Mr.Canada Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 I'd like to know who funds OCAP. If anyone nows who funds these urban terrorists please let me know. These people are constantly violently protesting, threatening people, inciting riots and promoting anarchy. If any of my tax dollars are funding this I want to know so I can take action. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Shwa Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 I'd like to know who funds OCAP. If anyone nows who funds these urban terrorists please let me know. These people are constantly violently protesting, threatening people, inciting riots and promoting anarchy. If any of my tax dollars are funding this I want to know so I can take action. Let me Google that for you... Or Wiki - OCAP#Funding FundingOCAP is funded through private donations and support from labour unions. At one time up to a third of their operating funds coming the Canadian Auto Workers, but the CAW cut most of its funding after the Flaherty action[clarification needed] (Shantz, 2009) and OCAP has since had to engage in raising funds from individuals in order to pay its organizers. Shortly after the CAW discontinued funding OCAP, Canadian Union of Public Employees local 3903, representing York University Teaching Assistants and contract faculty passed a motion to pay the monthly rent for the organization's office space. Strong connections between CUPE 3903 and OCAP were developed when 3903 members took part in a 78 day strike in the winter of 2000/2001. The strike was in defense of tuition indexation to wages and job security that had been challenged by the provincial Tory government. During this period 3903 members became increasingly active in solidarity initiatives with other workers in labour disputes, and with anti-poverty, global justice and anti-war activists re-invigorating politics of direct action. The attempt has been to draw connections between these movements in an anti-racist form of social movement unionism (Black, Simon J. 2005). So in a way, your tax dollars are going into funding OCAP. If I were you, I would take on CUPE. Let us know how that works out for you. Quote
Jack Weber Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 Let me Google that for you... Or Wiki - OCAP#Funding So in a way, your tax dollars are going into funding OCAP. If I were you, I would take on CUPE. Let us know how that works out for you. I'd like to see Mr.C go after Sid Ryan on Michael Coren's show for an hour... That would be fun...But probably not for Mr.C... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Shwa Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 I'd like to see Mr.C go after Sid Ryan on Michael Coren's show for an hour... That would be fun...But probably not for Mr.C... Gawd. Sid Ryan. Don't jinx it Jack, I live in bloody Durham! Quote
Jack Weber Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 Gawd. Sid Ryan. Don't jinx it Jack, I live in bloody Durham! You're already jinxed... Is'nt Slasher Jimmy your MP??? Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Shwa Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 You're already jinxed... Is'nt Slasher Jimmy your MP??? No, he lives in a posh, gated community next door in Whitby. Our MP is the very affable and somewhat invisible Dr. Colin 'Back Crackin' Carrie. Born in the Hammer dontchya know... Quote
Jack Weber Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 No, he lives in a posh, gated community next door in Whitby. Our MP is the very affable and somewhat invisible Dr. Colin 'Back Crackin' Carrie. Born in the Hammer dontchya know... No I did'nt... But if he's a Harper/Harris kinda guy,you can have him!!! Why am I not shocked that Slasher Jimmy lives in a gated community??? Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Shwa Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 No I did'nt... But if he's a Harper/Harris kinda guy,you can have him!!! Why am I not shocked that Slasher Jimmy lives in a gated community??? I think Carrie had ambitions to be PC back in the day, but then, well, you know what happened... but the local Libs were/are in such a disarray, the CPC was a default for anyone with any political ambition around here. Used to be NDP before Bob Rae... As for Flaherty, yeah, a real piece of work. "What?!? You don't know what a silver spoon is?" Quote
Mr.Canada Posted February 24, 2011 Author Report Posted February 24, 2011 The real issue is why these urban terrorists are allowed to continue with their program of anarchy. Why they are allowed to disrupt city council meetings without being arrested and barred from the building. When these people show up they expect council to be shut down. These are people who jump on desks, spit, bang on drums, curse and threaten people. I don't understand how this is helping their cause. Why not have a civilized discussion instead of resorting to black block tactics? I'm sure people would be receptive to their plight if they carried themselves better. As it is no one will listen to them because of the way they do things which is basically to terrorize people. Their leader John Clarke speaks of himself as being homeless. I'd like to know if actually is, somehow I doubt it, he's just a professional protester, nothing more. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Shwa Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 The real issue is why these urban terrorists are allowed to continue with their program of anarchy. Why they are allowed to disrupt city council meetings without being arrested and barred from the building. When these people show up they expect council to be shut down. These are people who jump on desks, spit, bang on drums, curse and threaten people. I don't understand how this is helping their cause. Why not have a civilized discussion instead of resorting to black block tactics? I'm sure people would be receptive to their plight if they carried themselves better. As it is no one will listen to them because of the way they do things which is basically to terrorize people. Their leader John Clarke speaks of himself as being homeless. I'd like to know if actually is, somehow I doubt it, he's just a professional protester, nothing more. The problem is... they are more or less the same as the urban hyperbolists who populate forums and cause threads to jump the shark. Case in point - calling OCAP "urban terrorists." Not only is this complete unabashed and clumsily written hyperbole, but it also denudes the seriousness from real "urban terrorists" in our country and abroad. I doubt anyone that has faced an OCAP "invasion" ash felt anything near the sort of terror that terrorists are aiming for. I do believe that some of OCAP's methods are over the top, but terror?? Gimme a break. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted February 24, 2011 Author Report Posted February 24, 2011 The problem is... they are more or less the same as the urban hyperbolists who populate forums and cause threads to jump the shark. Case in point - calling OCAP "urban terrorists." Not only is this complete unabashed and clumsily written hyperbole, but it also denudes the seriousness from real "urban terrorists" in our country and abroad. I doubt anyone that has faced an OCAP "invasion" ash felt anything near the sort of terror that terrorists are aiming for. I do believe that some of OCAP's methods are over the top, but terror?? Gimme a break. Last week at City Hall in Toronto OCAP members were yelling to "Kill the rich"! and if Rob Ford makes cuts that they were going to "get his ass"! A woman was screaming right in a councilors face and another was standing on a desk and yelling. Rob Ford rightly muttered for him to get a job. This is terrorizing people as people at City Hall were visibly scared. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Shwa Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 Last week at City Hall in Toronto OCAP members were yelling to "Kill the rich"! and if Rob Ford makes cuts that they were going to "get his ass"! A woman was screaming right in a councilors face and another was standing on a desk and yelling. Rob Ford rightly muttered for him to get a job. This is terrorizing people as people at City Hall were visibly scared. No, it's not terrorism, which has a legal definition and none of those OCAPers were charged with terrorism. Serious hyperbole. Give it a break will ya? Quote
Black Dog Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 The real issue is why these urban terrorists are allowed to continue with their program of anarchy. Why they are allowed to disrupt city council meetings without being arrested and barred from the building. When these people show up they expect council to be shut down. These are people who jump on desks, spit, bang on drums, curse and threaten people. I don't understand how this is helping their cause. Why not have a civilized discussion instead of resorting to black block tactics? I'm sure people would be receptive to their plight if they carried themselves better. As it is no one will listen to them because of the way they do things which is basically to terrorize people. Their leader John Clarke speaks of himself as being homeless. I'd like to know if actually is, somehow I doubt it, he's just a professional protester, nothing more. When jumping on desks, spitting, banging on drums, cursing and threatening people are equated with terrorism and anarchy, you know the pendulum has swung over into hyperbole. Now personally, I think these guys are dinks, but that's not to say their methods are invalid necessarily. Name one political movement that succeeded without forcibly disrupting the system they fought to change. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted February 24, 2011 Author Report Posted February 24, 2011 No, it's not terrorism, which has a legal definition and none of those OCAPers were charged with terrorism. Serious hyperbole. Give it a break will ya? When jumping on desks, spitting, banging on drums, cursing and threatening people are equated with terrorism and anarchy, you know the pendulum has swung over into hyperbole. Now personally, I think these guys are dinks, but that's not to say their methods are invalid necessarily. Name one political movement that succeeded without forcibly disrupting the system they fought to change. John Clarke was yelling "Anarchy! Anarchy!". He was trying to incite a riot, no doubt about it just as they did during the summer at Queens Park by throwing marbles at Police horses feet and hitting Police Horses. if a conservative group acted like this during Mayor Miller's reign the media would've called them fascists and Nazis for sure. Funny how the double standard exists. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Black Dog Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 John Clarke was yelling "Anarchy! Anarchy!". He was trying to incite a riot, no doubt about it just as they did during the summer at Queens Park by throwing marbles at Police horses feet and hitting Police Horses. if a conservative group acted like this during Mayor Miller's reign the media would've called them fascists and Nazis for sure. Funny how the double standard exists. Who in the media is cheering these guys on? Quote
Shwa Posted February 24, 2011 Report Posted February 24, 2011 John Clarke was yelling "Anarchy! Anarchy!". He was trying to incite a riot, no doubt about it just as they did during the summer at Queens Park by throwing marbles at Police horses feet and hitting Police Horses. if a conservative group acted like this during Mayor Miller's reign the media would've called them fascists and Nazis for sure. Funny how the double standard exists. So you are claiming double standard based on your own iffy postulation. And bringing in fascists and Nazis on top of the hysterial hyperbole of OCAP being "terrorists." Yep, this thread has jumped the shark alright. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted February 28, 2011 Author Report Posted February 28, 2011 So you are claiming double standard based on your own iffy postulation. And bringing in fascists and Nazis on top of the hysterial hyperbole of OCAP being "terrorists." Yep, this thread has jumped the shark alright. OCAp does nothing to help poor people. They make a mockery of them. Instead of engaging the city in a useful manner their only aim is to wreck havoc and get on TV. It's too bad. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Mr.Canada Posted March 4, 2011 Author Report Posted March 4, 2011 Where was OCAP when TCHC was stealing and mismanaging $41 million of the social housing money? Oh that's right, there are poor activists on the TCHC council so they cannot say anything bad now even in the face of a huge mismanagement. Paula Fletcher is also on that board. No surprise there. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
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