Israel continues to spit in the face of international law

[jbg]

Interesting: in Berlin, wall was brough down by voluntary and peaceful unification; while in Jerusalem, a wall was built to "unite" it. Along with brute force and blatant disrespect for international law, of course.

Some similarities indeed.

Differences in Walls explained below.

Germany has been unified for some time now.

We talk about the losers in the war. Germany lost, and yet you claim East Berlin is as much a part of Germany as West Berlin. They were two separate countries and treated as such until reunification. The wall came down.

If you admit that East Berlin is a part of Germany, but you make the claim that Jerusalem belongs to Israel because Palestinians and the Jordanians lost the war.

Germany was the looser but East Berlin is a part of Germany.

Jordan/Palestine lost the war, but East Jerusalem is a part of Israel.

The Wall is still up.

Care to clear this up for me? It's confusing.

Sure.

The Western Wall or Wailing Wall was part of the ruins of the Second Temple. The Muslims catapulted the Al Aksa Mosque on top of the Western Wall. Thus, that Wall still stands not as a separation of the cities, but as part of archaelogical ruins of the Temple and part of the structure of the Al Aksa Mosque. It's standing or falling has nothing to do with the outcome of any war. A different barrier was used by Jordan to keep Jews out of the former Old City. Now that Israel controls Jerusalem, there are no barriers to movement between the Old and New City except for security pass-throughs to keep out those bent on murder.

After Germany lost WW II, Germany and Berlin were separately partitioned into four occupation zones: U.S., British, French and Russian. The three occupation zones of the democracies were joined in both Berlin and Germany, creating an East Germany and West Germany, East Berlin and West Berlin. The Berlin Wall was created long after the partition of Berlin, as a result of massive defections from East Berlin into West Berlin and thence to other free world areas. East Germany and West Germany were, shortly after the WW II occupations, separately granted independence, with control over their respective parts of Berlin.

Later, in 1989, the Berlin Wall was razed when the then extant East Germany, under Russian influence, decided to no longer stop movement of people between the Germnanies and the Berlins. This was not done for generosity. During the days before the breach in the Berlin Wall, hundreds of thousands were escaping daily through Warsaw Pact member Hungary, and then to other free world countries. Hungary, if you recall, had loosened most Communist-era restrictions in stages in 1988 and 1989, including their own outward travel restrictions. It was impractical to seal the border between East Germany and Hungary, which was open by virtue of their mutual alliance asa Warsaw Pact members. It would be a lot like trying to seal the U.S.-Canadian border.

With keeping East Germany as an open-air prison no longer viable, the Berlin Wall, whose goal was to rope people in, was torn down. The Western Wall in Jerusalem, again, is not designed as a "barrier wall".

I hope this eases your confusion.