Quebec Day care licenses restricted

[Leafless]

English-speaking day care operators have told the Bulletin d’Aylmer that the organization which issues “c.p.e.” day-care permits allowing the operator to run a government-subsidized day care have put a stop to new permits for English-speaking providers. They have not put a stop on permits to new French-speaking providers.

Oh happy day ....further alleged discrimination based on language and not to mention $7 dollar a day subsidized daycare cost taxpayers from a projected $230-million over five years to currently $1.7-billion per year.

http://www.bulletinaylmer.com/page1.html

[fellowtraveller]

Oh happy day ....further alleged discrimination based on language and not to mention $7 dollar a day subsidized daycare cost taxpayers from a projected $230-million over five years to currently $1.7-billion per year.

http://www.bulletinaylmer.com/page1.html

You have to applaud Quebec for getting the ROC to pay for social programs the other provinces cannot afford for themselves, like cheap day care.

No other province has manipulated this ridiculous situation with anywhere near the proficiency of Quebec.

Of course, everybody else is trying.

Where oh where is that guy who keeps telling me how well this country/government works?

[Smallc]

Right here. I don't see how this is an example of Canada's government not working. Education is within the exclusive jurisdiction of the provinces. Yes, Quebec gets equalization, which they are entitled to....and it is theirs to do with as they see fit.

In the interest of full disclosure, Manitoba has a similar system, though it is not subsidized to the degree that Quebec's is.

[Mr.Canada]

Right here. I don't see how this is an example of Canada's government not working. Education is within the exclusive jurisdiction of the provinces. Yes, Quebec gets equalization, which they are entitled to....and it is theirs to do with as they see fit.

In the interest of full disclosure, Manitoba has a similar system, though it is not subsidized to the degree that Quebec's is.

As long as theirs a Conservative PM in the House, everything is their fault.

[Smallc]

What?

[fellowtraveller]

Right here. I don't see how this is an example of Canada's government not working. Education is within the exclusive jurisdiction of the provinces. Yes, Quebec gets equalization, which they are entitled to....and it is theirs to do with as they see fit.

In the interest of full disclosure, Manitoba has a similar system, though it is not subsidized to the degree that Quebec's is.

It is an example of the govt working for you, I'll grant that.

How are the other leeches doing with those programs?

[Smallc]

It doesn't benefit me in any way personally. It does benefit society.

[fellowtraveller]

It doesn't benefit me in any way personally. It does benefit society.

Publicly funded universal day care benefits children?

That is an opinion, not a fact.

I'll grant that it benefits the taxable income of particpating families, and lessens the net income of everybody else.

[Smallc]

Publicly funded universal day care benefits children?

That is an opinion, not a fact.

Actually no, it's been shown that children that begin formal education do better overall.

[fellowtraveller]

Actually no, it's been shown that children that begin formal education do better overall.

Irrelevant, since day cares do not provide anything remotely resembling 'formal education'. Curriculum, professional teachers?

And I dispute the notion that handing your kids to underpaid strangers to be raised is of more benefit to them than being tutored by their parents until they go to school. I do understand the financial benefit to you.

[Leafless]

It doesn't benefit me in any way personally. It does benefit society.

Actually it is supposed benefit:

The payments help guarantee "reasonably comparable levels" of health care, education, and welfare in all the provinces. The definition of "reasonably comparable levels", however, has been the subject of considerable debate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equalization_payments

[Smallc]

Irrelevant, since day cares do not provide anything remotely resembling 'formal education'. Curriculum, professional teachers?

Then you haven't been to a daycare any time recently.

And I dispute the notion that handing your kids to underpaid strangers to be raised is of more benefit to them than being tutored by their parents until they go to school. I do understand the financial benefit to you.

When people have their ECE II here, they aren't underpaid.

Edited March 23, 2010 by Smallc

[fellowtraveller]

Then you haven't been to a daycare any time recently.

When people have their ECE II here, they aren't underpaid.

ECE II is equivalent to a teaching degree in Manitoba?

I do hope you can afford that larger house and second car with those subsidies to your lifestyle. Make sure to wear a 'Daddy' nametag so your well educated 2 year old will know who you are when you pick him up.

[BubberMiley]

You'd think someone so wealthy they didn't have to work wouldn't worry to the point of obsession about transfer payments.

[Smallc]

ECE II is equivalent to a teaching degree in Manitoba?

No, it isn't. You don't need a teaching degree for early years, but child daycare, at least in Manitoba, is becoming very formalized.

[BubberMiley]

ECE II is equivalent to a teaching degree in Manitoba?

ECE II is better than a teaching degree. It's specialized to early childhood, which is a unique learning period that requires its own curriculum and teaching strategies. Licensed daycares offer formal programs that are developed for these key years of early learning. Kids from these programs are better socialized, more active, and better learners once they enter kindergarten, compared with the kids who spent their first five years watching Treehouse.

[Leafless]

Kids from these programs are better socialized, more active, and better learners once they enter kindergarten, compared with the kids who spent their first five years watching Treehouse.

Sure!

More French is good for everyone.