are ALL perfect. These things are happening; it does not mean nor infer that ALL policemen act this way. What if I said "Every day, Black people are involved in burglaries, car theft, muggings, robberies, pimping, rape, drug dealing and murder all across Canada." Now then. The blunt truth is this is correct. Not all Black people are perfect. These things are happening. It does not mean nor infer that ALL Black people act this way. So are you saying you'd not have a problem with people writing the above? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caesar Posted June 19, 2004 Report Share Posted June 19, 2004 It would depend on the context it was written in. Government officials do have a responsibility to answer for the actions of government employees and to ensure abuses are dealt with. We are going backwards if we do not discuss problems because someone may interpret it as being racist. That is why I do not agree with hate laws. We should all be protected equally from crimes of hate. With special hate crime laws; we are hindered from talking freely about those members of the protected group that are committing abuses. If we try to put forward legitimate concerns about the actions of the Israeli government; many label us racist. Like in all groups there are good bad etc. It is the same when we criticize the actions of the American government; those who support the USA actions throw out the "anti American" label to attack our concerns. There is a difference between people and governments. Even though the people may support their governments. I do realize many are too trusting of their governments and believe the propaganda they are fed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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