Loser Protesters

[Peter F]

Really wish there had been a few store owners willing to defend their property and blow the brains out of some of these idiots. Sad that our society would punish such defenders far more harshly than these marauding thugs. Sadder still is that young people in Toronto apparently have nothing better to do than behave like savages. Why were there no more security guards beside at that one store? Why no police keeping this scum from destroying businesses?

Heres the Socialist CBC report on another gang of ne-er do wells

[bjre]

Heres the Socialist CBC report on another gang of ne-er do wells

So you compare them with chinese gov and understand actually there are no difference between them at last?

Police clear protestors at Queen's Park

Edited June 28, 2010 by bjre

[margrace]

Ah but you should have been in Huntsville, only two small protests, no one near the fences, no one in the protest zone, well maybe one ferocious protester all of 2 years old demanding more cookies. The police gave him some. But hey just look what we got, in our small berg public washrooms, well of course they had to close our hospital to pay for them. North Bay airport got a 6 million airport and millions spend in Huntsville on things the G8 people never saw.

Now we are back to normal and who has to pay for all that, you can bet that Huntsville will be paying for years but didn't Clement look good. We have no beds for our seniors and no homecare but didn't we have a great time spending money on flowers and such.

The strongest group probably was for the homeless, the ones that Harris turned out onto the streets.

[Shakeyhands]

So you should ask yourself why Harper would have it in TORONTO???

Simple, best 'fuck you' that he could come up with.

[bjre]

Ah but you should have been in Huntsville, only two small protests, no one near the fences, no one in the protest zone, well maybe one ferocious protester all of 2 years old demanding more cookies. The police gave him some. But hey just look what we got, in our small berg public washrooms, well of course they had to close our hospital to pay for them. North Bay airport got a 6 million airport and millions spend in Huntsville on things the G8 people never saw.

Now we are back to normal and who has to pay for all that, you can bet that Huntsville will be paying for years but didn't Clement look good. We have no beds for our seniors and no homecare but didn't we have a great time spending money on flowers and such.

The strongest group probably was for the homeless, the ones that Harris turned out onto the streets.

Clearly, we the people are the loser again this time, especially those who can no longer get EI and still have no job.

The government too, is the loser, they get too much blames.

Who is the winner?

Obviously, the weapon industry who make the cop equipments.

Maybe that is the actually reason why G20 has to be here in Toronto. Who knows?

[Shakeyhands]

This is my favorite part of any protest there. Say what you will at least every Canadian big and small, left right or center stands for the singing of our national anthem.

Why did the police rush the crowd there? Too bad the clip is incomplete, I can't see any reason for them doing that.

[Keepitsimple]

Why did the police rush the crowd there? Too bad the clip is incomplete, I can't see any reason for them doing that.

It's how the police keep distance between themselves and the crowd - stay back at least 15 meters or about 50 feet. If you'll notice, everything's fine, then a couple of protesters move forward and sit down, then you can see the crowd start to assemble closer and move forward. What you don't hear are the obvious instructions to stay back. The police tactic is to rush forward suddenly - surprising everybody to create that separation again. Crowds seldom heed the police to move back. If they don't have tactics like that, the crowds just keep finding ways to push forward and get too close to the police - and that creates more opportunities for problems. As peaceful as this group seems, you just never know if there are thugs amongst them or about to join in.

[SF/PF]

The police tactic is to rush forward suddenly - surprising everybody to create that separation again. Crowds seldom heed the police to move back. If they don't have tactics like that, the crowds just keep finding ways to push forward and get too close to the police - and that creates more opportunities for problems. As peaceful as this group seems, you just never know if there are thugs amongst them or about to join in.

So we're now tolerating police violence against a collective group of peaceful citizens because there "might" be some thugs amongst them?

[bjre]

As peaceful as this group seems, you just never know if there are thugs amongst them or about to join in.

That seems to be a good reason. Because there is thugs exists, all Canadian should be treated as criminals. Is that what you want to say?

Edited June 28, 2010 by bjre

[Wild Bill]

The strongest group probably was for the homeless, the ones that Harris turned out onto the streets.

Actually, many of the homeless were already there by the time Harris was in power. Bob Rae was the man responsible!

Good ole Bob passed legislation that stopped authorities from institutionalizing someone with a mental problem for their own good. He felt that this was an infringement of their freedoms! If they wanted to run around on the streets and refuse to take their meds that was their right.

Almost overnight we began to see these former patients wandering the streets. Famiiies of these former inmates of course complained out of concern for their loved ones but no one in government listened.

Of course, what no one was willing to admit was that this move saved the provincial government a fortune in care costs! I guess you could include the Harris government for not repealing Bob's legislation among all the others we've had since Bob, but Rae was the originator.

[Rue]

.. you must believe there are times when women deserve to get raped as well.

I missed the above analogy.

Are you equating a bunch of hooligans with rape victims?

What a nonsensical comparison.

Edited June 28, 2010 by Rue

[Remiel]

I look forward to the report detailing the costs of vandalism during the protests.

[bjre]

I look forward to the report detailing the costs of vandalism during the protests.

That should be impossible to compare with a billion dollars.

[madmax]

Good ole Bob passed legislation that stopped authorities from institutionalizing someone with a mental problem for their own good. He felt that this was an infringement of their freedoms! If they wanted to run around on the streets and refuse to take their meds that was their right.

Almost overnight we began to see these former patients wandering the streets. Famiiies of these former inmates of course complained out of concern for their loved ones but no one in government listened.

Of course, what no one was willing to admit was that this move saved the provincial government a fortune in care costs! I guess you could include the Harris government for not repealing Bob's legislation among all the others we've had since Bob, but Rae was the originator.

Thats interesting.....

and 100% inaccurate.

Mike Harris put the Mentally Ill on the streets that were already in housing. Mike Harris put thousands on the streets.

And yes it did save the Province a ton of money. So much money, no Provincial Leader has tried to reverse the decision of 1995. The Year Mike Harris took office.

Unfortuneately for Ontario, We had a string of Progressively bad leaders.

Peterson: Arrogance

Rae: No Balls, Too Much Brain, No Courage.

Harris:To Many Balls not enough Brains,

Eves: To indecisive

McGuinty: Lying from Day one and continuing.

I am not a fan of any of these Premiers. But no need to get the facts blurred.

[madmax]

I look forward to the report detailing the costs of vandalism during the protests.

Me too.

We just had the biggest waste of time and money this country has seen in a 3 day photo opp.

And the message is lost because some clowns throw stones at storefront windows.

All around It looks like the G20/G8 fiasco is a complete waste of time and money.

[scribblet]

No. They are not. They are left wing zealots most from the world socialist movement and far from libertarian.

Exactly.

They aren't committed to social justice or making the world a better place. These morons are only committed to their idea of what is actually social injustice- (communism or hard left socialism). Making us all equally poor.

[SF/PF]

Exactly.

They aren't committed to social justice or making the world a better place. These morons are only committed to their idea of what is actually social injustice- (communism or hard left socialism). Making us all equally poor.

As opposed to the corporate leaders of the G8/G20 who are intent on making us all equally.. rich?

[bloodyminded]

Exactly.

They aren't committed to social justice or making the world a better place. These morons are only committed to their idea of what is actually social injustice- (communism or hard left socialism). Making us all equally poor.

A little minority aside, they are definitely committed to social justice and making the world a better place.

That you think they're wrong doesn't make their motives nefarious.

For some reason you simply refuse to believe this, since we've gone over it before more than once.

[Pliny]

Ah but you should have been in Huntsville, only two small protests, no one near the fences, no one in the protest zone, well maybe one ferocious protester all of 2 years old demanding more cookies. The police gave him some. But hey just look what we got, in our small berg public washrooms, well of course they had to close our hospital to pay for them. North Bay airport got a 6 million airport and millions spend in Huntsville on things the G8 people never saw.

Now we are back to normal and who has to pay for all that, you can bet that Huntsville will be paying for years but didn't Clement look good. We have no beds for our seniors and no homecare but didn't we have a great time spending money on flowers and such.

The strongest group probably was for the homeless, the ones that Harris turned out onto the streets.

Your basic error is thinking government will not decide what the priorities are. The priorities are government not health care.

[bjre]

Why did the police rush the crowd there? Too bad the clip is incomplete, I can't see any reason for them doing that.

The police separate the large protest crowd into small groups and detain them all and pick them one by one at Spadina Ave. and Queen St.W. from about 7:00 until 9:40 after arrested many and release the rest.

http://thestar.blogs.com/.a/6a00d8341bf8f353ef0133f1e4124a970b-800wi

http://thestar.blogs.com/g20/2010/06/live-blog-sunday-june-27-630pm.html#more

6:50 pm Riot police at Spadina Ave. and Queen St.W.

Hundreds of Toronto police officers in full riot gear occupy all four sides of the intersection of Spadina and Queen St. W., the site of often violent confrontation Saturday night.

Dozens of other police in riot gear block nearby streets including Cameron St. and Augusta Ave. Hundreds are boxed in – some are protesters, some gawkers. Dozens more police, also in full riot gear, are coming.

Six SUVs and vans with OPP officers have come from the west. The crowd is taunting them, shouting “stop antagonizing everybody.

” A line up of street cars – about four blocks long – extends eastward. All side streets within a six block radius have been blocked off. They have created a narrow funnel for protesters, gawkers and journalists, to pass through.

6:50 p.m.Queen St.West and Spadina Ave Protesters marched to waiting vehicles

Officers have detained several protesters north of Queen on Spadina and have marched them south on Spadina to waiting vehicles.

People blocked off at Queen and Cameron, west of Spadina, said the group was attempting to march to the Parkdale office of the Toronto Community Mobilization Network.

Police vans arrived at Queen and Cameron; some of the people assembled shouted “shame, shame.”

7:07 p.m. Queen St. W. and Spadina Ave. Tightly penned in

Joe Howell told The Star that, one by one, members of the crowd are being picked out of the crowd and taken through the police line that has formed near the northeast corner of the intersection.

It’s not clear whether these are demonstrators or bystanders.

They are going quietly, without resistance. Some wave as they are taken in hand. Meanwhile, it's pelting rain.

“We’re pretty tightly penned in,” he said. “The cops look pretty serious. They keep slamming their batons against their shields and pushing us closer together.”

7:32 p.m. Soho and Queen. Protesters Detained

Star photographer Lucas Oleniuk reports that Toronto police swooped in and detained everyone in front of the Black Bull.

8:15 p.m., Queen St. W. at Spadina

The angry crowd of hundreds huddled in the rain at Queen St. W. and Spadina Ave. was reduced to a small group standing face-to-face with police. While some of the protesters posed for photos in front of the police line, others were picked out of the crowd, one by one, as officers waded in to make individual arrests.

Police were screening the prisoners and detaining some while allowing others to leave the area.

9:27 p.m. Queen St. W. and Spadina Ave.

Police are loading detained alleged protesters into chartered TTC buses.

9:40

9:40 p.m. Crowds released

Television footage shows crowds from Queen St. W. and Spadina Ave. being released.

Edited June 28, 2010 by bjre

[Argus]

So you should ask yourself why Harper would have it in TORONTO???

The Black wack jobs came from as far as Quebec and Vancouver, from the US, too. They would have gone to whatever city held the thing, and not that many cities can accommodate a meeting that size.

[SF/PF]

The Black wack jobs came from as far as Quebec and Vancouver, from the US, too. They would have gone to whatever city held the thing, and not that many cities can accommodate a meeting that size.

Why have the meeting at all? Its pretty clear that these meetings could be held via video conferencing cheaply and easily. Assuming that the meetings have any actual value at all...

[Muddy]

The thugs have justified the spending of millions on security. Imagine if the police had not prepared what the anarchists would have done and the physical response of the police if they had been so out numbered. The thugs shanghied the protests and of that there is no doubt. But why did the good citizens not help the police in apprehending the black clad thugs? If I was a youngster and was legitimately protesting I certainly hope I would have reacted on the side of police to these thugs.

[SF/PF]

The thugs have justified the spending of millions on security.

I disagree. In order to justify the spending on security, the meeting itself needs to be justified. That hasn't been done yet.

[Shakeyhands]

The thugs have justified the spending of millions on security.

Bollocks. Lets see property repair costs for other G8/20 sites. I'll bet that we wasted a lot of money.