Shady Posted March 22, 2010 Report Posted March 22, 2010 Pretty much sums up the Democrats under Obama... "There Are No Rules Here ... We Make Them Up As We Go Along" Pretty disgusting. :angry: Quote
punked Posted March 22, 2010 Report Posted March 22, 2010 (edited) Pretty much sums up the Democrats under Obama... "There Are No Rules Here ... We Make Them Up As We Go Along" Pretty disgusting. :angry: You do know he is talking about an argument with republicans in the rules committee as to if they can scheduling the vote for the amendments package before the vote on the Senate bill itself and the only person who contends they can't is Paul Ryan. Even the Republicans say that while it has never been done before it can still be done. Yes when they do something new which has no rule yet the Rules Committee gets to make them up as they go along. IT IS WHY THEY HAVE A RULES COMMITTEE SHADY. You again show you know nothing about anything. Please everyone read all the details and not a vague out of context clip a liar would post and misquote in the title. http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Rules-Committee-meeting-descends-into-chaos-88725962.html#ixzz0irfYxjxK Edited March 22, 2010 by punked Quote
Shady Posted March 22, 2010 Author Report Posted March 22, 2010 Oh, and to add a little more information to the above mentioned video. The member of congress who's speaking is Rep. Alcee Hastings, Democrat from Florida. Alcee Hastings D- Florida He used to be a U.S. District Judge of the Southern District of Florida. But he was but was impeached and removed from office for corruption, bribery, and perjury. Go figure. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted March 22, 2010 Report Posted March 22, 2010 Oh, and to add a little more information to the above mentioned video. More information than the 9 second clip of part of a sentence with no reference to what was said before or after? Wow. That's information overload! Quote
punked Posted March 22, 2010 Report Posted March 22, 2010 Oh, and to add a little more information to the above mentioned video. The member of congress who's speaking is Rep. Alcee Hastings, Democrat from Florida. Alcee Hastings D- Florida He used to be a U.S. District Judge of the Southern District of Florida. But he was but was impeached and removed from office for corruption, bribery, and perjury. Go figure. Yep and yet after that the people wanted him to represent him. He was tried by the highest court in the land the people Shady and no matter how much you hate the will of the people he was sent 17 years ago to represent them and had been returned many times. As he said and many Republicans have agree "when their are no rules for a situation the rules committee gets too make them up" I am sure he would have added no matter what a bunch of lairs think if it was wasn't so politically incorrect. Quote
bloodyminded Posted March 28, 2010 Report Posted March 28, 2010 More information than the 9 second clip of part of a sentence with no reference to what was said before or after? Wow. That's information overload! Agreed. Ah, partisan politics. The exact, indistinguishable video-clip arguments and counter-arguments flying back and forth. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Shady Posted April 3, 2010 Author Report Posted April 3, 2010 More political words of wisdom from the mouth of a democrat! The money quote: "I don't worry about the constitution on this to be honest" (:45 sec) Quote
Dithers Posted April 3, 2010 Report Posted April 3, 2010 More political words of wisdom from the mouth of a democrat! The money quote: "I don't worry about the constitution on this to be honest" (:45 sec) You realize you are hurting your own cause here. Cut your losses and move on. Quote DEATHCAMPS BLARG USA! USA! USA!
punked Posted April 3, 2010 Report Posted April 3, 2010 More political words of wisdom from the mouth of a democrat! The money quote: "I don't worry about the constitution on this to be honest" (:45 sec) Hey guess who mandated health care too? John Adams, and he helped write the constitution what a bunch of smug assholes who clearly know nothing about the constitution. Quote
Shady Posted April 3, 2010 Author Report Posted April 3, 2010 You realize you are hurting your own cause here. Cause you say so? Hey guess who mandated health care too? John Adams, and he helped write the constitution what a bunch of smug assholes who clearly know nothing about the constitution. Really? John Adams mandated healthcare insurance? Which company did he suggest to go with? Blue Cross or Blue Shield?! Nice deflection guys. Fact is, these Obamacare zealots don't give a crap about what constitutional authority the might and might not have. The Supreme Court will have the final say. Quote
GostHacked Posted April 3, 2010 Report Posted April 3, 2010 More information than the 9 second clip of part of a sentence with no reference to what was said before or after? Wow. That's information overload! Indeed some context would be nice. He could be talking about how things were when the Republicans were in power. But who knows. Doubt we will get a straight honest answer from Shady. Quote
punked Posted April 3, 2010 Report Posted April 3, 2010 Indeed some context would be nice. He could be talking about how things were when the Republicans were in power. But who knows. Doubt we will get a straight honest answer from Shady. I already told you what he was talking about in the thread. Just read it. Quote
punked Posted April 3, 2010 Report Posted April 3, 2010 Cause you say so? Really? John Adams mandated healthcare insurance? Which company did he suggest to go with? Blue Cross or Blue Shield?! Nice deflection guys. Fact is, these Obamacare zealots don't give a crap about what constitutional authority the might and might not have. The Supreme Court will have the final say. Yah it already had its say. Federal law trumps state law, remember the civil war? Quote
Shady Posted April 3, 2010 Author Report Posted April 3, 2010 (edited) Yah it already had its say. Federal law trumps state law, remember the civil war? Not true. Ever heard of the 10th amendment? The civil war doesn't apply. Slavery was unconstitutional. Edited April 3, 2010 by Shady Quote
punked Posted April 4, 2010 Report Posted April 4, 2010 Not true. Ever heard of the 10th amendment? The civil war doesn't apply. Slavery was unconstitutional. Too bad the Supremacy Clause exists Shady making your point stupid. In Edgar v. Mite Corporation, 457 U.S. 624 (1982), the Supreme Court ruled that "A state statute is void to the extent that it actually conflicts with a valid federal statute." Quote
Shady Posted April 5, 2010 Author Report Posted April 5, 2010 Too bad the Supremacy Clause exists Shady making your point stupid. Not at all. You continue to post legislation and rulings from the past without any real understanding of what they mean. My guess is that you're simply regurgitaing ideas from one of your leftwing blogs. The Supremacy Clause deals with states passing unconstitutional laws that contradict with constitional federal law. The more you post this stuff, the dumber you make yourself out to be! Quote
punked Posted April 5, 2010 Report Posted April 5, 2010 Not at all. You continue to post legislation and rulings from the past without any real understanding of what they mean. My guess is that you're simply regurgitaing ideas from one of your leftwing blogs. The Supremacy Clause deals with states passing unconstitutional laws that contradict with constitional federal law. The more you post this stuff, the dumber you make yourself out to be! You honestly know nothing about anything. The Supremacy Clause applies to the Constitution or A LAW PASSED BY CONGRESS. SO CITATION PLEASE SHADY. http://blogs.findlaw.com/law_and_life/2010/03/what-is-the-supremacy-clause-and-why-should-you-care.html http://www.kansasfreepress.com/2010/03/10th-amendment-does-not-trump-the-supremacy-clause.html http://www.nolanchart.com/article7171.html The supreme court doesn't have to even look at this they already have many times. STATE LAW IS SECOND TO FEDERAL. Quote
Shady Posted April 5, 2010 Author Report Posted April 5, 2010 The supreme court doesn't have to even look at this they already have many times. STATE LAW IS SECOND TO FEDERAL. Only if the federal law is constitutional. That's what the whole challenge is based on. Whether or not the federal law is in fact constitutional or not. Quote
punked Posted April 5, 2010 Report Posted April 5, 2010 Only if the federal law is constitutional. That's what the whole challenge is based on. Whether or not the federal law is in fact constitutional or not. No it is not. This is a 10th amendment challenge which has ALREADY BEEN RULED ON. The Supremacy Clause trumps the 10th amendment, and there is no way any court is going to rule against this. You know why? Because that puts, the civil rights act, Medicare, and Social Security in play. I can't find anyone agreeing with your belief Shady, the AG who are suing are doing so for show and nothing else. Quote
Shady Posted April 5, 2010 Author Report Posted April 5, 2010 No it is not. This is a 10th amendment challenge which has ALREADY BEEN RULED ON. The Supremacy Clause trumps the 10th amendment Are you seriously that dense? You seem to think that the Supremacy Clause allows the federal government to pass laws which are unconstitutional. No it doesn't. What it does, is prevents states from overriding constitutional federal law. I'll repeat. Write this down, and read it several times, so it finally sinks in. It allows constitutionally compliant federal law to trump state law. Its yet to be determined whether or not Obamacare is constitutionally compliant. It's being challenged, and not in regards to the 10th amendment, but in regards to the Commerce Clause. Please inform yourself better before you post references from your leftwing blogs, without a full understanding of what you're actually posting. Thanks in advance. Quote
punked Posted April 5, 2010 Report Posted April 5, 2010 (edited) Are you seriously that dense? You seem to think that the Supremacy Clause allows the federal government to pass laws which are unconstitutional. No it doesn't. What it does, is prevents states from overriding constitutional federal law. I'll repeat. Write this down, and read it several times, so it finally sinks in. It allows constitutionally compliant federal law to trump state law. Its yet to be determined whether or not Obamacare is constitutionally compliant. It's being challenged, and not in regards to the 10th amendment, but in regards to the Commerce Clause. Please inform yourself better before you post references from your leftwing blogs, without a full understanding of what you're actually posting. Thanks in advance. SHOW ME SHADY. Don't get mad when I point you are wrong SHOW ME. Every News Article I read coming out NOT SHADY's Head is talking about 10 amendment challenges. WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN RULED ON. I should expect no substance from you anyway you clearly know nothing about anything and that is why you wont post any real information and instead chose to make it up. http://neworleanscitybusiness.com/blog/2010/03/22/louisiana-ag-no-decision-on-opposing-health-care-overhaul/ http://www.syracuse.com/newsflash/index.ssf?/base/business-63/1269358828134430.xml&storylist=health http://cjonline.com/news/legislature/2010-04-02/ag_health_care_challenge_would_fail Hey look I found one. It concludes that it is a weak and dumb argument. That must be why you wont link anything. http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2010/03/could-health-care-reform-make-its-way-to-the-supreme-court.html Edited April 5, 2010 by punked Quote
ToadBrother Posted April 5, 2010 Report Posted April 5, 2010 Cause you say so? No, because you're using a dishonest technique called "quote mining". What it shows is you have no honor, and likely no morals. Quote
Shady Posted April 5, 2010 Author Report Posted April 5, 2010 SHOW ME SHADY. Don't get mad when I point you are wrong SHOW ME. Every News Article I read coming out NOT SHADY's Head is talking about 10 amendment challenges. WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN RULED ON. I should expect no substance from you anyway you clearly know nothing about anything and that is why you wont post any real information and instead chose to make it up. http://neworleanscitybusiness.com/blog/2010/03/22/louisiana-ag-no-decision-on-opposing-health-care-overhaul/ http://www.syracuse.com/newsflash/index.ssf?/base/business-63/1269358828134430.xml&storylist=health http://cjonline.com/news/legislature/2010-04-02/ag_health_care_challenge_would_fail Hey look I found one. It concludes that it is a weak and dumb argument. That must be why you wont link anything. http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2010/03/could-health-care-reform-make-its-way-to-the-supreme-court.html Have you even heard of the commerce clause? Quote
punked Posted April 5, 2010 Report Posted April 5, 2010 Have you even heard of the commerce clause? Yep and every source I read says it is stupid argument. Please though Shady educate yourself on it. http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/conlaw/2009/09/is-an-individual-health-insurance-mandate-constitutional.html Quote
Shady Posted August 2, 2010 Author Report Posted August 2, 2010 (edited) Great new video and more evidence the Democrats govern in ignorance of the constitution. The federal government can do most anything in this country. *edit* That woman rules!!!!! Edited August 2, 2010 by Shady Quote
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