lukin Posted January 7, 2011 Report Posted January 7, 2011 Linking to an entire website and saying "read this" ? That's not just trolling, it's lazy trolling... Don't be so lazy Mike. Read it, then comment. Plenty of good info from that site. Enrich yourself. Quote
lukin Posted January 7, 2011 Report Posted January 7, 2011 it is the way of the lukin - the lukinWay™ Copy and pasters, like wadlo, get lost in thought because it is unfamilir territory. Quote
waldo Posted January 7, 2011 Report Posted January 7, 2011 Read the great information from this website.Let me guess, waldo's next post will have the word"denier" in it. http://climatescienceamerica.org/ Linking to an entire website and saying "read this" ? That's not just trolling, it's lazy trolling... a brief indulgence to the lukinWay™... the indirectly referenced paper is from retired 'space physicist' Syun-Ichi Akasofu, who appears to have done some admirable work in his early career... now having gone 'off the reservation' as relates to climate change study/analysis. It appears his only related publishing on climate change reflects upon an earlier 2008 draft publication titled, "Is the Earth still recovering from the Little Ice Age"... which begat the 2009 webcommentary "Two Natural Components of the Recent Climate Change"... which led to the published acceptance of the linked lukinWay™ blog reference to the Nov, 2010 publication of, "On the recovery from the Little Ice Age". Hey who said skeptic papers never get published? from a first skim of the paper it appears Akasofu presumes to attribute recent warming to an ongoing continued recovery from the Little Ice Age coupled with oceanic oscillations... neither of which has any merit within published consensus science. As is the way within the scientific community, if warranted, peer response will follow this just released publication... ala the trolling, lazy trolling lukinWay™, the following appears to be one of the first blog retorts to the lukinWay™ blog reference - part 1, part 2, part 3... a bit pressed for time today - if lukin persists (i.e., if he actually can muster the wherewithal to articulate his thoughts (?) concerning his linked reference papers arguments), we can have some fun later. C'mon lukin... step up beyond the lukinWay™... Quote
waldo Posted January 7, 2011 Report Posted January 7, 2011 Don't be so lazy Mike. Read it, then comment. Plenty of good info from that site. Enrich yourself. whaaa! Bloody hell... so says the guy who repeatedly, ongoing, continuously, over and over again, drops blind links without any comment... and then has the balls to chastise someone for any cut/paste that shoots his limp-wristed lukinWay™ bullshit down. Quote
waldo Posted January 7, 2011 Report Posted January 7, 2011 hmmmm... wrong? That would be..... where?- deepest solar minimum in a century ✓ - statement on formal NASA news/press release ✓ - statement on formal NOAA news/press release ✓ How can NASA's 130 year old data be valid when NASA has only existed since 1958? What data are they using? what? Someone else also googly challenged? - surface temperature record ala GHCN (1880-11/2010) - sea-surface temperature record ala HadISST1 (1880-11/1981) & Reynolds v2 (12/1981-11/2010) Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 7, 2011 Report Posted January 7, 2011 Don't be so lazy Mike. Read it, then comment. Plenty of good info from that site. Enrich yourself. Is that how you were brainwashed ? I prefer to debate rather than to passively absorb denier propaganda. I don't know if that site is that, but it seems like is. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
WIP Posted January 7, 2011 Report Posted January 7, 2011 and what happened to stephan dion when he wanted a carbon tax? That was a sad day for politics in this country, in my opinion. Sure, Stephan Dion never learned how to speak English properly, but here was probably the last time you'll ever see a Canadian leader deliberately fly in the face of what's popular to do what needs to be done.....now, we got Iggy, so everyone's on the cap and trade bandwagon. Quote Anybody who believers exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist. -- Kenneth Boulding, 1973
WIP Posted January 7, 2011 Report Posted January 7, 2011 cap n trade is the easier sell, what happens to politicians election hopes when they ask for a new tax?... Cap n trade is the easy sell because there are so many people lined up who think they can make money off of it! We always hear from the right wing that 'you get less of what you tax, and more of what you subsidize', or at least they like to pull that one out when they're talking about welfare or other social programs for the poor; so why doesn't it work for carbon emissions also? Tax carbon, and there should be a strong incentive to move away from developing more tar sands, and seeking out energy sources that have less of a carbon tax burden. And, we can't forget all of the leverage that was applied by the oil lobby to further confuse the public when a carbon tax was proposed. Dion's carbon tax proposal was to be revenue neutral, or at least near neutral, so the blather about over-taxation was a red herring right from the start. Considering the power and wealth of the oil companies, and their saturation of the media, I'm not sure whether any real action on climate will ever be taken by a Canadian or American government. Quote Anybody who believers exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist. -- Kenneth Boulding, 1973
lukin Posted January 7, 2011 Report Posted January 7, 2011 whaaa! Bloody hell... so says the guy who repeatedly, ongoing, continuously, over and over again, drops blind links without any comment... and then has the balls to chastise someone for any cut/paste that shoots his limp-wristed lukinWay™ bullshit down. Waldo, I was just wondering if your lips move when you type? Quote
waldo Posted January 8, 2011 Report Posted January 8, 2011 Don't be so lazy Mike. Read it, then comment. Plenty of good info from that site. Enrich yourself. Is that how you were brainwashed ? I prefer to debate rather than to passively absorb denier propaganda. I don't know if that site is that, but it seems like is. whaaa! Bloody hell... so says the guy who repeatedly, ongoing, continuously, over and over again, drops blind links without any comment... and then has the balls to chastise someone for any cut/paste that shoots his limp-wristed lukinWay™ bullshit down. Waldo, I was just wondering if your lips move when you type? huh! Say what... c'mon buddy, step up... step up, reach out... extend yourself - be all you can be. Unleash yourself from the constraints/habits/tendencies of the lukinWay™ Linking to an entire website and saying "read this" ? That's not just trolling, it's lazy trolling... it is the way of the lukin - the lukinWay™ if lukin persists (i.e., if he actually can muster the wherewithal to articulate his thoughts (?) concerning his linked reference papers arguments), we can have some fun later. C'mon lukin... step up beyond the lukinWay™... Quote
waldo Posted January 8, 2011 Report Posted January 8, 2011 (edited) Read the great information from this website.Let me guess, waldo's next post will have the word"denier" in it. http://climatescienceamerica.org/ Linking to an entire website and saying "read this" ? That's not just trolling, it's lazy trolling... a brief indulgence to the lukinWay™... the indirectly referenced paper is from retired 'space physicist' Syun-Ichi Akasofu, who appears to have done some admirable work in his early career... now having gone 'off the reservation' as relates to climate change study/analysis. It appears his only related publishing on climate change reflects upon an earlier 2008 draft publication titled, "Is the Earth still recovering from the Little Ice Age"... which begat the 2009 webcommentary "Two Natural Components of the Recent Climate Change"... which led to the published acceptance of the linked lukinWay™ blog reference to the Nov, 2010 publication of, "On the recovery from the Little Ice Age". Hey who said skeptic papers never get published? from a first skim of the paper it appears Akasofu presumes to attribute recent warming to an ongoing continued recovery from the Little Ice Age coupled with oceanic oscillations... neither of which has any merit within published consensus science. As is the way within the scientific community, if warranted, peer response will follow this just released publication... ala the trolling, lazy trolling lukinWay™, the following appears to be one of the first blog retorts to the lukinWay™ blog reference - part 1, part 2, part 3... a bit pressed for time today - if lukin persists (i.e., if he actually can muster the wherewithal to articulate his thoughts (?) concerning his linked reference papers arguments), we can have some fun later. C'mon lukin... step up beyond the lukinWay™... re: the lukinWay™ linked blog references the SI Akasofu paper as published in the 'SCIRP Journal - Natural Science'... I hadn't heard of the journal or referenced it previously. As it turns out, there is considerable controversy raised over the legitimacy of the grouping of "academic" journals associated with the new startup SCIRP... most of the journals are less than a year old and many haven't published anything at all. - a wiki reference to SCIRP: here - Naturenews article: here - blog article referencing SCIRP journals - "Strange Academic Journals - Scam"?: here yes, there are scientific journals... and then there are... scientific journals! (on edit: sp) Edited January 8, 2011 by waldo Quote
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