Canapathy Posted March 15, 2009 Report Posted March 15, 2009 The massive power wielded by a few Christian leaders in the US is truly frightening. Leaders of enormous Christian groups use their power to inflict their will upon corporations and politicians. The cult like power those like Pat Robertson have over their mindless sheep far surpasses that held by union and world leaders (even Obama) alike. The problem arises when this American Taliban (borrowed from Dawkins) uses its power to assault gender equality (1), sexual orientation, science (2), reason and progress itself. The fact that these groups are highly organized and have such extreme power over their flocks makes them a serious force for good but far to often for evil as well. So what do we do about these evil organizations? The obvious answer is that moderates have to unite and organize...but it is much harder to coalesce those that think for themselves. Check out the link below. The fact that so many people ignore evidence and reason in this day an age simply amazes me. (1) Pat Robertson Quotes: "(T)he feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians." "I know this is painful for the ladies to hear, but if you get married, you have accepted the headship of a man, your husband. Christ is the head of the household and the husband is the head of the wife, and that's the way it is, period." (2) Christianity's assault on science and natural selection - http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg1662...-selection.html Quote
Melanie_ Posted March 15, 2009 Report Posted March 15, 2009 (1) Pat Robertson Quotes: "(T)he feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians." And we kick puppies, too. Quote For to be free is not merely to cast off one's chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others. Nelson Mandela
Oleg Bach Posted March 15, 2009 Report Posted March 15, 2009 There are no Christians in the United States Of America - if there were you would befriend the good and not attack these phonies..but if the Christ himself were to fall from the sky tomorrow the first thing he would do is cause bolts of lightning to come down on every last liar that has twisted and warped the real doctrine into a messy caldron of quarter truths and down right lies...YES as far as being fanatic - these supposed Christians are the Taliban ------for instance both the Taliban and the Christians who state they are ready to murder in the name of GOD are both - infidels! IF GOD is THE ALL MIGHTY...Then real logic dictates that anyone who believes that GOD needs help - is calling GOD weak - hence not all mighty - end of story...liars - and most do not have a clue what or who Mohamid or Jesus was or what they stood for...This is actually occultism - I mean look at the evangelists - they all look like demons ----so I trust my God given perception and eyes - if it looks screwy and evil - it is - and they are.. Quote
Canapathy Posted March 15, 2009 Author Report Posted March 15, 2009 And we kick puppies, too. I think Pat thought about including that in his speech but didn`t want to cross the line. Quote
Melanie_ Posted March 15, 2009 Report Posted March 15, 2009 IF GOD is THE ALL MIGHTY...Then real logic dictates that anyone who believes that GOD needs help - is calling GOD weak - hence not all mighty - I've noticed a group demonstrating outside the Women's Hospital in Winnipeg for the past week or two. They are having 40 days of prayer for God to end abortion. Every time I pass them, and see their signs "Pray to end abortion", I wonder about their God. Do they think he needs a certain quota of prayers before he'll do something? If he wants to end abortion, why does he need anyone to ask him to do so? Is he sitting up on his majestic throne, thinking, "yes, I really want to end abortion, but not enough people have asked me yet." Doesn't it seem just a bit arrogant to be telling god what to do? The logic escapes me... if god is the almighty, as you say, he doesn't need anyone's advice. Quote For to be free is not merely to cast off one's chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others. Nelson Mandela
Oleg Bach Posted March 15, 2009 Report Posted March 15, 2009 And we kick puppies, too. That's not nice...You have to wait for them to become full grown large dogs - and the one that attempts to bite you - you kick that one - once - just to let it know who the top dog really is...but doggie lover would rather have the dog rule. To give crediblity to a person who screams the name Jesus like a nut - is worth one small kick. Dogs are dogs and humans are humans - warped forms of Christianity bring humans down to the levels of dogs - not up to the level of gods as God had expected. Did you know that BOB spelled backwards is god...hummm...could never get that right. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 15, 2009 Report Posted March 15, 2009 ...So what do we do about these evil organizations? The obvious answer is that moderates have to unite and organize...but it is much harder to coalesce those that think for themselves. Check out the link below. The fact that so many people ignore evidence and reason in this day an age simply amazes me. 'Tis neither new or remarkable in American history. It's a First Amendment thang........another brand of "evil" is just more of the same. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
M.Dancer Posted March 15, 2009 Report Posted March 15, 2009 I've noticed a group demonstrating outside the Women's Hospital in Winnipeg for the past week or two. They are having 40 days of prayer for God to end abortion. Every time I pass them, and see their signs "Pray to end abortion", I wonder about their God. Do they think he needs a certain quota of prayers before he'll do something? If he wants to end abortion, why does he need anyone to ask him to do so? Is he sitting up on his majestic throne, thinking, "yes, I really want to end abortion, but not enough people have asked me yet." Doesn't it seem just a bit arrogant to be telling god what to do? The logic escapes me... if god is the almighty, as you say, he doesn't need anyone's advice. I'm pretty sure there is reasonable theologocsl arguments explaining why prayer is wanted, but your questions are indeed funny. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
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