August1991 Posted May 25, 2010 Report Posted May 25, 2010 (edited) S'il veut éviter le chaos social, Québec doit impérativement fermer le robinet de l'immigration, estime l'ex-conseiller municipal d'Hérouxville, André Drouin.Opposé à toute forme d'accommodement pour des motifs religieux, l'auteur du Code de vie de la petite bourgade de la Mauricie a dénoncé jeudi en commission parlementaire le projet de loi 94 de la ministre de la Justice, Kathleen Weil. ... «On dit aux gens d'ailleurs: «Venez ici et faites ce que vous voulez». C'est comme si au hockey on décidait que chaque joueur aura sa propre rondelle. Avez-vous idée du nombre d'arbitres qu'il faudrait?», a-t-il illustré, plus tard en point de presse. .... «Il y a 35% de chômage dans la communauté musulmane de Québec. Ces gens-là, et j'en ai rencontré quelques-uns, ne sont pas venus ici pour être sur le chômage ou sur le bien-être social, ils sont venus ici pour travailler et on leur dit qu'ils ne peuvent pas», a-t-il poursuivi. La PresseThe Minister responds: «Je ne suis pas d'accord avec les déclarations de M. Drouin», a-t-elle commenté, avant d'ajouter qu'il avait le droit à son opinion et le droit de la dire en commission parlementaire.«Encore par l'annonce qu'on fait aujourd'hui, on a une démonstration très claire que l'immigration contribue de façon positive au développement du Québec. Ça fait depuis fort longtemps. C'est clair pour moi que les propos tenus par M. Drouin ne représentent pas ce que pensent la majorité des Québécois.» La Presse---- I don't even know where or how to start to explain how this debate is occurring in Quebec. I will say that the English CBC version is comically incorrect: If you're from Hérouxville, it's probably best not to admit it.That's how the mayor of the tiny Quebec town says residents have felt since they made international news and were thrust to the forefront of a heated debate over religious minorities. CBCIf you can't read French, I suggest that you use Google translate for the links above. Edited May 25, 2010 by August1991 Quote
August1991 Posted May 25, 2010 Author Report Posted May 25, 2010 (edited) Aujourd'hui, contrairement au Canada, l'essentiel de l'immigration en France n'est pas lié au marché du travail. Elle est due à la réunification familiale, aux mariages avec des étrangers, aux réfugiés, aux étudiants ou aux régularisations d'immigrants illégaux. Or, cette immigration est essentiellement fondée sur des droits et relève de l'Union européenne depuis le traité de Lisbonne. Résultat, dit Mme Tribalat, le contrôle des flux migratoires est devenu pratiquement impossible. Le DevoirThis quote is wrong. Canada's immigration too, since 1976, is based on family reunification. Nevertheless, Canada and Australia (unlike France) choose some immigrants based on skills. Edited May 25, 2010 by August1991 Quote
Smallc Posted May 25, 2010 Report Posted May 25, 2010 This quote is wrong. Canada's immigration too, since 1976, is based on family reunification. Umm no. I think you enjoy being wrong. Quote
August1991 Posted May 26, 2010 Author Report Posted May 26, 2010 (edited) Umm no. I think you enjoy being wrong. Family reunification has been a key feature of Canadian immigration since at least 1978, and certainly before.IMV, this government website does disservice to the goal of the law. The Immigration Act, the cornerstone of presentday immigration policy, was enacted in 1976 and came into force in 1978. It broke new ground by spelling out the fundamental principles and objectives of Canadian immigration policy. Included among these are the promotion of Canadas demographic, economic, cultural, and social goals; family reunification; the fulfillment of Canadas international obligations in relation to the United Nations Convention (1951) and its 1967 Protocol relating to refugees, which Canada had signed in 1969; nondiscrimination in immigration policy; and cooperation between all levels of government and the voluntary sector in the settlement of immigrants in Canadian society. Canadian Government---- To its credit, Canada (like the US, Australia and NZ) are among the few countries in the world who accept immigrants based solely on their skills. IOW, someone who speaks English/French, or someone who has a high school education, has a better chance to immigrate to Canada - or the US. Nevertheless, the main criteria for immigration to Canada (like elsewhere) is family relation. Canada's immigration law is designed (rightly IMV) to keep families together. For example, when a skilled immigrant is accepted, her/his children and spouse are accepted also. IOW, we don't accept individuals for immigration; we accept families. Smallc, it is on this point that I take issue with you. A cornerstone of Canada's immigration law is family reunification. Sadly, this cornerstone is not always respected and we Canadians descend into uncivilized elitist European hell with our caregiver programme. Here, we split families, sometimes for decades. Edited May 26, 2010 by August1991 Quote
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