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There was no 'country' of Canada, but Oru history begins in many places throughout the Earth...even since 1867, that's not even a peek at what our history is. Yes, our government is Westminster, but we are a country of many peoples, many voices, and many contributions.

Even so, there was no national government, so of course there were numerous cultures and societies. Yet that is not "our history", that began in 1867, unless of course you are first nations citizens.

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Yet that is not "our history", that began in 1867, unless of course you are first nations citizens.

I disagree. It is very much our history...from the First Nations to the Europeans. It is the history of what brought Canada into being. A country's story doesn't suddenly begin on its birthdate.

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Actually there is evidence that there was Europeans here before that and that the Ojibway are descendants of those people and the people that came over the bearing strait.

No...no there is no evidence of that.

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Though the US federal system of government bears similarities with the Mohawk Federation.

Urban legend.

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There is some evidence for it...especially genetic. Whether or not it is true is unkown and will probably always be unknown.

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I provided evidence.

You provided a press release for a TV drama.

My standard of evidence is a little higher than that.

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The concept of Peace, Welfare and Good Government came from the model of the Iroquois Confederacy. The term "welfare" was co-opted for "Order" by the Victorians...

Ahem... Nobody caught this little gem? Dancer, Argus, you all disappoint me! ;)

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Its a TV drama on Discovery. There is some evidence, but not much. It's an interesting theory.

Discovery also runs specials of Aliens, Roswell, Sasquatch, the Loch Ness Monster, The Bermuda Triangle and anything else that might provide ratings....

There is no evidence that is taken seriously as the foundation of a new theory.

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There is no evidence that is taken seriously as the foundation of a new theory.

None the less, there is some evidence. Europeans were here at least 1000 years ago...despite what most people know. It is not inconcievable that people came from other places in the past. This is not to take away from aboriginal history at all, but there are many things that we are still trying to figure out.

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Ahem... Nobody caught this little gem? Dancer, Argus, you all disappoint me! ;)

I tend to ignore Charter as he is a loon. And yes, welfare is a very old Iroquoise word ....that is still used to this day.....I believe though the root of the native word though is warfare....those is need raid their neighbours, rape and enslave the women and eat the prisoners...

They typically worked 45 days before being qualified to receive warfare payments....

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None the less, there is some evidence. Europeans were here at least 1000 years ago...despite what most people know. It is not inconcievable that people came from other places in the past. This is not to take away from aboriginal history at all, but there are many things that we are still trying to figure out.

Give the archeological evidence that the Amercas were occupied 10-15,000 years before the occupation of Europe, it is more likely that people from here travelled to Europe and parts of Asia and populated those reasons, in addition to the out of Africa migrations.

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We all started with the out of Africa migrations....it doesn't really amtter though...the most important thing is that we're all people...I think. There is simply interesting evidence for many different theories...It's quite facinating the way life evolved on Earth.

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Uh huh....that's not what they teach in...well...anywhere...but you just keep on thinking that.

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I watched the documentary or docudrama in question. I found that the most compelling evidence were the genetic markers. In my view this is the proof needed to document the creation of the first nations peoples of North America. A mixture of European and Asian bloodlines, it all makes sense at this point given that there is no evidence at all of a branch of humanity actually originating here. Africa was the birthplace of humanity, that is a very widely accepted scientific conclusion. From there migrations took place at various times which populated the planet. The one fly in the ointment are the Aborigenies of Australia, but they must have come form somewhere!

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Main Entry: sar·casm

Pronunciation: \ˈsär-ˌka-zəm\

Function: noun

Etymology: French or Late Latin; French sarcasme, from Late Latin sarcasmos, from Greek sarkasmos, from sarkazein to tear flesh, bite the lips in rage, sneer, from sark-, sarx flesh; probably akin to Avestan thwarəs- to cut

Date: 1550

1: a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain

2 a: a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual b: the use or language of sarcasm

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sarcasm

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