Wild Bill Posted April 9, 2009 Report Posted April 9, 2009 Societies will come out victorious on crimes only when they will put more pressures on those that are more likely to ever cross the paths of (would-be) criminals than on those that are not. Rifles owners have more chances to cross on their paths (in isolated fields, in practice clubs, etc.) handguns smugglers and potential killers than a non-gun owners. Yeah, right! How many murders and crimes have been committed at a gun club? Tell it to Jane Creba! Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
benny Posted April 10, 2009 Report Posted April 10, 2009 Yeah, right! How many murders and crimes have been committed at a gun club?Tell it to Jane Creba! Jane Creba's life is no more important than the next victim. What you want to be scraped may save the life to this person. Quote
bariboh Posted April 10, 2009 Report Posted April 10, 2009 This seems to be quite a controversial topic (21 pages!). I think there are regional differences at play; owning a gun in urban Toronto is very different from owning a gun in rural Saskatchewan. Quote
tango Posted April 10, 2009 Report Posted April 10, 2009 This seems to be quite a controversial topic (21 pages!). I think there are regional differences at play; owning a gun in urban Toronto is very different from owning a gun in rural Saskatchewan. Absolutely true. But why is it a problem for law-abiding owners to register their guns anywhere? Quote My Canada includes rights of Indigenous Peoples. Love it or leave it, eh! Peace.
noahbody Posted April 10, 2009 Report Posted April 10, 2009 But why is it a problem for law-abiding owners to register their guns anywhere? Why is it a problem to flush billions of taxpayers dollars down the toilet? Quote
Smallc Posted April 10, 2009 Report Posted April 10, 2009 But why is it a problem for law-abiding owners to register their guns anywhere? What does it accomplish? Quote
normanchateau Posted April 10, 2009 Report Posted April 10, 2009 Why is it a problem to flush billions of taxpayers dollars down the toilet? For some reason, Harper has no problem flushing billions of taxpayer dollars down the toilet to arrest and prosecute people for selling or possessing marijuana even though a majority of Canadians want it legalized. Quote
Riverwind Posted April 10, 2009 Report Posted April 10, 2009 For some reason, Harper has no problem flushing billions of taxpayer dollars down the toilet to arrest and prosecute people for selling or possessing marijuana even though a majority of Canadians want it legalized.Complete legalization is not an option because of international agreements. Partial legalization would only exacerbate the crime problems created by the demand. Prosecuting people for possession reduces the demand. Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
tango Posted April 10, 2009 Report Posted April 10, 2009 Complete legalization is not an option because of international agreements. Partial legalization would only exacerbate the crime problems created by the demand. Prosecuting people for possession reduces the demand. Legalization would legalize it, so it would reduce crime ... because it wouldn't be a crime. Regulation is what is needed. And taxes. Quote My Canada includes rights of Indigenous Peoples. Love it or leave it, eh! Peace.
wulf42 Posted April 10, 2009 Author Report Posted April 10, 2009 What does it accomplish? The gun registry was the Liberals attempt at confiscation.........people think it is a simple registry...think again it is more Liberal corruption at its finest!! First register them then they will eventually come and take them! http://www.nraila.org/Issues/Articles/Read...4&issue=006 http://www.spruce.ca/gunctrl.htm Quote
benny Posted April 10, 2009 Report Posted April 10, 2009 Sunk costs cannot be recovered by scraping the registry. Quote
normanchateau Posted April 10, 2009 Report Posted April 10, 2009 Legalization would legalize it, so it would reduce crime ... because it wouldn't be a crime. Regulation is what is needed. And taxes. Marijuana regulation may happen in California before it does in Canada: http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=7814 Harper would rather flush billions down the toilet. Quote
noahbody Posted April 10, 2009 Report Posted April 10, 2009 Sunk costs cannot be recovered by scraping the registry. It will save $25 Million per year. That alone is still sinking $2 Million per long gun homicide. Quote
Smallc Posted April 10, 2009 Report Posted April 10, 2009 The gun registry was the Liberals attempt at confiscation. I've never believed that. It's simply a misguided idea that is supposed to help...but really doesn't do all that much. Quote
noahbody Posted April 10, 2009 Report Posted April 10, 2009 I've never believed that. It's simply a misguided idea that is supposed to help...but really doesn't do all that much. Basically, it allows us to keep statistics. That's it. Quote
Smallc Posted April 10, 2009 Report Posted April 10, 2009 Basically, it allows us to keep statistics. That's it. Pretty much. More than anything, it was a way to make some people feel better. Quote
benny Posted April 10, 2009 Report Posted April 10, 2009 Yeah, right! How many murders and crimes have been committed at a gun club? If no murder has happened at a gun clubs, it is certainly in part because club members share a lot together. Sharing information about what people have in mind is how we prevent crimes. I imagine easily, for instance, a discussion forum full of frustrated gun owners arousing soon-to-be killers to reveal their projects. Quote
Wild Bill Posted April 10, 2009 Report Posted April 10, 2009 If no murder has happened at a gun clubs, it is certainly in part because club members share a lot together. Sharing information about what people have in mind is how we prevent crimes. I imagine easily, for instance, a discussion forum full of frustrated gun owners arousing soon-to-be killers to reveal their projects. Please be sure to board the 'B' Ark! Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
benny Posted April 10, 2009 Report Posted April 10, 2009 Please be sure to board the 'B' Ark! Pro-gun posters here show they don't mind wasting their time, how could they credibly criticize the register for wasting their money? Quote
noahbody Posted April 11, 2009 Report Posted April 11, 2009 If no murder has happened at a gun clubs, it is certainly in part because club members share a lot together. You have to be King of the Trolls. No one can consistently write such stupid posts. Obama would likely bow to you. Quote
benny Posted April 11, 2009 Report Posted April 11, 2009 Get real now! Why rural land owners feel so innocent worldwide? Because they like to forget that, for centuries, they have forced the population to migrate in city ghettos. Quote
Argus Posted April 11, 2009 Report Posted April 11, 2009 I've never believed that. It's simply a misguided idea that is supposed to help...but really doesn't do all that much. Indeed, it was supposed to help - the Liberals get re-elected. It had no other purpose. It still has no other purpose. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted April 11, 2009 Report Posted April 11, 2009 Apparently a lot of people who claim they won't kill anybody with their weapons nonetheless are unwilling to register theirs either. Why is that? Cause it's a waste of time and costs them money? Maybe? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted April 11, 2009 Report Posted April 11, 2009 Pro-gun posters here show they don't mind wasting their time, how could they credibly criticize the register for wasting their money? You have misapprehended the sides here. It's is not pro-gun vs anti-gun. I, for example, do not own a gun, and probably will never own a gun. The argument is between pro-gun + smart people... against the anti-gun people + stupid people. Glad to be of assistance. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
benny Posted April 11, 2009 Report Posted April 11, 2009 You have misapprehended the sides here. It's is not pro-gun vs anti-gun. I, for example, do not own a gun, and probably will never own a gun.The argument is between pro-gun + smart people... against the anti-gun people + stupid people. Glad to be of assistance One doesn't need to own a gun to be pro-gun. Quote
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