Saipan Posted October 13, 2010 Report Posted October 13, 2010 Do you live in Caledonia? Who'd want to? Quote
Wild Bill Posted October 13, 2010 Report Posted October 13, 2010 Who'd want to? Exactly! And Fantino is one of the reasons WHY! Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
Molly Posted October 13, 2010 Report Posted October 13, 2010 (edited) Its Vaughan, and that means that Fantino does have a chance. I wish it werent true but I can see him getting in, Lib stronghold or not. My wish is he gets buried in a smear campaign. But damn if he doesnt have connections that can hurt an opponent. Yup. And... what Argus said. (Bill, too.) Edited October 13, 2010 by Molly Quote "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!" — L. Frank Baum "For Conservatives, ministerial responsibility seems to be a temporary and constantly shifting phenomenon," -- Goodale
Saipan Posted October 13, 2010 Report Posted October 13, 2010 Exactly! And Fantino is one of the reasons WHY! No, the indians are. Quote
charter.rights Posted October 13, 2010 Report Posted October 13, 2010 Cam Wooley is a Conservative. There was talk of him running provincially for the PCs. The provincial Progressive Conservatives are closer in ideology to the federal Liberals than they are to the Conservative Party of Canada. Cam Wooley would make a fine Liberal candidate. Quote “Safeguarding the rights of others is the most noble and beautiful end of a human being.” Kahlil Gibran “Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.” Albert Einstein
bloodyminded Posted October 13, 2010 Report Posted October 13, 2010 I see he's against the gun registry so presumably he's a libertarian, but I suppose that doesn't really answer my question does it? Not even a little. Libertarians are--strangely--notoriously supportive of tremendous, unaccountable Power in the hands of a tiny minority. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
bloodyminded Posted October 13, 2010 Report Posted October 13, 2010 Jack Layton told you that? Jack Layton told you what? Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Saipan Posted October 13, 2010 Report Posted October 13, 2010 Jack Layton told you what? I don't talk to him. Quote
bloodyminded Posted October 13, 2010 Report Posted October 13, 2010 I don't talk to him. I'm sure he's quite broken up about it. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
madmax Posted October 13, 2010 Report Posted October 13, 2010 No doubt he'll be running in the riding of Haldimand-Norfolk, which contains the city of Caledonia. As soon as I read this I had tears in my eyes... On another note.... Argus, Guyser and Wild Bill all on the same page (And Argus in his traditional Blunt form take no prisoners pit bull style) .. Marxist Lennonist, or NDP LOL.... Snowflake/hell Sorry guys, er.....m but Saipans comments supporting Fantino are very persausive and I just can't envision hell freezing over... If you three Guys would be open and honest and tell me what u really think, without all the sugar coating, I might buy into it .... Quote
Saipan Posted October 13, 2010 Report Posted October 13, 2010 If you three Guys would be open and honest and tell me what u really think, without all the sugar coating, I might buy into it .... Can't tell you that. You may try to skip the country. Quote
nicky10013 Posted October 13, 2010 Report Posted October 13, 2010 The provincial Progressive Conservatives are closer in ideology to the federal Liberals than they are to the Conservative Party of Canada. Cam Wooley would make a fine Liberal candidate. Not anymore. Hudak and the current bunch of PCers are ideologically wed to the CPC. Quote
nicky10013 Posted October 13, 2010 Report Posted October 13, 2010 They all have reasons, just like drug addicts. Which is the same. I wonder how you would react to post traumatic stress caused by witnessing a genocide and not being able to stop it. Quote
Saipan Posted October 13, 2010 Report Posted October 13, 2010 I wonder how you would react to post traumatic stress caused by witnessing a genocide and not being able to stop it. Just like I'm now. I've seen the concentration camps right after the war. It's why I will ALWAYS support Israel. And make sure the next generation will too. Quote
nicky10013 Posted October 13, 2010 Report Posted October 13, 2010 Just like I'm now. I've seen the concentration camps right after the war. It's why I will ALWAYS support Israel. And make sure the next generation will too. I've seen the concentration camps, too. Seeing the camps afterword compared to when it actually happened are quite different. Furthermore, no matter who uses it, I don't think using the holocaust as an excuse for human rights abuses is the right way to go. It's downright appauling, in fact. Quote
Saipan Posted October 13, 2010 Report Posted October 13, 2010 I've seen the concentration camps, too. How did the bodies smell to you? You fought along partizans or allies? I don't think using the holocaust as an excuse for human rights abuses is the right way to go. Then don't do it. Quote
madmax Posted October 14, 2010 Report Posted October 14, 2010 Can't tell you that. You may try to skip the country. LOL... If I can't argue with Argus, Guyser and WildBill on a issue I may have to leave.... I don't think Fantino has a snowballs chance to win in any riding other then a Conservative stronghold where a manneqin could win if someone put a blue jacket on it. Quote
Wild Bill Posted October 14, 2010 Report Posted October 14, 2010 LOL... If I can't argue with Argus, Guyser and WildBill on a issue I may have to leave.... I don't think Fantino has a snowballs chance to win in any riding other then a Conservative stronghold where a manneqin could win if someone put a blue jacket on it. You know Max, backing Fantino would seem to indicate that Harper and his boys don't see any Caledonia baggage. At least, not enough to matter outside of the Caledonia area. They may be right. As a people we Canadians never seem to care about our fellow citizens outside our immediate area. Or it may be another example of how everything is run from Calgary, where almost no one has any clue about what's happening in the East. Back in the Reform days when I was a local riding director we used to bang our heads against the wall in frustration over Calgary HQ insisting on being a backseat driver who doesn't know the route! Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
Saipan Posted October 15, 2010 Report Posted October 15, 2010 As a people we Canadians never seem to care about our fellow citizens outside our immediate area. And long gun registration is the evidence. Some folks (spec. in cities) enjoy to screw other Canadians - even without benefit to themself - just for the spite. Quote
Molly Posted October 15, 2010 Report Posted October 15, 2010 Or it may be another example of how everything is run from Calgary, where almost no one has any clue about what's happening in the East. Back in the Reform days when I was a local riding director we used to bang our heads against the wall in frustration over Calgary HQ insisting on being a backseat driver who doesn't know the route! Reminds me of the dealing with the experts from Ontario who would be sent out to help us. I feel your pain. Quote "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!" — L. Frank Baum "For Conservatives, ministerial responsibility seems to be a temporary and constantly shifting phenomenon," -- Goodale
capricorn Posted October 15, 2010 Report Posted October 15, 2010 You know Max, backing Fantino would seem to indicate that Harper and his boys don't see any Caledonia baggage. At least, not enough to matter outside of the Caledonia area. They may be right. As a people we Canadians never seem to care about our fellow citizens outside our immediate area. Bill, my perception of Fantino when the Caledonia situation erupted is that he was dancing to McGuinty's tune. Why else would Fantino not apply law and order in Caledonia unless he was ordered to desist? Or it may be another example of how everything is run from Calgary, where almost no one has any clue about what's happening in the East. Maybe. Or, is it simply that Harper is looking for a yes man and would use Fantino as some kind of bauble to press his law and order agenda forward? Anyway, I have never heard one good thing said about Fantino. So I am not impressed by Harper's decision to recruit Fantino. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Saipan Posted October 16, 2010 Report Posted October 16, 2010 I have never heard one good thing said about Fantino. Toronto's criminals have the same opinion. They hate his guts. Quote
Wild Bill Posted October 16, 2010 Report Posted October 16, 2010 Toronto's criminals have the same opinion. They hate his guts. So? Caledonia's criminals love him! The man seems to be willing to pick and choose who is under the law and who isn't. Likely in Caledonia he was doing what McGuinty told him. To me, that is even more reason not to respect him! He played a numbers game! He obviously felt it was worth throwing a small number of citizens to the wolves to prevent a large scale escalation that the province was not willing to handle! He seems to think that this approach was a success. I guess it depends on your philosophy of governance. Some of us think that EVERY citizen is entitled to the protection of the law, even if that means you must go to extraordinary lengths to protect that right! Fantino seems to believe that the right to protection of the law is a mere expedient. I despise his attitude! I've lost some respect for the CPC for even adopting him! Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
Saipan Posted October 16, 2010 Report Posted October 16, 2010 So? Caledonia's criminals love him! They prefer to be called the FIRST Nation(s) - like the European skinheads chasing secondcomers. Likely in Caledonia he was doing what McGuinty told him. To me, that is even more reason not to respect him! Police doing what the government tell 'em. How dare they! Gun registration liberal hoplophobes believe the police should tell the government what to do - like any proper police state. Unless it's not serving the Liberal hidden agenda. He played a numbers game! He obviously felt it was worth throwing a small number of citizens to the wolves Like I said, they much prefer to be called the FIRST Nation(s) The only thing they want from Canada is the money. And health care. And food. And can openers....... Quote
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