Handsome Rob Posted November 9, 2011 Report Posted November 9, 2011 Doesn't this speak for itself? CBC - Office of the Ombudsman But there is another significant aspect to our policy. As mentioned, it calls on CBC outlets to touch on the widest range of views possible. On CBCNews.ca, there does not appear to be a wide range of “pointy” views. For instance, many of those who complained claimed that there is no one of an opposite ideological viewpoint readily apparent on the service. Unfortunately, this appears to be true. As I observed in an earlier review concerning CBC Newsworld programming, the CBC should not necessarily avoid having people of strong views on the air, but we must ensure that people of differing views are given a fair opportunity. CBC - Tell us what you think of the CBC The comments are devastating I don't want them to become Sun News Network, but they really ought to carry a few more of Rex's brethren. More than that, the editing staff need better direction. Quote
Shwa Posted November 9, 2011 Report Posted November 9, 2011 Doesn't this speak for itself? CBC - Office of the Ombudsman But there is another significant aspect to our policy. As mentioned, it calls on CBC outlets to touch on the widest range of views possible. On CBCNews.ca, there does not appear to be a wide range of “pointy” views. For instance, many of those who complained claimed that there is no one of an opposite ideological viewpoint readily apparent on the service. Unfortunately, this appears to be true. As I observed in an earlier review concerning CBC Newsworld programming, the CBC should not necessarily avoid having people of strong views on the air, but we must ensure that people of differing views are given a fair opportunity. CBC - Tell us what you think of the CBC The comments are devastating I don't want them to become Sun News Network, but they really ought to carry a few more of Rex's brethren. More than that, the editing staff need better direction. Oh yeah, "devastating" comments by a bunch of cranks. I see how that works. Quote
Handsome Rob Posted November 9, 2011 Report Posted November 9, 2011 Oh yeah, "devastating" comments by a bunch of cranks. I see how that works. The CBC readers are 'a bunch of cranks?' Quote
Shwa Posted November 9, 2011 Report Posted November 9, 2011 The CBC readers are 'a bunch of cranks?' Are they all CBC "readers?" Quote
Black Dog Posted November 9, 2011 Report Posted November 9, 2011 To provide an example to the point August is making... the market "voted" for Apple and Google over Blackberry pretty damn quickly. The problem for the left is that they don't understand the market at all, so there is a disconnect between their social values and the values of the market. Want to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and reduce our dependence on oil? According to many on this board, 60% of Canadians (those who voted NDP/Liberal) believe in this. Then why aren't 60% of Canadians using public transportation or driving a Prius or hybrid? Want to legislate maximum interest rates on credit cards? How about you stop using credit cards? Upset about jobs being shipped overseas? Why don't the "60%" of Canadians who don't believe in globalization only buy Canadian made products and services? Part of the "1%" are on the left as well. If they could manufacture goods and get 60% of Canadians to buy their products, then you could all hold hands and sing kumbaya. The problem with the left is that they think of themselves as a victim of the markets rather than a participant. You are free to buy products or use services from whoever you want, and you are free to invest money in whatever companies shares and bonds you want. If you 60% liberal/ndp voters want to unite and start a Canadian TV manufacturer that only employs Canadians, you can all invest in the IPO/shares, and be consumers buying $5000 TVs instead of Asian made $500 TVs. You have the power to effect change, you just choose not to and want the government to coerce others to change for you. If anyone doesn't understand the market here, it's you. Most people don't have the freedom to make choices that correspond to their ethics. These days especially, most people are just trying to get by. Quote
Handsome Rob Posted November 9, 2011 Report Posted November 9, 2011 Are they all CBC "readers?" Ah, I get it. They registered accounts, then went and posted on dozens of other stories to make it look like they hadn't just registered accounts. Then they cleared cookies hundreds of times to give the disproportionate number of thumbs up, that obviously don't belong. And then to keep up the trick, they continued posting up until current events today, to continue the appearance that they were actually readers for anybody that felt the need to link that article. All in a days work. Quote
Shwa Posted November 9, 2011 Report Posted November 9, 2011 Ah, I get it. They registered accounts, then went and posted on dozens of other stories to make it look like they hadn't just registered accounts. Then they cleared cookies hundreds of times to give the disproportionate number of thumbs up, that obviously don't belong. And then to keep up the trick, they continued posting up until current events today, to continue the appearance that they were actually readers for anybody that felt the need to link that article. All in a days work. Sounds like you are a CBC "reader" too with all the insider information like that. Quote
Handsome Rob Posted November 9, 2011 Report Posted November 9, 2011 Sounds like you are a CBC "reader" too with all the insider information like that. Absolutely. Here's a question; If I said, it's a feasible conclusion to say, 'CBC readers hold Harper in the lowest of regard,' would you take any issue with that? Both conclusions are drawn the same way. Quote
Shwa Posted November 10, 2011 Report Posted November 10, 2011 Absolutely. Here's a question; If I said, it's a feasible conclusion to say, 'CBC readers hold Harper in the lowest of regard,' would you take any issue with that? Both conclusions are drawn the same way. No, I wouldn't believe it if they used the comments section of their news sites to gather information. Would you? Quote
Handsome Rob Posted November 10, 2011 Report Posted November 10, 2011 No, I wouldn't believe it if they used the comments section of their news sites to gather information. Would you? If CBC commenter's are the issue being discussed, then how can the source be anything but the comments section? Quote
Shwa Posted November 10, 2011 Report Posted November 10, 2011 If CBC commenter's are the issue being discussed, then how can the source be anything but the comments section? I suppose the issue is what is the qualification for "reader." One story? Two? Three? Daily news source? Weekly? If I read CBC news solely to criticize the content, am I "reader?" Where a news outlet has enabled commentary, I can comment freely without even reading anything. Heck, I can spend my day simply commenting on all the other comments. And I have seen that happen on some news sites, or so it appeared. So I don't equate commenter with "reader." This link appears to solicit opinion from various sources, but doesn't include the comment section. This link appears to deal with complaints directly sent to the CBC Ombudsman's Office. With regard to the commentary section of the story in question it is noted that, "The response also noted that many people disagreed with Ms. Mallick in the Comments section of the website." This link appears to be a screencap of the comments section. I don't see anywhere in any of those links that the CBC equates the commenters as being "CBC readers." Now perhaps my eyes are tired and I am simply missing it. Could you point it out please? Quote
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