KingIggy Posted June 1, 2009 Author Report Posted June 1, 2009 I'm not afraid of my own country.....but you can be if you wish. In the mean time, Canada's economy shrivels in sync with whatever the Americans do...be it consumer or "complex" related. Still waiting for the great PM Eisenhower speech to explain that to the locals.Or we could go back to the good old days of fighting about stumpage fees. LOL! Twit, the Canadian banking system was rated as the world's healthiest (due to longstanding market regulations, oversight, measurement, evaluation, and enforcement) and the more Laissez-Faire, RIGHTWING American one, as one of the most volatile and UNHEALTHY (needing Billions to stay afloat). Again, the Neo-Con REPRESSES the FACTS of REALITY. One reason for the American collapse was NEO-CON ECONOMIC policies (let the market be free to impulsively go wherever the invisible market hand guides it) - one other reason was NEO-CON FOREIGN POLICY (which spends TRILLIONS on the war on terror, the war on drugs, and the entire Pentagon-CIA-FBI-ATF police state - including secret prisons in Eastern Europe) which ALSO facilitated the crashing/trashing of the USA and the world. It's your esteemed Neo-Con policies which caused the global crisis, and now you want Harper to CONTINUE your Neo-Con policies in Canada (careless tax cuts, increased militarism, increased war on drugs, cutting social services, increasing the national debt, behaving like a blind, dogmatic, stubborn, destructive hypocrite drunk on rightwing dogma). Quote
Alta4ever Posted June 1, 2009 Report Posted June 1, 2009 You like to dismiss things which are crucially relevant... typical bull-headed fascist. How many Billions go into funding the American M.I.C. (actually, it's TRILLIONS) ? Again some school aged child that thinks they know what a fascist is, and uses the term to try to silence or make an argument irrelevant. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
KingIggy Posted June 1, 2009 Author Report Posted June 1, 2009 There's very little hope for you....using your logic, Liberals are even a smaller minority. Perhaps you are actually 12 or 13 years old. Liberal-NDP strategic voting will eliminate and fumigate the Neo-Con cult. This means a Liberal minority gov't later this year. Quote
KingIggy Posted June 1, 2009 Author Report Posted June 1, 2009 Some 10 year olds have more wisdom than some that are 40. That's not the point - I believe the point here might be - do we have real conservatism in our nation? Is Harper a representative of some other entity - that is not quite conservatism - nor is it really right wing - or extreme right wing - I am begining to understand that the powers that be and those that might be his puppet masters are not interested in conserving what is great and good - that they are not conservatives but some new beast that does not give a damn about right or left, but plays all sides of the political specturm - and please don't use the term neo-con - that really means nothing - It is supposed to be New Conservatism - attatching the term NEW to conservatism makes no sense - conservatism means old - the old way the way tested by time and practice - reliable and sustaining and "conserving" and protecting what is best in life - what is best for the people of a nation....question - Is the Harper camp really consevative or are they just representatives of big buisness gone international and just using Canada as a base of operations? With no real loyalty to Canada - if that is the case we are better go go with the devil we know - Ignatieff - because apparently I do not know what Harper is about - does anyone truely know? Why did Joe Clark run from the Neo-Con cult of the North ? Because it's the Neo-Con cult of the North. Rational minds escape the glare of Bush-Bot Harper and vote Liberal. A vote for Harper is a vote for slightly softer Bushian/Republican policies... with a deceptive image makeover. http://www.harperindex.ca/ViewArticle.cfm?Ref=0027 http://votestrategic.ca/ownwords.htm Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 1, 2009 Report Posted June 1, 2009 (edited) Twit, the Canadian banking system was rated as the world's healthiest (due to longstanding market regulations, oversight, measurement, evaluation, and enforcement) and the more Laissez-Faire, RIGHTWING American one, as one of the most volatile and UNHEALTHY (needing Billions to stay afloat). Twat, but nobody else gives a shit how healthy the Canadian banking system is. It didn't save automotive jobs in Ontario, it didn't prevent a recession, and it didn't prevent a budget deficit. Again, the Neo-Con REPRESSES the FACTS of REALITY. One reason for the American collapse was NEO-CON ECONOMIC policies (let the market be free to impulsively go wherever the invisible market hand guides it) - one other reason was NEO-CON FOREIGN POLICY (which spends TRILLIONS on the war on terror, the war on drugs, and the entire Pentagon-CIA-FBI-ATF police state - including secret prisons in Eastern Europe) which ALSO facilitated the crashing/trashing of the USA and the world. You forgot the War on Poverty. Go back and Google some more American alphabet soup to help you define where your navel is (for better gazing). It's your esteemed Neo-Con policies which caused the global crisis, and now you want Harper to CONTINUE your Neo-Con policies in Canada (careless tax cuts, increased militarism, increased war on drugs, cutting social services, increasing the national debt, behaving like a blind, dogmatic, stubborn, destructive hypocrite drunk on rightwing dogma). See above.....I don't care because what Canada does is largely irrelevant....whether it be the policies you describe from the Liberal Party of Canada (e.g. Afghanistan) or the Conservatives. Your vaunted heath care system was gutted to balance the budget...guess who did that? Edited June 1, 2009 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
KingIggy Posted June 1, 2009 Author Report Posted June 1, 2009 Again some school aged child that thinks they know what a fascist is, and uses the term to try to silence or make an argument irrelevant. You are an oblivious TWIT not seeing the manifestations of North American Fascism caused by 8 years of Bush + several years of Harper... (the ultra-potent military engaged in preemptive strikes, omnipotent corporations with CEO's writing themselves 30 million dollar bonuses, police relentlessly tasering people, the drug war, rallying the citizenry against foreign threats, appeals to blind-faith nationalism) ... the evidence just doesn't exist to blind rightwingers. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 1, 2009 Report Posted June 1, 2009 You are an oblivious TWIT not seeing the manifestations of North American Fascism caused by 8 years of Bush + several years of Harper... (the ultra-potent military engaged in preemptive strikes, omnipotent corporations with CEO's writing themselves 30 million dollar bonuses, police relentlessly tasering people, the drug war, rallying the citizenry against foreign threats, appeals to blind-faith nationalism) ... the evidence just doesn't exist to blind rightwingers. Hey Einstein, all these things existed before Bush or Harper.....maybe you are only 13 years old. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
KingIggy Posted June 1, 2009 Author Report Posted June 1, 2009 I don't care because Um, you're a blind, rampaging Fascist ? Quote
Alta4ever Posted June 1, 2009 Report Posted June 1, 2009 (edited) Again, the Neo-Con REPRESSES the FACTS of REALITY. One reason for the American collapse was NEO-CON ECONOMIC policies (let the market be free to impulsively go wherever the invisible market hand guides it) - one other reason was NEO-CON FOREIGN POLICY (which spends TRILLIONS on the war on terror, the war on drugs, and the entire Pentagon-CIA-FBI-ATF police state - including secret prisons in Eastern Europe) which ALSO facilitated the crashing/trashing of the USA and the world. America's banking system due to failure to reform the system and bring in proper regulator oversite. Instead of the legacy left by Clinton, and Barney frank. The (Neo cons) or proper term republicans tried on three seperate occasions to bring in regluation to curtail the loose lending habit of both Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, but in all three instances came up against democrat resitance. (apperently they think that every deserves to own a house no matter if they can actually afford it or not). Reality Check the Neo cons or who actually did it (conservatives) reformed the bank act 2 years before the financial crisis averting mucch of what was going to happen to the American counter parts. I think you also needc some schooling on who brought in the police state the fbi started as the secret service in 1908 that was a democrat government. CIA, again a democrat government, and the ATF the template was started in 1919 and that again was a democrat government. Which US government interned thousands of its own citizens during a war because of were they immegrated from? Edited June 1, 2009 by Alta4ever Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 1, 2009 Report Posted June 1, 2009 Um, you're a blind, rampaging Fascist ? Sure..why not....if it makes you pee your pants. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
KingIggy Posted June 1, 2009 Author Report Posted June 1, 2009 Sure..why not....if it makes you pee your pants. Peeing in parts because your party (cult) and ideolgy imploded ? You are dumb and INSANE. Quote
Alta4ever Posted June 1, 2009 Report Posted June 1, 2009 You are an oblivious TWIT not seeing the manifestations of North American Fascism caused by 8 years of Bush + several years of Harper... (the ultra-potent military engaged in preemptive strikes, omnipotent corporations with CEO's writing themselves 30 million dollar bonuses, police relentlessly tasering people, the drug war, rallying the citizenry against foreign threats, appeals to blind-faith nationalism) ... the evidence just doesn't exist to blind rightwingers. North American facsim got its start under woodrow wilson. But apperantly you are oblivious to history before 2000. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 1, 2009 Report Posted June 1, 2009 (edited) Peeing in parts because your party (cult) and ideolgy imploded ?You are dumb and INSANE. Thank you....that's a compliment coming from you. Which other American policy are you a hapless victim of? PS: Iggy is an American! Edited June 1, 2009 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
KingIggy Posted June 1, 2009 Author Report Posted June 1, 2009 America's banking system due to failure to reform the system and brung in proper regulator oversite. Instead of the legacy left by Clinton, and Barney frank. The (Neo cons) or proper term republicans tried on three seperate occasions to bring in regluation to curtail the loose lending habit of both Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, but in all three instances came up against democrat resitance. (apperently they think that every deserves to own a house no matter if they can actually afford it or not).Reality Check the Neo cons or who actually did it (conservatives) reformed the bank act 2 years before the financial crisis averting mucch of what was going to happen to the American counter parts. I think you also needc some schooling on who brought in the police state the fbi started as the secret service in 1908 that was a democrat government. CIA, again a democrat government, and the ATF the template was started in 1919 and that again was a democrat government. Which US government interned thousands of its own citizens during a war because of were they immegrated from? Yeah, Bush's reign of 8 years would have been soooo much better if it wasn't for Clinton. Why do dumb rightwingers constantly try to blame Clinton for everything that goes wrong with their policies ? The Repubs have been 75% of American presidents... and I don't champion Clinto as the epitome of center-left opposition... in fact, Clinton was a economically RIGHTWING according to Canadian and European standards. Twits. Quote
KingIggy Posted June 1, 2009 Author Report Posted June 1, 2009 North American facsim got its start under woodrow wilson. But apperantly you are oblivious to history before 2000. What have Harper and Bush done to curtail Fascism ? Scale back the military ? Inhibit corporate power ? Reduce nationalistic fervor ? Stop contributing to policies which have made the USA the world's leading jailer and torturer ? Twits. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 1, 2009 Report Posted June 1, 2009 What have Harper and Bush done to curtail Fascism ? Scale back the military ? Inhibit corporate power ? Reduce nationalistic fervor ? Stop contributing to policies which have made the USA the world's leading jailer and torturer ? Why would they want to do that? Hell, you can't even vote. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
KingIggy Posted June 1, 2009 Author Report Posted June 1, 2009 Thank you....that's a compliment coming from you.Which other American policy are you a hapless victim of? PS: Iggy is an American! Lol... here we have someone who supported Bush-Cheney, thinks they had a good 8 years, and now wants Canadians to vote for Harper (to continue the Bush-Cheney path up north). Anyone who votes for Harper, will make the Bush-Cheney fan HAPPY. Maybe Iggy is a truly benevolent American-Canadian here to SAVE US FROM NEO-CONSERVATIVE HARPER JUST IN THE NICK OF TIME !!!!!!!!!! Quote
Alta4ever Posted June 1, 2009 Report Posted June 1, 2009 Yeah, Bush's reign of 8 years would have been soooo much better if it wasn't for Clinton.Why do dumb rightwingers constantly try to blame Clinton for everything that goes wrong with their policies ? The Repubs have been 75% of American presidents... and I don't champion Clinto as the epitome of center-left opposition... in fact, Clinton was a economically RIGHTWING according to Canadian and European standards. Twits. You really have problems looking at policy objectively haven't you. Can you see through you blind hate long enough to look at policy? I never said every thing that clinton did was wrong, but they (clinton his advisors, and barnet frank) were very wrong on this account and not only are americans paying dearly for it but so is the rest of the world. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
KingIggy Posted June 1, 2009 Author Report Posted June 1, 2009 Why would they want to do that? Hell, you can't even vote. Attacking the messenger of truth = a kaput Republican party. Quote
Alta4ever Posted June 1, 2009 Report Posted June 1, 2009 Lol... here we have someone who supported Bush-Cheney, thinks they had a good 8 years, and now wants Canadians to vote for Harper (to continue the Bush-Cheney path up north).Anyone who votes for Harper, will make the Bush-Cheney fan HAPPY. Maybe Iggy is a truly benevolent American-Canadian here to SAVE US FROM NEO-CONSERVATIVE HARPER JUST IN THE NICK OF TIME !!!!!!!!!! You know there is a bit of irony in this but Ignatieff supported many bush policies while he claimed to be an American. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
KingIggy Posted June 1, 2009 Author Report Posted June 1, 2009 You really have problems looking at policy objectively haven't you. Can you see through you blind hate long enough to look at policy? I never said every thing that clinton did was wrong, but they (clinton his advisors, and barnet frank) were very wrong on this account and not only are americans paying dearly for it but so is the rest of the world. The Republican (Neo-Conservative) foreign and economic policies are predominantly responsible - the fact that Clinton may have facilitated those policies doesn't excuse the primary blame. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 1, 2009 Report Posted June 1, 2009 Lol... here we have someone who supported Bush-Cheney, thinks they had a good 8 years, and now wants Canadians to vote for Harper (to continue the Bush-Cheney path up north). Canadians can vote for whoever they want....unlike your "fascist" dogma. Anyone who votes for Harper, will make the Bush-Cheney fan HAPPY. Will make Harper fans happy too. Maybe Iggy is a truly benevolent American-Canadian here to SAVE US FROM NEO-CONSERVATIVE HARPER JUST IN THE NICK OF TIME !!!!!!!!!! Monkey see...monkey do. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
KingIggy Posted June 1, 2009 Author Report Posted June 1, 2009 You know there is a bit of irony in this but Ignatieff supported many bush policies while he claimed to be an American. He's moving left now, with a strategic NDP-Liberal coalition. He's SMART. He's seen the truth (the effects of rightwing Republican policies). Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 1, 2009 Report Posted June 1, 2009 He's moving left now, with a strategic NDP-Liberal coalition.He's SMART. SMART A-M-E-R-I-C-A-N He's seen the truth (the effects of rightwing Republican policies). Nope...he's seen the circle jerk under Mr. Dion. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
KingIggy Posted June 1, 2009 Author Report Posted June 1, 2009 Canadians can vote for whoever they want.... Yes, and you want them to vote for militarism, corporatism, the drug war, reduced social safety net, big national debt AKA Harper AKA Republican policies. Quote
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