Canadian Identity: un-American

[Guest TrueMetis]

You were a victim of brainwashing

Great rebuttal.

Your point is?

They're two entirely seperate entities.

Trolling? I am not the one declaring Canadians fought in the World wars when the people of Canada were British subjects up until 1947. World War two ended in 1945. I am not the one claiming Canadians fought off the Americans in 1812 when in fact the British Monarch sent in Troops to defend Canada from the American Invasion. These facts don't sit well with you people. If you people can't accept the facts as they are then you are the trolls.

No your the idiot who keeps talking about us not accepting our history but then saying we don't have any because it was the british.

WW2 Forces that were called Canadian lead by Canadians, tell the Dutch that it wasn't the Canadians in WW2.

War of 1812 mostly Canadian militia with some British support untill the war with the French was over.

[whowhere]

Great rebuttal.

They're two entirely seperate entities.

You are wrong. The British Monarch is the British Monarch. They are one and the same. Your logic is like saying New York State has a different President than California. The President is the President.

No your the idiot who keeps talking about us not accepting our history but then saying we don't have any because it was the british.

Yes it is British History. The last act by the British Monarch on Canada was the 1982 Constitution and the Charter of Rights. The British Monarch is/was involved in many areas of Canada evolution.

WW2 Forces that were called Canadian lead by Canadians, tell the Dutch that it wasn't the Canadians in WW2.

Once again British Subject till 1947, World war 2 ended in 1945. No Canadians fought in the World Wars.

War of 1812 mostly Canadian militia with some British support untill the war with the French was over.

This is where you show yourself to be the idiot. Canada was not established until 1867. Those who settled in Ontario were those who fled the United States. The Canadians referred to by George Washington in 1755 did not fight for the British against the US. If they did fight it was under duress and protest. It is documented those Canadians fought 4 years to help bring about an independent United States but somehow these Canadians fought to defend their occupiers from the US.

If anyone is an idiot, its one who embraces lies and insist its true. The documents of the Contitental Congress will outlast the English Speaking Trash of Canada. And like all trash you will be disposed out of life accordingly.

[Guest TrueMetis]

[kimmy]

If anyone is an idiot, its one who embraces lies and insist its true. The documents of the Contitental Congress will outlast the English Speaking Trash of Canada. And like all trash you will be disposed out of life accordingly.

classy

-k

[g_bambino]

You are wrong. The British Monarch is the British Monarch. They are one and the same.

Now that... that is sheer genious! The British monarch is the British monarch. Wow.

Now how about this one: the British government is not the Canadian government. Pretty tricky, eh?

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Edited November 23, 2009 by g_bambino

[Alta4ever]

What part of 1947 do you not understand. Before 1947 British Subject. After 1947 Canadian Citizen.

Got it! Stop putting meth into your arm.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End_of_World_War_II_in_Europe

Citizen after 1947, World War 2 ended in 1945. Canada's soldiers participated as British Subjects, not Canadians.

We participated as Canadians.

[g_bambino]

We participated as Canadians.

It's plainly clear that he's too stuck on the literal, superficial translation of "British subject" to understand the truth; he thinks because the term "British subject" continued to be used throughout the Commonwealth post-1931, everybody in the Commonwealth remained subject to the British government. In reality, it was just an anachronistic phrase that remained in use between 1931 and 1947, and probably would have been eliminated sooner had WWII not intervened.

If he can't get his head around that, I think it's hopeless to believe he'll ever grasp the idea of a personal union.

[Alta4ever]

It's plainly clear that he's too stuck on the literal, superficial translation of "British subject" to understand the truth; he thinks because the term "British subject" continued to be used throughout the Commonwealth post-1931, everybody in the Commonwealth remained subject to the British government. In reality, it was just an anachronistic phrase that remained in use between 1931 and 1947, and probably would have been eliminated sooner had WWII not intervened.

If he can't get his head around that, I think it's hopeless to believe he'll ever grasp the idea of a personal union.

He needs to go and read the statute of Westminster

[nothinarian]

If anyone is an idiot, its one who embraces lies and insist its true. The documents of the Contitental Congress will outlast the English Speaking Trash of Canada. And like all trash you will be disposed out of life accordingly.

Dignify with a response or ...

I am confused - I have a scottish acadian heritage and speak both official languages. Does that make me half trashed or am I only trash while I speak english?

Or when I speak french but use franglais do I morph to trash and back instantaneously?

This is all new to me but so is disposing of an entire people based on based on their language, race, religion, creed ... wait a sec...wait a sec...you ever have that feeling that you have been somewhere before but just can't place it.

[whowhere]

It's plainly clear that he's too stuck on the literal, superficial translation of "British subject" to understand the truth; he thinks because the term "British subject" continued to be used throughout the Commonwealth post-1931, everybody in the Commonwealth remained subject to the British government. In reality, it was just an anachronistic phrase that remained in use between 1931 and 1947, and probably would have been eliminated sooner had WWII not intervened.

If he can't get his head around that, I think it's hopeless to believe he'll ever grasp the idea of a personal union.

Being a subject, is a subject to the king or Queen not the British Government. Can you grasp that?? The attitudes of you people is revealing of your character as human beings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments

16 You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

That means you shall not lie. You people are effing liars and really that is another contrast between the US and Canada. Canada is a den of devils. 1947 Canadians lack Character, they are dishonest, untrustworthy, they are not worth their spit. All I can say tick tock goes the clock and then this world will never hear or see from likes of you trash again.

You people are so vain and full of hate you are garbage. You so called pretension Canadians have carved a history of hating Quebec that you fail to see the pshchological impact of your attitudes. Your history cannot come at the expense of Quebec's history. If you people cannot accept the facts and the truth of history may this god curse the ground you people walk. And when you people are through walking and death takes you, you are thrown into the furnace of fire that jesus spoke to be obliterated out of existence.

[Guest TrueMetis]

Being a subject, is a subject to the king or Queen not the British Government. Can you grasp that?? The attitudes of you people is revealing of your character as human beings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments

16 You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

I find it Ironic that you have a qoute from the king james bible. In the Bible it says homosexuality is a sin yet kings james was gay. Now if you don't think being gay is a sin than you can't use the bible to tell people not to lie.

[Alta4ever]

Being a subject, is a subject to the king or Queen not the British Government. Can you grasp that?? The attitudes of you people is revealing of your character as human beings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments

16 You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

That means you shall not lie. You people are effing liars and really that is another contrast between the US and Canada. Canada is a den of devils. 1947 Canadians lack Character, they are dishonest, untrustworthy, they are not worth their spit. All I can say tick tock goes the clock and then this world will never hear or see from likes of you trash again.

You people are so vain and full of hate you are garbage. You so called pretension Canadians have carved a history of hating Quebec that you fail to see the pshchological impact of your attitudes. Your history cannot come at the expense of Quebec's history. If you people cannot accept the facts and the truth of history may this god curse the ground you people walk. And when you people are through walking and death takes you, you are thrown into the furnace of fire that jesus spoke to be obliterated out of existence.

Copyright/Source

1931 - 1982: Toward Renewal and Patriation

With the passage of the Statute of Westminster, Canada ceased to be a colony of Britain: She was a proper country in her own right. In the next 50 years the balance of power between provinces and federal governments changed a little, but not much. By the end of the 1970s, a major movement in Canadian constitutional history was to patriate the Constitution home. There were also requests from Québec after the Quiet Revolution for a renewal of Confederation.

http://www.canadiana.org/citm/themes/constitution/constitution15_e.html

In 1931 we became subjects of the Canadian Crown.

[jbg]

That means you shall not lie. You people are effing liars and really that is another contrast between the US and Canada.

Do you mean the U.S. has no liars?

Canada is a den of devils. 1947 Canadians lack Character, they are dishonest, untrustworthy, they are not worth their spit. All I can say tick tock goes the clock and then this world will never hear or see from likes of you trash again.

As opposed to 1948 or 2009 Canadians?

You people are so vain and full of hate you are garbage. You so called pretension Canadians have carved a history of hating Quebec that you fail to see the pshchological impact of your attitudes. Your history cannot come at the expense of Quebec's history.

And what are the concrete accomplishments of Francophone Canadians other than hockey playing and playing the equalization game like a fiddle?

If you people cannot accept the facts and the truth of history may this god curse the ground you people walk. And when you people are through walking and death takes you, you are thrown into the furnace of fire that jesus spoke to be obliterated out of existence.

I'm not a believer in Jesus. What then?

[whowhere]

I find it Ironic that you have a qoute from the king james bible. In the Bible it says homosexuality is a sin yet kings james was gay. Now if you don't think being gay is a sin than you can't use the bible to tell people not to lie.

Whether king james was gay or not is irrelevant. That book was transcribed by 50 English Scholars along with Masoretic jews using the allepo codex. He had no part in it other than having it commissioned. So you like to play quarterback good for you. Do what you like, it's your futile existence.

[g_bambino]

Being a subject, is a subject to the king or Queen not the British Government. Can you grasp that??

I can. But, since it's you who speaks as though Canadians were subject to the latter because they are subject to the former, the better question is: can you?

[whowhere]

http://www.canadiana.org/citm/themes/constitution/constitution15_e.html

In 1931 we became subjects of the Canadian Crown.

Right.. Where did it say that? All the Statue of westminister did was make Canada independent of the UK parliament. Yippie Dooda because the British monarch was then and still is the sovereign of Canada. She is represented in Canada by the Governor General. No acts of parliament or legislation is passed unless signed off by the Governor General.

The fact is Canadians were british subjects up until 1947. You people will just have to accept that as Canadian history. Deal with it.

[Alta4ever]

Right.. Where did it say that? All the Statue of westminister did was make Canada independent of the UK parliament. Yippie Dooda because the British monarch was then and still is the sovereign of Canada. She is represented in Canada by the Governor General. No acts of parliament or legislation is passed unless signed off by the Governor General.

The fact is Canadians were british subjects up until 1947. You people will just have to accept that as Canadian history. Deal with it.

Within it it created crowns for the commonwealth countries, That statute created the Canadian crown.

[Alta4ever]

By the end of the First World War, the increased fortitude of Canadian nationalism inspired the country's leaders to push for greater independence from the King in his British Council, resulting in the creation of the uniquely Canadian monarchy through the Statute of Westminster, which was granted Royal Assent in 1931.[24][198] Only five years later, Canada had three successive kings in the space of one year, with the death of George V, the accession and abdication of Edward VIII, and his replacement by George VI.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_Canada#History

[whowhere]

Do you mean the U.S. has no liars? As opposed to 1948 or 2009 Canadians?

To lie is human nature and is violation of the commandments.

I'm not a believer in Jesus. What then?

Either am I except the part where the human trash is thrown into the furnace of fire where there will be gnashing of teeth and obliterated out of existence. I like the king james there are subtle passages that makes the book cohesive. You come into this world as....and if you are deemed garbage you are expunged accordingly. Believe it or not, makes no difference. I will enter death comforted by this knowledge.

What then? Really, I don't care, you are not my problem, except when you refuse to accept the facts.

[g_bambino]

For Whoowhee's further edification:

Canada shares the same monarch with each of 15 monarchies in the 53-member Commonwealth of Nations, a grouping known informally as the Commonwealth realms. The emergence of this arrangement paralleled the evolution of Canadian nationalism following the end of the First World War and culminated in the passage of the Statute of Westminster in 1931, since when the pan-national Crown has had both a shared and separate character,[21] and the sovereign's role as monarch of Canada has been distinct to his or her position as monarch of the United Kingdom.[n 2][22] The monarchy thus ceased to be an exclusively British institution, and in Canada became a Canadian establishment,[23] though it is still often misnomered as "British" in both legal and common language,[23] for reasons historical, political, and of convenience; this conflicts with not only the federal and provincial governments' recognition and promotion of a distinctly Canadian Crown,[24][25][26] but also the sovereign's distinct Canadian title, Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom, Canada and Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith.[27]

Effective with the Constitution Act, 1982, no British or other realm government can advise the sovereign on any matters pertinent to Canada,[28] meaning that on all matters of the Canadian state, the monarch is advised solely by Canadian federal Ministers of the Crown.[n 3][29] As the monarch lives predominantly outside of Canada, one of the most important of these state duties carried out on the advice of the Canadian Prime Minister is the appointment of the federal viceroy, who is titled as Governor General, and performs most of the Queen's domestic duties in her absence.

Monarchy of Canada

[Alta4ever]

You seem to forget about the 1910 immigration act ,1914 Naturalization act and the 1921 Canadian Nationals act.

You are just focusing on the 1947 is the Canadian citizenship act.

[whowhere]

Within it it created crowns for the commonwealth countries, That statute created the Canadian crown.

Because the statue of Westminister lives on in the British Parliament what is stopping the British Parliament from revisiting that statue of Westminister, repealing it, and signed off on by the Queen or king.

What will Canada do then? Who will Canada go to then?

[Guest TrueMetis]

To lie is human nature and is violation of the commandments.

Either am I except the part where the human trash is thrown into the furnace of fire where there will be gnashing of teeth and obliterated out of existence. I like the king james there are subtle passages that makes the book cohesive. You come into this world as....and if you are deemed garbage you are expunged accordingly. Believe it or not, makes no difference. I will enter death comforted by this knowledge.

What then? Really, I don't care, you are not my problem, except when you refuse to accept the facts.

You're a creepy person.

[kimmy]

I'm surprised that people are wasting their time talking to this imbecile, when they could be talking about more important things like Take Your Dog To Work Day.

Did you know there's just 215 more days until Take Your Dog To Work Day?

-k

[g_bambino]

Because the statue of Westminister lives on in the British Parliament what is stopping the British Parliament from revisiting that statue of Westminister, repealing it, and signed off on by the Queen or king.

The copy of the Statute of Westminster that exists in Canada.