wulf42 Posted November 15, 2009 Author Report Posted November 15, 2009 (edited) :lol: Deleted the rest of post since it was more of same, but, LMFAO. And to think I was accused of poor reading comprehension on this board. Um....WULF...eyeball is NOT saying that these people are freedom fighters. I'm not sure if I should help you with this or let you figure it out on your own. Meh. Since you're so sure that anyone who even suggests that Khadr MAY be innocent is "disgusting", you're on your own. Read the post again. If necessary, get someone to help you. Eyeball has defended these people more than once........he really thinks they are freedom fighters! Edited November 15, 2009 by wulf42 Quote
eyeball Posted November 15, 2009 Report Posted November 15, 2009 Eyeball has defended these people more than once........he really thinks they are freedom fighters! No, I've merely said I understand why these people commit terrorism and why they view themselves as freedom fighters. I've certainly never advocated that they 'kill the animals' that have molested and provoked many people to the point of insanity. Would you like me to cite all the instances you have? I suspect I'd find dozens and dozens of examples by searching for results showing 'wulf42' and 'kill' and 'animals'. It would probably be easier to just search for all posts containing your excited enthusiastic exclamaition marks but I doubt its configured to do that. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Jerry J. Fortin Posted November 15, 2009 Report Posted November 15, 2009 Call them freedom fighters or terrorists or just your basic run of the mill IRA/KKK types. Justice will not be served until the individual has a day in court. Quote
wulf42 Posted November 15, 2009 Author Report Posted November 15, 2009 (edited) No, I've merely said I understand why these people commit terrorism and why they view themselves as freedom fighters. I've certainly never advocated that they 'kill the animals' that have molested and provoked many people to the point of insanity. Would you like me to cite all the instances you have? I suspect I'd find dozens and dozens of examples by searching for results showing 'wulf42' and 'kill' and 'animals'. It would probably be easier to just search for all posts containing your excited enthusiastic exclamaition marks but I doubt its configured to do that. So are you saying your a terrorist sympathizer? So are you saying you understand why they throw acid in young girls faces?? how can any reasonable person have any understanding of that?? and your friggin right i consider Al Qaeda and Taliban to be animals......in my view they are not human! The French resistance were freedom fighters......not these scumbags they are nothing but two bit war lords pushing their evil agenda on innocent people and Omar was/is one of them! Edited November 15, 2009 by wulf42 Quote
wulf42 Posted November 15, 2009 Author Report Posted November 15, 2009 :lol: Deleted the rest of post since it was more of same, but, LMFAO. And to think I was accused of poor reading comprehension on this board. Um....WULF...eyeball is NOT saying that these people are freedom fighters. I'm not sure if I should help you with this or let you figure it out on your own. Meh. Since you're so sure that anyone who even suggests that Khadr MAY be innocent is "disgusting", you're on your own. Read the post again. If necessary, get someone to help you. The fact he was found with the Taliban makes him guilty, who cares if he threw the Grenade or not he was found fighting with a terrorist group which makes him the enemy. He deserves nothing from Canada but he deserves to be shot or hanged by the Americans. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 15, 2009 Report Posted November 15, 2009 The fact he was found with the Taliban makes him guilty, who cares if he threw the Grenade or not he was found fighting with a terrorist group which makes him the enemy. He deserves nothing from Canada but he deserves to be shot or hanged by the Americans. If anything, they have the little turd fusing land mines on camera for our guys to step on. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted November 15, 2009 Report Posted November 15, 2009 So are you saying your a terrorist sympathizer? Nope. So are you saying you understand why they throw acid in young girls faces?? Yes, they're insane. how can any reasonable person have any understanding of that?? Well, if a person is reasonable its probably safe to say they're not insane and are capable of understanding. and your friggin right i consider Al Qaeda and Taliban to be animals......in my view they are not human! They probably hold a very similar view towards human beings like you. Go figure. The French resistance were freedom fighters.....not these scumbags they are nothing but two bit war lords pushing their evil agenda on innocent people Oh c'mon, one side's freedom fighter is always the other side's terrorist...and our own war lords who push their evil agendas on innocent people are nothing but a bunch of scumbags too. and Omar was/is one of them! No, Omar was not a warlord, he was a kid, and according to our laws, amongst others, was/is innocent. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Gabriel Posted November 15, 2009 Report Posted November 15, 2009 PcketRocket - Look, you're obviously not a stupid a person. I'm not going to get into a debate about whether or not Khadr is guilty of supporting terrorists. You cannot honestly think that Khadr was in Afghanistan on some sort of summer camp adventure. Beyond that, thee evidence against is MASSIVE. Feel free to look at it for awhile and draw your own conclusion. If you're brain is operational, you'll realize that he was in Afghanistan with the clear intention of supporting our enemies. With respect to his confession of being proud that the grenade he threw killed an American medic (hardly a surprising comment from a terrorist, I'm not sure how anyone can find that hard to believe), I read it somewhere on CBC. Virtually all of my knowledge of this case has come from Canadian internet media. This is an open and shut case - to the same degree as the Major Nidal Hasan mass murder terrorist. If you don't want to believe it, fine. I don't care if you want to be blind. Lastly, with respect to Bush's infamous "with us or with the terrorists" comment - I largely support that statement. Perhaps it wasn't the bet choice of words in order to garner support from certain countries in order to prosecute the war on terror, but let's not be naive and expect that somehow the international community stands in ANY principles. There are only a handful of countries that make difficult choices for the greater good. In all seriousness, if you do not assist in the prosecution of the war on terror in order to pursue terrorists and their organizations in order to reduce the threat they pose, you are complicit in terrorism. Bush was right about that. There's really no middle point or half-way perspective with respect to right and wrong. I know extremist left-winger don't believe in right and wrong, but people with a moral compass understand that we're on the right side of this war. Complacency and apathy is virtually synonymous with complicity, if you ask me. Quote
Jerry J. Fortin Posted November 15, 2009 Report Posted November 15, 2009 Nope. Yes, they're insane. Well, if a person is reasonable its probably safe to say they're not insane and are capable of understanding. They probably hold a very similar view towards human beings like you. Go figure. Oh c'mon, one side's freedom fighter is always the other side's terrorist...and our own war lords who push their evil agendas on innocent people are nothing but a bunch of scumbags too. No, Omar was not a warlord, he was a kid, and according to our laws, amongst others, was/is innocent. How do you know he is innocent? Quote
charter.rights Posted November 15, 2009 Report Posted November 15, 2009 You are disgusting.....you call them freedom fighters???????...they throw acid in young girl faces,behead girls for not covering their faces,execute people just on a whim! My only hope is Canadians like you are the minority! Here is what your "freedom fighters" as you call them do to villagers ,the people they are according to you protecting! http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politics/whispers/documents/atrocity011126.pdf http://www.papillonsartpalace.com/massacre.htm I wonder... are the American soldiers in Afghanistan really "freedom fighters" as they claim to be, or terrorists? I guess that would depend on which end of the rifle one would be looking at.... Quote “Safeguarding the rights of others is the most noble and beautiful end of a human being.” Kahlil Gibran “Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.” Albert Einstein
Jerry J. Fortin Posted November 15, 2009 Report Posted November 15, 2009 I wonder... are the American soldiers in Afghanistan really "freedom fighters" as they claim to be, or terrorists? I guess that would depend on which end of the rifle one would be looking at.... Good point! Well said CR! Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 15, 2009 Report Posted November 15, 2009 eyeballs: Oh c'mon, one side's freedom fighter is always the other side's terrorist...and our own war lords who push their evil agendas on innocent people are nothing but a bunch of scumbags too. So the French/Dutch/Russian Resistance was/is the moral equivalent of the Taliban and al-Qaeda? Relativist. You actually deserve to live in a world where the Nazis won. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted November 15, 2009 Report Posted November 15, 2009 I wonder... are the American soldiers in Afghanistan really "freedom fighters" as they claim to be, or terrorists? I guess that would depend on which end of the rifle one would be looking at.... The reports of US/Allied servicemen/women splashing acid onto young school girls just keep on coming. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Guest TrueMetis Posted November 15, 2009 Report Posted November 15, 2009 So the French/Dutch/Russian Resistance was/is the moral equivalent of the Taliban and al-Qaeda? Relativist. You actually deserve to live in a world where the Nazis won. From the Nazis POV then yes they would have been. Quote
Jerry J. Fortin Posted November 15, 2009 Report Posted November 15, 2009 Speaks volumes for not getting involved in the internal troubles of nations. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 15, 2009 Report Posted November 15, 2009 From the Nazis POV then yes they would have been. You are aware of what the Third Reich did...right? You can't put the French Resistance into the same pile as the fellows that got Treblinka up and running. That's known as relativism. The Nazis were pure evil...the French Resistance, unwilling combatants. There are the occasional absolutes on this ol' Earth. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Gabriel Posted November 15, 2009 Report Posted November 15, 2009 Speaks volumes for not getting involved in the internal troubles of nations. These are NOT exclusively internal troubles of other nations. Islamic terrorism is attacking Western interests and our allies around the world and has been for decades. This is hardly a problem reserved to the inner working of Muslim/Arab countries. How can you be this naive? Quote
Guest TrueMetis Posted November 15, 2009 Report Posted November 15, 2009 You are aware of what the Third Reich did...right? You can't put the French Resistance into the same pile as the fellows that got Treblinka up and running. That's known as relativism. The Nazis were pure evil...the French Resistance, unwilling combatants. There are the occasional absolutes on this ol' Earth. I'm not saying that the French resistance are like the Taliban, objectively they are nothing like the Taliban, but subjectively from the Nazi POV they were terrorists. Quote
Gabriel Posted November 15, 2009 Report Posted November 15, 2009 I'm not saying that the French resistance are like the Taliban, objectively they are nothing like the Taliban, but subjectively from the Nazi POV they were terrorists. So what's your point? Quote
eyeball Posted November 15, 2009 Report Posted November 15, 2009 Lastly, with respect to Bush's infamous "with us or with the terrorists" comment - I largely support that statement. Perhaps it wasn't the bet choice of words in order to garner support from certain countries in order to prosecute the war on terror, but let's not be naive and expect that somehow the international community stands in ANY principles. There are only a handful of countries that make difficult choices for the greater good. In all seriousness, if you do not assist in the prosecution of the war on terror in order to pursue terrorists and their organizations in order to reduce the threat they pose, you are complicit in terrorism. Bush was right about that. There's really no middle point or half-way perspective with respect to right and wrong. I know extremist left-winger don't believe in right and wrong, but people with a moral compass understand that we're on the right side of this war. No, the international community definitely shouldn't try to stand on principles, because much of it will just sink like a stone if it does. I think Bush's words were like classic Freudian slips. The best example was Bush's oft-repeated references to the global network of support that fuelled terrorist organizations. This is a perfect analogy for the support "our side" has provided to many military dictatorships and regimes. No one put a finer point on the real root causes of terrorism than Bush himself. Complacency and apathy is virtually synonymous with complicity, if you ask me. I've been saying this for years too. In all seriousness, if you provide aid to a dictator, you are complicit in their dictatorship. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted November 15, 2009 Report Posted November 15, 2009 How do you know he is innocent? He was a kid when he was arrested. Our law says this makes him innocent Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
DogOnPorch Posted November 15, 2009 Report Posted November 15, 2009 I'm not saying that the French resistance are like the Taliban, objectively they are nothing like the Taliban, but subjectively from the Nazi POV they were terrorists. And my point is: why the heck do we even care what Nazis think? Their POV is meaningless. Scene: Plaszow, Poland mid-1945.Russian soldier #1: Look at that poor death camp guard...those Jews are beating him to death with soup pans! Russian soldier #2: You're right....Hey, look...I found some coffee...and some cigars...Want some? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
wulf42 Posted November 15, 2009 Author Report Posted November 15, 2009 (edited) He was a kid when he was arrested. Our law says this makes him innocent Which is exactly why the U.S. is keeping him and then they will execute him! They know our stupid laws would let this freak walk. The Americans caught him they can keep him, Canada doesn t want or need this filth. Edited November 15, 2009 by wulf42 Quote
Guest TrueMetis Posted November 15, 2009 Report Posted November 15, 2009 So what's your point? The Taliban are insane enough to think they are freedom fighters, and there are many people in the world stupid enough to believe them. And my point is: why the heck do we even care what Nazis think? Their POV is meaningless. I don't care either but there are a lot of stupid people out there. Quote
eyeball Posted November 15, 2009 Report Posted November 15, 2009 So the French/Dutch/Russian Resistance was/is the moral equivalent of the Taliban and al-Qaeda? Nope, never said that. Are you saying our support for regimes like the Shah of Iran, the House of Saud or Saddam Hussein is the moral equivalent to fighting Hitler? Relativist. You actually deserve to live in a world where the Nazis won. It often seems I do. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
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