Oleg Bach Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 There must be codes of conduct and rule of law if a nation is to continue to be great. The code of ethics that once existed in The United States Of America is buried under the dust of corruption, it has been for a very long time. Now we see the end results of poor behaviour. Economic and soon to be social collapse may be closer than we think. Now from the cynics point of view : America has a very very high standard of common conduct. They maintain the highest code of moral pinciple in the world. They are respected and held in the highest regard by all other people though out the world. It is well know that they are granted great privledge and creditation because of the upholding of these lofty standards. We all firmly understand and believe it to be true that our American bretheren have a powerful and unwavering sense of what is right! Okay ---------------believe that if you will and must for the sake of your own comfort. Now this is what I really see. They as we do pay homage to failed corporations and this payment in the form of bail outs indicates that they are in allegiance with these corporate head and their minions. The government sends tribute to the poorly behaved and they grant honor and privledge to those that have no concept or care for the meaning and implimentation of honor. Their government grants credit to those who have never had crediblity to begin with. There is a strong and stubborn allegiance with a few top industrial dogs but do not have allieship with the common citizen. There is one reason why America and most of the western world is in this fix - It is because they have abandoned honor along with loyality, grace and nobiltity. Instead of revoking the privledge of those who abused it they grant more and more to those that had no honor - to the sloth like - to the delluded and greedy - who will never change. After 8 years of inept rule by the former administration that attempted to control a nation through high and complex deception, the nation has been brought to it's kness. If you look at the language and understand it's meaning - the term LIE - and the word DECEPTION - Literally means "To drag down" - and yes they dragged the whole nation down as they decended to a level that even the mythical Satan who at least plays by the rules wanted nothing to do with it. They the powers that be know that they can not take it with them - so they attempt to take a nation with them as they end their horrific careers...It's like a mad man who comes to the end of his rope and wants the sick satisfaction and escape of death - but insists on taking as many with him as possible - I suggest that those that damaged this great nation - age and fade - and leave alone with nothing - the same way they came in - at least they may taste honor once in their miserable lives. I wish they would spare us the suffering of sympathetic union the rat bags that now beg for mercy and expect it as if they deserve it - Those that did not have honor - shall recieve what they deserve - NOTHING. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 (edited) After 8 years of inept rule by the former administration that attempted to control a nation through high and complex deception, the nation has been brought to it's kness.....If you look at the language and understand it's meaning - the term LIE - and the word DECEPTION - Literally means "To drag down" - and yes they dragged the whole nation down as they decended to a level that even the mythical Satan who at least plays by the rules wanted nothing to do with it. So are you saying everything was on the up and up before 2001? This seems to contradict your general manifesto. As for "lying"....there is delicious irony in your choice compared to the previous American administrations. If you want to spit on your lying "neighbour", just do it without picking favorites. Or is it that you are only upset because your golden goose has stopped laying eggs? Or laying the kind of eggs you don't like? Edited February 22, 2009 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Oleg Bach Posted February 22, 2009 Author Report Posted February 22, 2009 So are you saying everything was on the up and up before 2001? This seems to contradict your general manifesto.As for "lying"....there is delicious irony in your choice compared to the previous American administrations. If you want to spit on your lying "neighbour", just do it without picking favorites. Or is it that you are only upset because your golden goose has stopped laying egges? My goose laid eggs you can eat - there goose laid eggs that sit in the pit of the stomach and offer nothing but discomfort. Of couse I know these problems took many administrations to manifest. AND don't refere to my post as a "manifesto" I am not some damned idealog or a Carl frinkin Marx! Idealist perhaps - ideal situations must at least be attempted - but most do not make the attempt. As for spitting...it's more like a huge vomit power projection.... I don't know why you are so insulted when I mention the truth - That you can not have trade or commerce without laying it down on a foundation of reality - fidelity ----HONOR. I am not upset - I really don't give a damn if you all trod into an earthly hell with your proud heads held high as your ass burns...My mother used to have an old Russian saying ---- The man knows no shame - you can piss in his face and he will tell you it is heavenly rain blessing him" CONTRADICTION! Come now my friend - you are looking for a route of escape with that feeble defense - go head - take your exit --- you are free to go...Let those that can maintain a sytem base on reality - on third dimensional physics --- the world is real and we live within the bounds of matter - and to para phrase Lincoln --- You can fool most of them for a long time but not for ever --- the illusion breaks -- and it did. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 My goose laid eggs you can eat - there goose laid eggs that sit in the pit of the stomach and offer nothing but discomfort. Of couse I know these problems took many administrations to manifest. AND don't refere to my post as a "manifesto" I am not some damned idealog or a Carl frinkin Marx! Idealist perhaps - ideal situations must at least be attempted - but most do not make the attempt. Your post, in concert with many others, is a manifesto whether you like it or not. We all have mini-manifestos in word and deed. Focusing on any "administration" is a fool's chore...America is much more than that....and the same as it ever was. As for spitting...it's more like a huge vomit power projection.... I don't know why you are so insulted when I mention the truth - That you can not have trade or commerce without laying it down on a foundation of reality - fidelity ----HONOR. I am not upset - I really don't give a damn if you all trod into an earthly hell with your proud heads held high as your ass burns... Then why post at all? I know it is still cold and boring there.....maybe that's it. My mother used to have an old Russian saying ---- The man knows no shame - you can piss in his face and he will tell you it is heavenly rain blessing him" CONTRADICTION! Russian sayings haven't done much for Russians....the place still sucks compared to a "falling" America. Come now my friend - you are looking for a route of escape with that feeble defense - go head - take your exit --- you are free to go...Let those that can maintain a sytem base on reality - on third dimensional physics --- the world is real and we live within the bounds of matter - and to para phrase Lincoln --- You can fool most of them for a long time but not for ever --- the illusion breaks -- and it did. Just as it did in the 70's and 80's. So? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Oleg Bach Posted February 22, 2009 Author Report Posted February 22, 2009 Your post, in concert with many others, is a manifesto whether you like it or not. We all have mini-manifestos in word and deed. Focusing on any "administration" is a fool's chore...America is much more than that....and the same as it ever was.Then why post at all? I know it is still cold and boring there.....maybe that's it. Russian sayings haven't done much for Russians....the place still sucks compared to a "falling" America. Just as it did in the 70's and 80's. So? What powerful wizards you are. I get it --- you figure you can pull it off one more time --- as for insulting my ancestors --- remember one thing - Russia was not always "soviet" - It is a very old culture --- Ivan the Terrible was a nice man....other than mass impalings to keep order and to amuse himself. I really have no connection with Russia - They are not my people - and I am a man without a nation....Just giving some advice my friend.... You know that a bit of dishonor and deception make the capitalist clock tick - that's exceptable in small doses - But you guys over dosed. Not picking on you ---- America has to realize what they did wrong before you can get right ---- imagine a jerk who continues to say he is just fine and always right - but fails because he is on the wrong course - This example stressed the fact you need to set up a code of behaviour again...is that to severe to suggest...The rest of the world may love you again - and you will prosper again...Look at the CIA - they can not gather information from informants because they screwed everyone ..now no one is talking. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 What powerful wizards you are. I get it --- you figure you can pull it off one more time --- as for insulting my ancestors --- remember one thing - Russia was not always "soviet" - It is a very old culture --- Ivan the Terrible was a nice man....other than mass impalings to keep order and to amuse himself. That's OK...your reaction is perfectly normal when faced with an "insult"....see how that works in reverse? I really have no connection with Russia - They are not my people - and I am a man without a nation....Just giving some advice my friend.... You know that a bit of dishonor and deception make the capitalist clock tick - that's exceptable in small doses - But you guys over dosed. But that is what America has always been...a huge overdose. Canada eats it up...even vicariously. Not picking on you ---- America has to realize what they did wrong before you can get right ---- imagine a jerk who continues to say he is just fine and always right - but fails because he is on the wrong course - This example stressed the fact you need to set up a code of behaviour again...is that to severe to suggest... Go ahead and pick away...I love a good keyboard dust-up. Remember...it is you leering our way....again. Most Americans don't know and don't care what Canada does....I am the exception. The rest of the world may love you again - and you will prosper again...Look at the CIA - they can not gather information from informants because they screwed everyone ..now no one is talking. That's why they use Predators and just blow them up. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Oleg Bach Posted February 22, 2009 Author Report Posted February 22, 2009 That's OK...your reaction is perfectly normal when faced with an "insult"....see how that works in reverse?But that is what America has always been...a huge overdose. Canada eats it up...even vicariously. Go ahead and pick away...I love a good keyboard dust-up. Remember...it is you leering our way....again. Most Americans don't know and don't care what Canada does....I am the exception. That's why they use Predators and just blow them up. My manifesto was actually meant for international comsumption. Greed is good...right ---- I say it's a form of mental illness..Imagine a huge hog about 800 lbs of pork..It is at a trough eating - it's stomach is bloated - it is craping half digested food in a steady stream - it is eating and vomiting at the same time --- I would say that the pig in really not a healthy living organism. BC - I may seem to have directed my spew southward but it is meant for our guys also...The Obama factor might just pacify for a month or so...but it will not do much to improve your lot -----so don't come a knocking for real cash when your paper starts to rot and the digits no longer didge. It will happen - I firmly believe that reality is more powerful than illusion....Here catch this big rock....It's real. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted February 22, 2009 Author Report Posted February 22, 2009 My manifesto was actually meant for international comsumption. Greed is good...right ---- I say it's a form of mental illness..Imagine a huge hog about 800 lbs of pork..It is at a trough eating - it's stomach is bloated - it is craping half digested food in a steady stream - it is eating and vomiting at the same time --- I would say that the pig in really not a healthy living organism. BC - I may seem to have directed my spew southward but it is meant for our guys also...The Obama factor might just pacify for a month or so...but it will not do much to improve your lot -----so don't come a knocking for real cash when your paper starts to rot and the digits no longer didge. It will happen - I firmly believe that reality is more powerful than illusion....Here catch this big rock....It's real. Oh yes - the Preditor...should I get an umbrella and take cold showers before I go out.....I piss you off by calling you dishonorable and now you want to get rid of the kid that states "The King has no clothes"??? Hey go easy on me - I did not declare war - do you see a formal declaration? oooooops forgot you don't use those anymore.. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 My manifesto was actually meant for international comsumption. Greed is good...right ---- I say it's a form of mental illness..Imagine a huge hog about 800 lbs of pork..It is at a trough eating - it's stomach is bloated - it is craping half digested food in a steady stream - it is eating and vomiting at the same time --- I would say that the pig in really not a healthy living organism. Actually, we would give such a huge boar a big blue ribbon at the state fair. You should see the size of his balls! BC - I may seem to have directed my spew southward but it is meant for our guys also...The Obama factor might just pacify for a month or so...but it will not do much to improve your lot -----so don't come a knocking for real cash when your paper starts to rot and the digits no longer didge. It will happen - I firmly believe that reality is more powerful than illusion....Here catch this big rock....It's real. Fine by me....I am a big fan of reality. It's just funny that the "spew" comes from the nation first in line to feel the burn even as they spew. I guess you can't live with us...can't live without us. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Oleg Bach Posted February 22, 2009 Author Report Posted February 22, 2009 Actually, we would give such a huge boar a big blue ribbon at the state fair. You should see the size of his balls! Fine by me....I am a big fan of reality. It's just funny that the "spew" comes from the nation first in line to feel the burn even as they spew. I guess you can't live with us...can't live without us. Another peev while I am at it -- about 3 years ago I rented an old estate - a pristine Victorian farm house..with groves of 150 year old black walnut trees - beautiful experence -- one summer in broad daylight - Three unmarked choppers blasted by at tree level - I mean fast and low - they were American - we don't have those babies....did you get permission or do you do this stuff to insult us.. And no I am not part of the black helicopter foil hat set. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 Oh yes - the Preditor...should I get an umbrella and take cold showers before I go out.....I piss you off by calling you dishonorable and now you want to get rid of the kid that states "The King has no clothes"??? Hey go easy on me - I did not declare war - do you see a formal declaration? oooooops forgot you don't use those anymore.. Good...your memory is coming back.....America is the same as it ever was. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Oleg Bach Posted February 22, 2009 Author Report Posted February 22, 2009 Good...your memory is coming back.....America is the same as it ever was. Why do I hear a song...is this our first fight? Can't wait for sissy boy to explain the next vexation I have over your rudeness. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 Why do I hear a song...is this our first fight? Can't wait for sissy boy to explain the next vexation I have over your rudeness. It's just part of the same package. People who pretend that America was ever anything different are just fooling themselves. America is not required to live up to your expectations.....it doesn't even live up to many American expectations. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Oleg Bach Posted February 22, 2009 Author Report Posted February 22, 2009 It's just part of the same package. People who pretend that America was ever anything different are just fooling themselves. America is not required to live up to your expectations.....it doesn't even live up to many American expectations. Softening your defensive stance are we? - so there is hope. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 Another peev while I am at it -- about 3 years ago I rented an old estate - a pristine Victorian farm house..with groves of 150 year old black walnut trees - beautiful experence -- one summer in broad daylight - Three unmarked choppers blasted by at tree level - I mean fast and low - they were American - we don't have those babies....did you get permission or do you do this stuff to insult us.. And no I am not part of the black helicopter foil hat set. Maybe they were Russian! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 Softening your defensive stance are we? - so there is hope. No way...bring it. Give me your best "moral" outrage so I can cynically laugh. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Oleg Bach Posted February 22, 2009 Author Report Posted February 22, 2009 Maybe they were Russian! You never fail...what did you do run into the kitchen and guzzel a glass of Jack to come up with that one? I guess we won't be talking about those friendly intrusions...the Predator comment did give me a bit of a chill.....How would you explain my absense and the big hole in the ground where my car used to be - the car that looks just like yours... Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 (edited) You never fail...what did you do run into the kitchen and guzzel a glass of Jack to come up with that one? I guess we won't be talking about those friendly intrusions...the Predator comment did give me a bit of a chill.....How would you explain my absense and the big hole in the ground where my car used to be - the car that looks just like yours... I use a Seinfeld set-up.....lay the foundation throughout the thread and then trace back to the beginning for the punchline. Very effective. As for your naivete...it is cute...but nothing should surprise you at this stage in life. Edited February 22, 2009 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Oleg Bach Posted February 22, 2009 Author Report Posted February 22, 2009 I use a Seinfeld set-up.....lay the foundation throughout the thread and then trace back to the beginning for the punchline. Very effective. As for your naivete...it is cute...but nothing should surprise you at this stage in life. Seinfeld writing is great - love the one where he is jealous of a sales clerk and wants to return a jacket out of "spite" "Sir you can not return merchandise out of spite" - "Yes I can" - they are very clever an likeable..I have always had a naive streak - my parents were very protective of us as children - once mamma the patriach died - (she never taught us to protect ourselves - because she like to hord the authority and power) _ our little empire collapsed - I did not realize there were so many predators in the world - we were old school - you did not undermine or covet - we never would think of such a thing - I don't like it but I am learning - to survive you must understand the worst parts of human nature. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 Seinfeld writing is great - love the one where he is jealous of a sales clerk and wants to return a jacket out of "spite" "Sir you can not return merchandise out of spite" - "Yes I can" - they are very clever an likeable "Seinfeld" is a free education for any stand-up comic...especially timing. Brilliant. I did not realize there were so many predators in the world - we were old school - you did not undermine or covet - we never would think of such a thing - I don't like it but I am learning - to survive you must understand the worst parts of human nature. I never did like bullshit fairy tales...I learned early on that "exotic dancer" means "stripper"....with the smell of booze and cigarettes. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Oleg Bach Posted February 22, 2009 Author Report Posted February 22, 2009 "Seinfeld" is a free education for any stand-up comic...especially timing. Brilliant.I never did like bullshit fairy tales...I learned early on that "exotic dancer" means "stripper"....with the smell of booze and cigarettes. You are an entertainer at heart just like your old man - my mother was a great preformer ----------now so much for your clever diversion -----------what about the FACT that America has lost the bit of honor they had ---- what are they going to do about THAT deficit?...............strippers -----------I used to pay them to go away...ill spent inheritence --- I learned late that some are bought and some are sold... this goes for all commodity - there is no selling of real product - humanity is sold back and forth - example - when you owe China a bundle - you trade in people (slaves) and we sold out ours.....so...maybe you should go outside and check it out techno boy - the graphics are fantasitic..maybe follow the lady joggers with the sun glasses on your mountain bike? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 ---------what about the FACT that America has lost the bit of honor they had ---- what are they going to do about THAT deficit? What about it? Was America honorable througout the 19th and 20th centuries? Yours is just another bit of selective history. ...............strippers -----------I used to pay them to go away...ill spent inheritence --- I learned late that some are bought and some are sold... this goes for all commodity - there is no selling of real product - humanity is sold back and forth - Most are just women trying to get by...feed their kids...pay for school....etc. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Oleg Bach Posted February 22, 2009 Author Report Posted February 22, 2009 What about it? Was America honorable througout the 19th and 20th centuries? Yours is just another bit of selective history.Most are just women trying to get by...feed their kids...pay for school....etc. Some become addicted to the power ....some get addicted to the coke - and some are real nice honest girls that you would love to take home to meet the kids - but the kids call them whores - some are some are not....Yes my friend I realize that it has always been this way...19th and 20th - but as I said before - even the most stupid (evil) has to at least try to rise up out of the animalistic gutter...you just can't blindly except things as "this is the way it is" - If everybody did that we would be living in a sulphur filled volcano with a bitter bloated and drunk William Shatner as god.. Been fun and it looks like Sunday is not a good matinee` day at Mapleslrupage. pawn. Yah Shatner - he started yelling at the principles right after taking it out on me the day player --- that was years ago - he was attempting to produce and direct - no people skills - It was odd to have Captain Kirk foaming at the mouth and screaming at me for missing my mark...18 years on set - what started off as a ruse - fed my kids. It was a waste of time - but what I learned was not to take humans as idols. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted February 22, 2009 Author Report Posted February 22, 2009 Some become addicted to the power ....some get addicted to the coke - and some are real nice honest girls that you would love to take home to meet the kids - but the kids call them whores - some are some are not....Yes my friend I realize that it has always been this way...19th and 20th - but as I said before - even the most stupid (evil) has to at least try to rise up out of the animalistic gutter...you just can't blindly except things as "this is the way it is" - If everybody did that we would be living in a sulphur filled volcano with a bitter bloated and drunk William Shatner as god.. Been fun and it looks like Sunday is not a good matinee` day at Mapleslrupage. pawn. Yah Shatner - he started yelling at the principles right after taking it out on me the day player --- that was years ago - he was attempting to produce and direct - no people skills - It was odd to have Captain Kirk foaming at the mouth and screaming at me for missing my mark...18 years on set - what started off as a ruse - fed my kids. It was a waste of time - but what I learned was not to take humans as idols. And with that we return to the Obama factor - honorable or not it does not matter...Bush actually had a good heart and if allowed to use it - would have been a fine pres...but...they are trained from childhood to control the unwashed as they wet fart their way into history. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 Yes my friend I realize that it has always been this way...19th and 20th - but as I said before - even the most stupid (evil) has to at least try to rise up out of the animalistic gutter...you just can't blindly except things as "this is the way it is" - If everybody did that we would be living in a sulphur filled volcano with a bitter bloated and drunk William Shatner as god..... What makes you think you're not. I will be convinced of your sincerity when you finish what the Hippies started.....seems they all sold out too. ...."Like a Sunday in TJ......it's cheap but it's not free..." Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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