lukin Posted February 17, 2011 Report Posted February 17, 2011 Here is an excellent article (lengthy) that give intricate details of how crafty and powerful environmental groups are. They are out to make money, at the expense of the working class. Anyone ever heard of the World Wildlife Fund? Get a load of this. http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2010/03/amazongate-part-ii-seeing-redd.html Quote
Michael Hardner Posted February 17, 2011 Report Posted February 17, 2011 Is this Christopher Booker ? Seems like quite the crackpot, if so. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
lukin Posted February 17, 2011 Author Report Posted February 17, 2011 Is this Christopher Booker ? Seems like quite the crackpot, if so. Why not make a judgment AFTER reading the article? Quote
Michael Hardner Posted February 17, 2011 Report Posted February 17, 2011 Why not make a judgment AFTER reading the article? I read a few paragraphs. More alarmism - I couldn't trust the objectivity based on the breathless tone alone. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
waldo Posted February 17, 2011 Report Posted February 17, 2011 Is this Christopher Booker ? Seems like quite the crackpot, if so. whaaa! It's like shooting lukin fish in a barrel! lukin really likes to invest in tabloid "journalists", particularly the denier type... lukin's aversion to real science/scientists is well documented/understood. Anyone who wants to know how and why this debate got started need to read "The Real Global Warming Disaster" by Christopher Booker. yes, we’ve touched upon the failed denier "journalist" Booker several times in other MLW climate change related threads… usually in conjunction with his other British tabloid writing tag-team partner, Richard North – the Telegraph’s tandem-duo of denial journalism. You have a strong reliance on denier "journalists" – hey Lukin? In keeping with your focus, and in this particular British slant, rather than drudge up past MLW thread posts showing the lying, distorting scum that Booker is, let’s just read from another British journalist - Christopher Booker prize for falsehoods about global warming Quote
lukin Posted February 17, 2011 Author Report Posted February 17, 2011 (edited) whaaa! It's like shooting lukin fish in a barrel! lukin really likes to invest in tabloid "journalists", particularly the denier type... lukin's aversion to real science/scientists is well documented/understood. Waldo, dummy, the article explains how a do-gooder, supposed non-profit organization like the WWF stands to rake in billions through the carbon trading scheme. It has nothing to do with science. However, I predictited your response.....typical waldo. Tell me waldo, what in the article is false about the operations of the World Wildlife Fund? Answer a question for once instead of boring us with pages of useless block quotes. You ridicule Booker and then link an article written by George Moonbat. That is hilarious!!! It takes a pompous twit (waldo) to be able to relate to another pompous twit(Moonbat). Edited February 17, 2011 by lukin Quote
lukin Posted February 17, 2011 Author Report Posted February 17, 2011 I read a few paragraphs. More alarmism - I couldn't trust the objectivity based on the breathless tone alone. I think your comprehension skills are quite weak if that is what you thought. Quote
waldo Posted February 17, 2011 Report Posted February 17, 2011 :lol: hey buddy... that's a really dated article from Booker - do you have anything more recent, perhaps his meltdown reaction to world governments signing the recent Cancun COP16 agreements, particularly with respect to land use/deforestation - oh my! ...deforestation... re: Cancun COP16 agreements concerning land use and deforestation... perhaps you might like to comment on this press release from the UN-REDD Programme (Reducing Emissions from Deforestation and Forest Degradation (REDD)): The UN-REDD Programme, a collaborative initiative of the Food and Agriculture Organization of the UN (FAO), the UN Development Programme (UNDP) and the UN Environment Programme (UNEP), commends the great effort and political will shown at the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change 16th Conference of the Parties (UNFCCC COP16) in Cancun, Mexico, which has resulted in an agreement on Reducing Emissions from Deforestation and Forest Degradation and enhancement of forest carbon stocks in developing countries (REDD+).. . Tropical forests store more than half of all carbon found in terrestrial vegetation worldwide and contain at least two thirds of the world’s terrestrial biodiversity, making REDD+ a critical component in the global fight against climate change. The COP16 agreement on REDD+ is expected to revitalize and increase funding flows to support REDD+ readiness and invigorate donor pledges for REDD+ that now amount to close to US$5 billion for early actions until 2012. "REDD+ means that farmers and rural people in developing countries can now be compensated for the climate services they provide for us all, helping us to avoid dangerous climate change. We will need investments in sustainable agriculture both to reduce pressure on forest land and, primarily, to secure food for everyone. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted February 17, 2011 Report Posted February 17, 2011 I think your comprehension skills are quite weak if that is what you thought. You don't think it has an alarmist tone ? Do you know what an objective piece might read like ? Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
lukin Posted February 17, 2011 Author Report Posted February 17, 2011 You don't think it has an alarmist tone ? Do you know what an objective piece might read like ? So everything he mentions about the World Wildlife Fund, in your opinion, is wrong? Tell what is false. Quote
lukin Posted February 17, 2011 Author Report Posted February 17, 2011 hey buddy... that's a really dated article from Booker - do you have anything more recent, perhaps his meltdown reaction to world governments signing the recent Cancun COP16 agreements, particularly with respect to land use/deforestation - oh my! I see that you don't have the capacity to respond to the ACTUAL article. Typical waldo, just goes on what someone else has already said. Typical, typical, typical waldo......so typical. Maybe George Moonbat has another boxquote for you. The green lobby is powerful, I'll give you clowns that much. They have manipulated the masses and the media. They resort to name calling of anyone who disagrees with the "green agenda". Funding for alarmists $50 Billion Funding for skeptics $19 Million Reading waldo's constant barrage of mega-BS - nauseating Hey. Look at how fair Newsweek magazine is. http://www.newsweek.com/2007/08/13/the-truth-about-denial.html Waldo=Sharon Begley Quote
waldo Posted February 17, 2011 Report Posted February 17, 2011 I see that you don't have the capacity to respond to the ACTUAL article. whaaa! You mean the article you simply dropped a link to, ala the lukinWay™ Buddy, even if one were inclined to give your baseless, unfounded, denier tabloid "journalist" sourced, bullshit, the time of day... you never, repeat never, actually tee anything up for comment/challenge. You simply drop a "ta da" link and scurry away, expecting others to pour through your linked references. Of course, it's simply a reflection of your difficulty in articulating your own muddled, deeply confused, "thoughts"... besides, I provided you a link that supersedes your bullshit article - I trust you enjoyed realizing world governments signed off on the concept of paying compensation in lieu of deforestation practices. Oh my! Like I said, haven't you a more recent Booker meltdown spew in relation to the UNFCCC COP16 deforestation related agreements, hey? Quote
Michael Hardner Posted February 17, 2011 Report Posted February 17, 2011 So everything he mentions about the World Wildlife Fund, in your opinion, is wrong? Tell what is false. He mixes fact with opinion. I don't care to try to dissect them - he's clearly not writing objectively, why should I even try ? I wouldn't expect you to go to a Michael Moore movie either. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
lukin Posted February 17, 2011 Author Report Posted February 17, 2011 (edited) whaaa! You mean the article you simply dropped a link to, ala the lukinWay™ Buddy, even if one were inclined to give your baseless, unfounded, denier tabloid "journalist" sourced, bullshit, the time of day... you never, repeat never, actually tee anything up for comment/challenge. You simply drop a "ta da" link and scurry away, expecting others to pour through your linked references. Of course, it's simply a reflection of your difficulty in articulating your own muddled, deeply confused, "thoughts"... besides, I provided you a link that supersedes your bullshit article - I trust you enjoyed realizing world governments signed off on the concept of paying compensation in lieu of deforestation practices. Oh my! Like I said, haven't you a more recent Booker meltdown spew in relation to the UNFCCC COP16 deforestation related agreements, hey? You referring to your article by george moonbat?? Too funny waldo, too funny. The environmental movement doesn't like being exposed. That is why they have to do a hatchet job on anyone who proves the green agenda is one big cash grab. Waldo=Sharon Begley - experts at speaking out of their respective asses. :lol: Edited February 17, 2011 by lukin Quote
waldo Posted February 17, 2011 Report Posted February 17, 2011 lukin, buddy... here it is again, oh challenged one :lol: hey buddy... that's a really dated article from Booker - do you have anything more recent, perhaps his meltdown reaction to world governments signing the recent Cancun COP16 agreements, particularly with respect to land use/deforestation - oh my! ...deforestation... re: Cancun COP16 agreements concerning land use and deforestation... perhaps you might like to comment on this press release from the UN-REDD Programme (Reducing Emissions from Deforestation and Forest Degradation (REDD)): The UN-REDD Programme, a collaborative initiative of the Food and Agriculture Organization of the UN (FAO), the UN Development Programme (UNDP) and the UN Environment Programme (UNEP), commends the great effort and political will shown at the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change 16th Conference of the Parties (UNFCCC COP16) in Cancun, Mexico, which has resulted in an agreement on Reducing Emissions from Deforestation and Forest Degradation and enhancement of forest carbon stocks in developing countries (REDD+).. . Tropical forests store more than half of all carbon found in terrestrial vegetation worldwide and contain at least two thirds of the world’s terrestrial biodiversity, making REDD+ a critical component in the global fight against climate change. The COP16 agreement on REDD+ is expected to revitalize and increase funding flows to support REDD+ readiness and invigorate donor pledges for REDD+ that now amount to close to US$5 billion for early actions until 2012. "REDD+ means that farmers and rural people in developing countries can now be compensated for the climate services they provide for us all, helping us to avoid dangerous climate change. We will need investments in sustainable agriculture both to reduce pressure on forest land and, primarily, to secure food for everyone. like I said... besides, I provided you a link that supersedes your bullshit article - I trust you enjoyed realizing world governments signed off on the concept of paying compensation in lieu of deforestation practices. Oh my! Like I said, haven't you a more recent Booker meltdown spew in relation to the UNFCCC COP16 deforestation related agreements, hey? Quote
lukin Posted February 17, 2011 Author Report Posted February 17, 2011 lukin, buddy... here it is again, oh challenged one like I said... Bury your garbage by posting endless pages of block quotes. Waldo, the story of the lonesome loser...maybe spend less time forming block quotes and work on improving your social skills. Get a life buddy, or at least get out of the basement. You post a link to george Moonbat....give me a break. Here, read the writing of one of your kind. http://www.newsweek....out-denial.html Quote
waldo Posted February 17, 2011 Report Posted February 17, 2011 lil' buddy... don't burden yourself by detracting from your thread... from your lukinWay™ "ta da"... from the ramblings of denier tabloid "journalist" extraordinaire, Christopher Booker. Here, let me take care of that for you... again, enjoy, once again! ...deforestation... re: Cancun COP16 agreements concerning land use and deforestation... perhaps you might like to comment on this press release from the UN-REDD Programme (Reducing Emissions from Deforestation and Forest Degradation (REDD)): besides, I provided you a link that supersedes your bullshit article - I trust you enjoyed realizing world governments signed off on the concept of paying compensation in lieu of deforestation practices. Oh my! Like I said, haven't you a more recent Booker meltdown spew in relation to the UNFCCC COP16 deforestation related agreements, hey? Quote
lukin Posted February 18, 2011 Author Report Posted February 18, 2011 (edited) lil' buddy... don't burden yourself by detracting from your thread... from your lukinWay™ "ta da"... from the ramblings of denier tabloid "journalist" extraordinaire, Christopher Booker. Here, let me take care of that for you... again, enjoy, once again! REDD, WWF...Booker exposed them all. Do you have kids waldo? What else do you do with your life besides MLF? Do you have anything that resembles a life beyond this forum? Do you still live with your parents sucking on the teet? Must be, because anyone who spends the kind of time you do on this forum obviously doesn't have much of a life. What a pity. You've been an outcast throughout life, and the only way you can save some face is to come on here hiding behind your monitor pretending to be intelligent. You represent the classic case of the classical loser. This forum is your life, and no more pathetic could it ever be for you. I pity you. I really do feel sorry for you. You're the kind of person who has just been kicked around all his life because you are awkward in all social situations. But behind the monitor you become a new person, brave, unafraid, a champ of the internet. anyone with one psychology course can spot people like you in a heartbeat. You try to hide your insecurities but then, it becomes too obvious that you are most insecure...in a way deranged...demented,.. a champion of block quotes, because that is all that boosts your lowly self-esteem. I post links to articles for people to read..and decide on THEIR own what they think about the article. Yet, every time a post an article you pop out 2 minutes later posting your generic copycat critique without ever actually READING an article. You have a hard time letting others read to form their own opinion. You want to shove your BS down everyone's throat...and often do so with insecure ignorance. enjoy your pathetic existence. Edited February 18, 2011 by lukin Quote
waldo Posted February 18, 2011 Report Posted February 18, 2011 lil' buddy... don't burden yourself by detracting from your thread... from your lukinWay™ "ta da"... from the ramblings of denier tabloid "journalist" extraordinaire, Christopher Booker. Here, let me take care of that for you... again, enjoy, once again! ...deforestation... re: Cancun COP16 agreements concerning land use and deforestation... perhaps you might like to comment on this press release from the UN-REDD Programme (Reducing Emissions from Deforestation and Forest Degradation (REDD)): besides, I provided you a link that supersedes your bullshit article - I trust you enjoyed realizing world governments signed off on the concept of paying compensation in lieu of deforestation practices. Oh my! Like I said, haven't you a more recent Booker meltdown spew in relation to the UNFCCC COP16 deforestation related agreements, hey? REDD, WWF...Booker exposed them all. wassup! It would seem that denier tabloid "journalist" & bullshit artist, Christopher Booker, didn't sway any of the full complement of world governments that signed the Cancun COP16 agreements concerning land use/deforestation - go figure! If only your personal denying crusading self could have been on the case sooner I post links to articles for people to read..and decide on THEIR own what they think about the article. no... you drop blind links without offering any comment and/or quotations from your referenced articles. You expect people to weed through lengthy articles and respond... but to what? Oh wait... I stand corrected... you do offer up the occasional 'great article' or 'must read' grunts. You're so afraid to actually state anything specific... to quote anything in particular... anything you'd actually have to back up with support... anything you'd have to substantiate. Clearly, your fright stems from your failings in comprehension and your complete inability to articulate even the most basic thoughts/conversation. You're nothing but a blowhard... a blowhard without anything to say... a blowhard, ala the lukinWay™! Quote
bloodyminded Posted February 20, 2011 Report Posted February 20, 2011 REDD, WWF...Booker exposed them all. Do you have kids waldo? What else do you do with your life besides MLF? Do you have anything that resembles a life beyond this forum? Do you still live with your parents sucking on the teet? Must be, because anyone who spends the kind of time you do on this forum obviously doesn't have much of a life. What a pity. You've been an outcast throughout life, and the only way you can save some face is to come on here hiding behind your monitor pretending to be intelligent. You represent the classic case of the classical loser. This forum is your life, and no more pathetic could it ever be for you. I pity you. I really do feel sorry for you. You're the kind of person who has just been kicked around all his life because you are awkward in all social situations. But behind the monitor you become a new person, brave, unafraid, a champ of the internet. anyone with one psychology course can spot people like you in a heartbeat. You try to hide your insecurities but then, it becomes too obvious that you are most insecure...in a way deranged...demented,.. a champion of block quotes, because that is all that boosts your lowly self-esteem. ???? What the heck? Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
wyly Posted February 21, 2011 Report Posted February 21, 2011 Is this Christopher Booker ? Seems like quite the crackpot, if so. yup the average high school science whizz could shred bookers scientific ramblings...it tabloid journalism... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
wyly Posted February 21, 2011 Report Posted February 21, 2011 (edited) ???? What the heck? be careful bloody or he'll stalk you from thread to thread Edited February 21, 2011 by wyly Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
lukin Posted February 21, 2011 Author Report Posted February 21, 2011 be careful bloody or he'll stalk you from thread to thread Mirimar.... Go away. Quote
ToadBrother Posted February 21, 2011 Report Posted February 21, 2011 yup the average high school science whizz could shred bookers scientific ramblings...it tabloid journalism... Booker is a dishonest moron. This is the guy that insisted that asbestos wasn't dangerous, even after it became clear that he actually had no idea what asbestos was. Fans of Booker, to my mind, are halfwits by definition. The Telegraph still gives the guy space, for some reason, perhaps out of editorial guilt. Quote
lukin Posted February 21, 2011 Author Report Posted February 21, 2011 I see that no one who has commented here has actually read the article I posted....how typical. The article is about the World wildlife Fund and how they bitch about corporations, yet they stand to profit billions through the carbon trading scam. WWF's ceo in the US gets paid almost half a million dollars. When it comes to Booker, I guess we have to believe the the smear campaign of the the fine folks at Greenpace. That's all wyldo does, just repeat what some eco-fascist has already said. Wyldo's ignorance is laughable. Quote
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