bill_barilko Posted September 23, 2010 Report Posted September 23, 2010 The end of an era in Colombia with the death of this notorious ratbag murderer trafficker who died cowering in the jungle like the rat we all knew he was Colombian army kills top Farc rebel leader Mono Jojoy One of the most senior leaders of the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (Farc) has been killed, say reports. Jorge Briceno, also known as Mono Jojoy, died in a military air strike in the Macarena region, known to be a Farc stronghold, local media said. President Jose Manuel Santos said Jojoy's death was "the hardest blow" in the history of the rebel movement. The Marxist Farc rebels have been fighting the Colombian authorities since the mid-1960s. Jojoy was believed to be leader of the Farc's strongest fighting division, the Eastern Bloc, and had eluded Colombian security forces for almost 10 years. The United States had offered a reward of up to $5m (£3.2m) for information leading to his arrest or conviction. "A military source has confirmed that it defeated a group of rebels during an operation involving the four branches of the military," Colombia's attorney general Guillermo Mendoza said in a radio interview. He said soldiers had found the body of Jojoy. Another 20 rebels were also killed in the attack, an official at the defence ministry told the AFP news agency. Violent month The BBC's Jeremy McDermott in Bogota says Jojoy's death will be a major coup for Colombia's new President Juan Manuel Santos. It also leaves the Eastern Bloc without a leader, which is likely to seriously affect rebel morale, says our correspondent. The rebels have said they are prepared to find a political solution to the conflict, and have appealed to Mr Santos to enter talks. But they have stepped up their violent campaign since Mr Santos took office on 7 August, killing more than 40 security personnel in the past month. Mr Santos has said the rebels must give up their arms and release all the hostages they are holding before talks can take place. It comes a few days after another guerrilla Farc commander, Sixto Cabana, was shot dead along with 27 other rebels close to the border with Ecuador. The US State Department said Mr Cabana has been behind the export of hundreds of tons of cocaine around the world and was responsible for Quote
eyeball Posted September 23, 2010 Report Posted September 23, 2010 Colombia Rejoices-Narco Gangster Scum Eliminated the noose tightens...... I guess Colombia has never heard of the game whack-a-mole. You can be quite certain the rejoicing will be short lived but the game will continue. The next mole will probably be even more ruthless. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bill_barilko Posted September 23, 2010 Author Report Posted September 23, 2010 I guess Colombia has never heard of the game whack-a-mole. You can be quite certain the rejoicing will be short lived but the game will continue. The next mole will probably be even more ruthless. The next mole is already in place but will have fewer resources to draw on. Yes it's an ongoing situation and as this gang-which once had thousands and thousands of members- is whittled down finding and stamping out smaller and smaller groups of bandits will be time consuming and expensive. There is no alternative though-they must surrender or die. One particularly successful part of the Govt strategy is paying turncoats for information-even simple things like caches of gasoline-have a price attached. People will sell their own Mothers for money-in that these former leftist traffickers are no different from anyone else. Quote
eyeball Posted September 23, 2010 Report Posted September 23, 2010 The next mole is already in place but will have fewer resources to draw on. Yes it's an ongoing situation and as this gang-which once had thousands and thousands of members- is whittled down finding and stamping out smaller and smaller groups of bandits will be time consuming and expensive. There is no alternative though-they must surrender or die. Of course there is an alternative, the US should either legalize dope or round up and lock up every US citizen who uses dope. Supply side drug management is impossible. One particularly successful part of the Govt strategy is paying turncoats for information-even simple things like caches of gasoline-have a price attached.People will sell their own Mothers for money-in that these former leftist traffickers are no different from anyone else. Recall how the US government sold out its principles when it dealt with rightist traffickers. This electronic briefing book is compiled from declassified documents obtained by the National Security Archive, including the notebooks kept by NSC aide and Iran-contra figure Oliver North, electronic mail messages written by high-ranking Reagan administration officials, memos detailing the contra war effort, and FBI and DEA reports. The documents demonstrate official knowledge of drug operations, and collaboration with and protection of known drug traffickers. Court and hearing transcripts are also included. Source I think it's fair to say rightist drug war warriors are probably the most venal and corrupt hypocrites the planet has or likely ever will see, especially American ones. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_drug_trafficking Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bill_barilko Posted September 23, 2010 Author Report Posted September 23, 2010 His euro-whore caught a bullet as well Dutch FARC woman probably killed in Colombia It is being reported that Tanja Nijmeijer, a Dutch member of Colombia’s FARC rebel movement, has been killed. Radio Netherlands Worldwide learned of her likely death from sources in Colombia. She is thought to have joined the FARC in 2002. It is reported she was among 20 to 30 FARC rebels killed in a Colombian army operation. Colombia’s President Juan Manuel Santos has confirmed that the FARC’s military leader in the east of the country, Jorge Briceño, known as Mono Jojoy, also died in the attack. Ms Nijmeijer had been working as Jojoy’s personal assistant for the last few months. Colombian government forces recently launched an offensive against the FARC. Last week, at least 27 rebels were killed in an army raid on a FARC camp. Another rebel commander died in the operation. On Monday, 44 people were arrested on suspicion of supplying the rebels with weapons. Quote
bloodyminded Posted September 26, 2010 Report Posted September 26, 2010 The next mole is already in place but will have fewer resources to draw on. Yes it's an ongoing situation and as this gang-which once had thousands and thousands of members- is whittled down finding and stamping out smaller and smaller groups of bandits will be time consuming and expensive. There is no alternative though-they must surrender or die. One particularly successful part of the Govt strategy is paying turncoats for information-even simple things like caches of gasoline-have a price attached. People will sell their own Mothers for money-in that these former leftist traffickers are no different from anyone else. True, they're certainly no different from the Colombian military and its paramilitary allies; who have murdered more innocent people (usually with crude attempts at cover-ups) than FARC has managed to do in its ignominious career. Colombia is the worst human rights violator in Latin America. I can't imagine why anyone would defend the regime.... ...oh, wait. I know exactly why. It's spelled A-L-L-Y. A synonym for rightness and morality. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
bill_barilko Posted September 27, 2010 Author Report Posted September 27, 2010 True, they're certainly no different from the Colombian military and its paramilitary allies; who have murdered more innocent people (usually with crude attempts at cover-ups) than FARC has managed to do in its ignominious career. Colombia is the worst human rights violator in Latin America. I can't imagine why anyone would defend the regime.... ...oh, wait. I know exactly why. It's spelled A-L-L-Y. A synonym for rightness and morality. Abject cluelessness and ideological mental straightjacket noted. Quote
bloodyminded Posted September 27, 2010 Report Posted September 27, 2010 Abject cluelessness and ideological mental straightjacket noted. Perhaps you could be a little more specific about what constitutes my "cluelessness." Unless, of course, you have nothing to dispute, since you're ignorant of the facts? A possibility to consider. As for my "ideological mental straightjacket"--yes, it's true that I found much of my information on Colombia's wanton human rights abuses from that paragon of radical leftist ideology: the US State Department's official index on countries. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
bill_barilko Posted September 28, 2010 Author Report Posted September 28, 2010 Perhaps you could be a little more specific about what constitutes my "cluelessness." Unless, of course, you have nothing to dispute, since you're ignorant of the facts? A possibility to consider. As for my "ideological mental straightjacket"--yes, it's true that I found much of my information on Colombia's wanton human rights abuses from that paragon of radical leftist ideology: the US State Department's official index on countries. Not speaking the language and never having been near the country in question constitute cluelessness forty (40) ways to Sunday. Quote
bloodyminded Posted September 28, 2010 Report Posted September 28, 2010 Not speaking the language and never having been near the country in question constitute cluelessness forty (40) ways to Sunday. Wow. So you offer no opinions on any country you've never visited, and for which you're unfamiliar with the language? Really? And so of course you will post remonstrations against others--say, those who share political opinions similar to your own--when they write anything about Iraq, Israel, Haiti, France, Greece, and so on? And you don't think, I suppose, that you might get called out on the self-evident horseshit of your reply here? Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
bill_barilko Posted September 28, 2010 Author Report Posted September 28, 2010 Wow..... Indeed-I am fluent in Spanish and have visited Colombia-I Win! You must be crying in your 2% beer over the news re:the commie traitor Piedad Cordoba-will you send her fraternal greetings when she's stripped of political immunity and sent away to rot? Because it couldn't happen to a more deserving 'person'. Maybe you could join her when she finally makes a run for the People's Republic of Blatant Idiocy (formerly known as Venezuela). Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 28, 2010 Report Posted September 28, 2010 ...As for my "ideological mental straightjacket"--yes, it's true that I found much of my information on Colombia's wanton human rights abuses from that paragon of radical leftist ideology: the US State Department's official index on countries. It just gets better around here...can't make this up. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bloodyminded Posted September 28, 2010 Report Posted September 28, 2010 (edited) Indeed-I am fluent in Spanish and have visited Colombia-I Win! But you're clearly not fluent in English; and yet I'll generously try to explain once again: Do you ever, I mean ever, offer any opinions on countries you haven't visited, in which the inhabitants speak a language with which you're unfamiliar? If the answer is yes (and of course it is) then you are, like I said, full of horseshit. Also a hypocrite. You can add that to your hardcore ideological fanatacism. You must be crying in your 2% beer over the news re:the commie traitor Piedad Cordoba-will you send her fraternal greetings when she's stripped of political immunity and sent away to rot?[/url]Because it couldn't happen to a more deserving 'person'. Maybe you could join her when she finally makes a run for the People's Republic of Blatant Idiocy (formerly known as Venezuela). Again, you are insisting upon your own inability to read. (I presume your Spanish is equally terrible). And again, since I'm a decent sort, I will reiterate what was already plain in my remarks: I wasn't supporting the Communist terrorists known as FARC. That's why I called them "ignominious." (Go look it up, even if you find English really, really hard.) The only one here who is supporting fanatical murderers is yourself--you think the Colombian military (and their technically illegal but still supported allies, the terroristic right-wing militias) are the Good Guys. Of course, you are a moral coward, so you take the conventional stance of all hard-right ideologues on this matter. Easier than a little research. So to be clear: I oppose terrorists and murderers. And you support them. Edited September 28, 2010 by bloodyminded Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
bill_barilko Posted October 2, 2010 Author Report Posted October 2, 2010 Do you ever, I mean ever, offer any opinions on countries you haven't visited, in which the inhabitants speak a language with which you're unfamiliar? No I do not-quite unlike you. Of course I've visited many many places in my life and speak a number of languages-again unlike you. Quote
bloodyminded Posted October 4, 2010 Report Posted October 4, 2010 (edited) No I do not-quite unlike you. Wrong. I denounced both. You denounce one...and support the other. That's because you believe "political ally" to be synonymous with "moral righteousness." As do all Commissars. Of course I've visited many many places in my life and speak a number of languages-again unlike you. So...you'v never offerred any opinions on countries of which you've never visited and don't speak the language? Riiiight. Edited October 4, 2010 by bloodyminded Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
bill_barilko Posted October 5, 2010 Author Report Posted October 5, 2010 Wrong. I denounced both. You denounce one...and support the other. That's because you believe "political ally" to be synonymous with "moral righteousness." A dead criminal gangster is a good criminal gangster-I make no distinctions. So...you'v never offerred (sic) any opinions on countries of which you've never visited and don't speak the language? I understand it's hard for someone with such a limited view of the trailer park world to imagine how the planet functions but it's nothing like the double wide. Some of us have seen enough/been enough places that we don't feel the need to spout ideological drivel at every turn. Quote
bloodyminded Posted October 5, 2010 Report Posted October 5, 2010 A dead criminal gangster is a good criminal gangster-I make no distinctions. Ah. So when I pointed out the plain fact that Colombia's leading political class, and its military, are thugs and gangsters--who have murdered more innocent people than the terrorist FARC--you didn't take it too well. And you certainly didn't agree. So when did you change your mind? I understand it's hard for someone with such a limited view of the trailer park world to imagine how the planet functions but it's nothing like the double wide. So you're a snob and an elitist too. Colour me amazed. Some of us have seen enough/been enough places that we don't feel the need to spout ideological drivel at every turn. This is a sidestep. A clumsy one, too. Again: why have you offered opinions on countries which you've never visited, and of which you're unfamiliar with the language? Because, according to your stated criteria, this makes you a bonehead of some sort. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
bill_barilko Posted October 6, 2010 Author Report Posted October 6, 2010 Again: why have you offered opinions on countries which you've never visited, and of which you're unfamiliar with the language? You're a tad mixed up-well more than a tad. It's not me who posts endlessly on places I've never been it's you. BTW-Have you heard the Fabulous News from the jungles of Choco? Of course Choco is a place you've never been to/will never go to/can't pronounce but that won't stop you posting on it-never does. Quote
bloodyminded Posted October 6, 2010 Report Posted October 6, 2010 You're a tad mixed up-well more than a tad. It's not me who posts endlessly on places I've never been it's you. BTW-Have you heard the Fabulous News from the jungles of Choco? Of course Choco is a place you've never been to/will never go to/can't pronounce but that won't stop you posting on it-never does. OK...let's see how much I post on the subject itself. You can busy yourself keeping track. Zero shouldn't be a difficult tally for you. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
bill_barilko Posted October 7, 2010 Author Report Posted October 7, 2010 OK...let's see how much I post on the subject itself. You can busy yourself keeping track. Zero shouldn't be a difficult tally for you. Maybe if you posted while sober you'd make some sense-maybe. Quote
bloodyminded Posted October 7, 2010 Report Posted October 7, 2010 Maybe if you posted while sober you'd make some sense-maybe. Maybe if you didn't hold to the delicate, frightened sensibilities of right-wing ideologues, you'd be able to debate intelligently. Maybe. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Pliny Posted November 1, 2010 Report Posted November 1, 2010 Wow! Such vitriol. bloodyminded is a good handle you really are on the far left but I never realized it was that far. But perhaps one should wonder at the Columbian Miracle. Narco-state to functional democracy Try reading the whole thing It seems since Uribe took power that extreme right wing factions have abrogated and support the government taking that role of protecting the citizenry. I think what has happened is that redefining the governments role as protectors of the people and the protector of human rights is what has changed. Instilling that concept in government, police and military has resulted in a 50% drop in crime. The people are happy. Thanks for the confirmation bill_barilko. Meanwhile back in Venezuela...... Quote I want to be in the class that ensures the classless society remains classless.
bill_barilko Posted November 1, 2010 Author Report Posted November 1, 2010 But perhaps one should wonder at the Columbian Miracle. Narco-state to functional democracy Try reading the whole thing It seems since Uribe took power that extreme right wing factions have abrogated and support the government taking that role of protecting the citizenry. There's tonnes of proof that right wing criminals have mounted a challenge to Latin America's oldest democracy-some are now behind bars for it and more are on their way. Interesting to see how ideology goes out the window where money is involved-evidence is surfacing lately of 'leftist' narco terrorists (as supported by a certain convenient dupe on this thread) joining forces with right wing narco gangs to process/ship their poison together. Birds of a feather..... Quote
bloodyminded Posted November 6, 2010 Report Posted November 6, 2010 Interesting to see how ideology goes out the window where money is involved-evidence is surfacing lately of 'leftist' narco terrorists (as supported by a certain convenient dupe on this thread) joining forces with right wing narco gangs to process/ship their poison together. Birds of a feather..... Hmmm. Since I hold, and have always held, that FARC and their ilk are criminals and terrorists--and have stated so on this very thread, in a discussion with you personally--it would appear, poor little barilko, that you are either illiterate or disingenuous. I leave it to you to decide which one. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
bloodyminded Posted November 6, 2010 Report Posted November 6, 2010 (edited) Wow! Such vitriol. bloodyminded is a good handle you really are on the far left but I never realized it was that far. Really? Are you referring to my unequivocal, outright condemnation of FARC as terrorists...or to Bill Barilko's pretence, based on nothing, that I somehow admire them? Or are you, like little Billy here, fundamentally unable to read English? The people are happy. Thanks for the confirmation bill_barilko.Meanwhile back in Venezuela...... Interestingly--and you definitely are aware of this, which makes your ommission interesting--Chavez is extremely popular. Perhaps you believe that trivial matters like the opinions of the poor majority are not to be taken seriously. Edited November 6, 2010 by bloodyminded Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
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