Oleg Bach Posted February 20, 2009 Report Posted February 20, 2009 To be called a professional whore for supporting Israel is a mis-nomer. To do a favour as a whore in professional capaicty - to fit the criterium a whore must be paid. Israel does not pay...so maybe foolish slut would have been more appropriate? Quote
eyeball Posted February 20, 2009 Report Posted February 20, 2009 Swing and a miss. WP isn't used to kill people, althiough it can.... Okay so people kill people, so what? Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Oleg Bach Posted February 20, 2009 Report Posted February 20, 2009 Okay so people kill people, so what? It's not good. Quote
Argus Posted February 21, 2009 Report Posted February 21, 2009 From Jason Kenney's actual statement for those who care. Our government takes a zero-tolerance approach to expressions of anti-Semitism in the public square. There are organizations in Canada that express hateful sentiments, but expect to be treated as respectable interlocutors in the public discourse. I think, for example, of the president of an organization called the Canadian Islamic Congress, Mohamed Elmasry, who notoriously said three years ago on live television that all Israelis over the age of 18 can legitimately be killed. They are combatants, he said, and therefore legitimate targets for elimination. I think as well of the leader of the Canadian Arab Federation, who notoriously circulated an e-mail when Bob Rae was running for the leadership of his party, calling on people to vote against Mr. Rae because of Arlene Perly Rae's involvement in Canada's Jewish community. Just last week, the same individual and organization circulated videos which included the inculcation to hatred of children by organizations such as Hamas and Islamic Jihad. The New Anti-Semitism Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Oleg Bach Posted February 21, 2009 Report Posted February 21, 2009 Why is everyone bothered by a dishouring word such as WHORE? Do they actually have honour to be insulted? Whoredom is normal and exceptable these days. Sitting in a court room I over heard a client say to his lawyer "I caught her in bed with my neighbour twice and now she is living with him and I have to send money to her and him - why? The lawyer takes him aside and informs him of the new social values that are in place - that are excepted as normal by the courts. That adultery - betrayal and loss of faith in a spouse for no good reason is not a defence in so far as who gets what. That it is not an issue of who is bad and who is good or who is morally entitled. So the poor man sees a picture in his head - Of his wife preforming falatio on the intruding and corrupt neighbour - and her free hand out stretched waiting for the payment for the legitimate husband - Payment for being a whore. Times have changed - To call someone a whore may hurt their feelings...and for that you may have to pay double. Loyalty and morality are no longer at issue - We have a sytem now that if you stand up in righteous indignation and demand your rights when offended - You are considered evil and not going with the politically correct flow - so whore is now a re-vised word that has been changed too imply - innocense - much like the schooling system that gives a passing grade to utter failures - this is equlity and utlitarian socialism at its best - There is no good and evil ----- "It's all good" Quote
M.Dancer Posted February 21, 2009 Report Posted February 21, 2009 Okay so people kill people, so what? So why drum up pseudo outrage from the other pseudo concerned over a too used primarily to help avoid getting your peoples arses shot off. I mean, aside from that fact it's Jews using it, no one gives a damn. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Oleg Bach Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 So why drum up pseudo outrage from the other pseudo concerned over a too used primarily to help avoid getting your peoples arses shot off.I mean, aside from that fact it's Jews using it, no one gives a damn. How many fundamentalist Christians who believe in some very strange things actually support the actions of Israel --- fools who do not recognise the changes that have taken place in regards to the secularization of Israel...that it is not what they think it is. These idiot condone the actions of Israel without thinking - right or wrong. Then there are the mammonists who wrongly suck up to the Jews believing in some comspiracy that they control the international banking system - and don't want to offend them because of some unfounded fear that you may go on to the black list and be made poor by the all powerful Jews. This is the second set of idots --- and then there are the ones who know what is happening - that Israel to some is a well placed irritant who's purpose it to keep the middle east pliable and destablized - These are the pragmatic ammoralist buisness guys...The whole thing is very confused - Jews are just like us...people who get jerked around and can not get the chain off their necks. Quote
tango Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 Hmmm. Are you talking about Belinda? And what do you call a guy who couldn't satisfy her so she had to cross the floor to find a real man, and the best the scorned lover could come up with was calling her a dog? Not to worry though, he shacked up with the daughter of the Power family, and $ 20,000.00 later, he was whistling dixie. All of this is totally irrelevant. I don't like Belinda or Peter MacKay. They're both flakes. The 'whore' reference was right from the headline in my paper, and it made me laugh. It also made me read the rest of the article and I was no longer laughing. Kenney postures during a convention where the topic is making any criticism of Israel a hate crime and anti-semitism; and threatens to revoke the funding of an Arab-Canadian group. He didn't mention that of the half million dollars, only 5% went to the Arab communities. That wouldn't make him 'the man' and the high fives would be barely low twos. (I need just one to show him how I really feel) If he thinks I'm going to shake in my boots for calling the Israeli Defense Forces and Hamas, Terrorist groups, who are using innocent civilians to further their cause, I'll call him worse things than a 'whore'. In fact, he'll have nothing left to sell. Listen to me talkin' tough. I might just email him to see if I can get on a list. I'd like to be on a list. You GO pt! Did you get on the list? The federation received a $447,297 contribution from Kenney's department to operate a settlement program in Toronto for two years, teaching new immigrants language and job searching skills. Ok ... so Kenney is suggesting that these immigrants are somehow worthy of less settlement support, because somebody insulted Jason Kenney? I think he's just a little carried away with himself. All politicians are professional whores, ffs! What's the big deal? Quote My Canada includes rights of Indigenous Peoples. Love it or leave it, eh! Peace.
eyeball Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 So why drum up pseudo outrage from the other pseudo concerned over a too used primarily to help avoid getting your peoples arses shot off.I mean, aside from that fact it's Jews using it, no one gives a damn. Drumming up outrage certainly doesn't help anyone alright, no matter who does it. Assuming you give a damn you might want to take a clue. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Progressive Tory Posted February 24, 2009 Author Report Posted February 24, 2009 (edited) You really do have a problem with not distorting stories about Jews, don't you? The Israel/Palestinian conflict has nothing to do with 'Jews'. Criticism of Israeli aggression is not anti semitism. Criticism of Hamas is not Islamophobia. This is a war with both sides using innocent civilians to promote their cause. I protest war, not Jews or Muslims. As a Canadian I should have the right to do that without being accused of a hate crime. This is not a partisan issue because the ridiculous convention was the brainchild of a Liberal and is supported by many different Parties from Parliamentary systems. I'm thinking of taking up a collection to buy Kenney a one way ticket to Palestine. Then when he's getting shot at and asks Israel to stop, I'm going to accuse of being anti-semite. They are 'holy' bullets going in to his behind and killing the children next to him. He told us so. Edited February 24, 2009 by Progressive Tory Quote "For all our modesty and self-deprecation, we’re a people who dream great dreams. And then roll up our sleeves and turn them into realities." - Michael Ignatieff "I would not want the Prime Minister to think that he could simply fail in the House of Commons as a route to another General Election. That's not the way our system works." Stephen Harper.
Progressive Tory Posted February 24, 2009 Author Report Posted February 24, 2009 To be called a professional whore for supporting Israel is a mis-nomer. To do a favour as a whore in professional capaicty - to fit the criterium a whore must be paid. Israel does not pay...so maybe foolish slut would have been more appropriate? Somehow thinking of Kenney as a slut makes me feel a little icky, imagining what kind of people would pay him for it. The 'whore' simply implies that he can be bought. Quote "For all our modesty and self-deprecation, we’re a people who dream great dreams. And then roll up our sleeves and turn them into realities." - Michael Ignatieff "I would not want the Prime Minister to think that he could simply fail in the House of Commons as a route to another General Election. That's not the way our system works." Stephen Harper.
M.Dancer Posted February 24, 2009 Report Posted February 24, 2009 The Israel/Palestinian conflict has nothing to do with 'Jews'. Is there no bottom to your stupidity? Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
M.Dancer Posted February 24, 2009 Report Posted February 24, 2009 Is there no bottom to your stupidity? I will clarify The Tamil -Sinhalese conflict has nothing to do with jews........which is why none of the usual suspects have even mentioned it. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Argus Posted February 24, 2009 Report Posted February 24, 2009 The Israel/Palestinian conflict has nothing to do with 'Jews'. Criticism of Israeli aggression is not anti semitism. Criticism of Hamas is not Islamophobia. And yet, none of your crowd EVER starts a thread to criticise Hamas - or any other Arab state. None of you join in the ones where others criticse them either except to try and criticise Isreal or the west instead. Start a topic critical of some Muslim country or Islam, and guaranteed, all the usual suspects who are always bleating about Israel will show up - none of them joining in the criticism of the Muslim country or Islam. All of them trying to instead suggest that the US, or Christianity, or Israel are as bad or worse in order to draw attention back to their one-trick-pony topic. I'm thinking of taking up a collection to buy Kenney a one way ticket to Palestine.] I'm thinking you're too intellectually lazy to have bothered to read any of what Kenney actually said even though I posted it in this topic. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
eyeball Posted February 24, 2009 Report Posted February 24, 2009 And yet, none of your crowd EVER starts a thread to criticise Hamas Ahem...excuse me but, EVER? Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Argus Posted February 24, 2009 Report Posted February 24, 2009 Ahem...excuse me but, EVER? That I'm aware of... Donl't be so picky. As a generalized statement it's pretty damned true. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
eyeball Posted February 24, 2009 Report Posted February 24, 2009 I guess its that proportionality thing. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
MontyBurns Posted February 24, 2009 Report Posted February 24, 2009 And yet, none of your crowd EVER starts a thread to criticise Hamas - or any other Arab state. None of you join in the ones where others criticse them either except to try and criticise Isreal or the west instead. Start a topic critical of some Muslim country or Islam, and guaranteed, all the usual suspects who are always bleating about Israel will show up - none of them joining in the criticism of the Muslim country or Islam. All of them trying to instead suggest that the US, or Christianity, or Israel are as bad or worse in order to draw attention back to their one-trick-pony topic. They don't criticize Hamas or Islam because they foolishly believe that they are on the same side as the Muslims. Muslims would slaughter Canadian leftists if given the chance. Imagine Muslim extremists getting into bed with a bunch of hippy granolas from Canada. Ain't gonna happen. Quote "From my cold dead hands." Charlton Heston
Progressive Tory Posted February 24, 2009 Author Report Posted February 24, 2009 - There is no good and evil ----- "It's all good" Or maybe it's all evil. Of course we knew it wouldn't be long before Kenney would start testing his theories. Ottawa slams CUPE's proposed boycott of Israel "The Harper government is accusing one of Ontario's biggest unions of taking an "intolerant" stance against Israel. Multiculturalism Minister Jason Kenney says a CUPE Ontario resolution urging a boycott of Israeli universities is intolerant and contributes to a bad atmosphere on Canadian campuses." But what about Muslim students who are still being blamed for 9/11? Kenney "...claims it's part of a growing wave "singling out and targeting the Jewish democratic state of Israel for opprobrium." ..."The premise of these things seems to be that the Jewish people shouldn't have their own country," he said Monday Kenney is lying. Nobody says that the Jewish people shouldn't have Israel. We're saying they have no right to any land other than Israel and withold our right to oppose their aggression as loudly as we oppose any acts of terrorism. That's what's disgraceful....taking sides, which is only permission for further violence. I don't believe that the union is right to single out students, which could incite hate crimes. However, the gov't can't single out any group of students as the only victims. Quote "For all our modesty and self-deprecation, we’re a people who dream great dreams. And then roll up our sleeves and turn them into realities." - Michael Ignatieff "I would not want the Prime Minister to think that he could simply fail in the House of Commons as a route to another General Election. That's not the way our system works." Stephen Harper.
Progressive Tory Posted February 24, 2009 Author Report Posted February 24, 2009 They don't criticize Hamas or Islam because they foolishly believe that they are on the same side as the Muslims. Muslims would slaughter Canadian leftists if given the chance. Imagine Muslim extremists getting into bed with a bunch of hippy granolas from Canada. Ain't gonna happen. Oh for heaven's sake. I speak out against Hamas all the time and have never said that they were any better than the Israeli Defense Forces or the Israeli gov't. who direct the IDF. However, when our government says that eveything Israel does is fair and just and everyone who opposes that stand is anti Semite, it only makes them co-conspirators. Supposedly our own soldiers are killing people for our freedom. I'll be damned if I'm going to let Kenney, or any other pompous ass tell me that I'm not free to speak out when children are being murdered. The Israeli and Hamas gov't were both democratically elected. Both support violence. Both are wrong. We need to stand up for the innocent victims on both sides. Quote "For all our modesty and self-deprecation, we’re a people who dream great dreams. And then roll up our sleeves and turn them into realities." - Michael Ignatieff "I would not want the Prime Minister to think that he could simply fail in the House of Commons as a route to another General Election. That's not the way our system works." Stephen Harper.
Argus Posted February 24, 2009 Report Posted February 24, 2009 Oh for heaven's sake. I speak out against Hamas all the time Just not, er, here, right? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted February 24, 2009 Report Posted February 24, 2009 I guess its that proportionality thing. Proportionately - about 10% of those who criticise Israel have legitimate and knowledgeable concern about human rights abuses. About 70% don't really have much of a clue as to what the world is like, what the conflict is about, what the history is, or what efforts have been made or could reasonably be expected to be made (with some hope of success) to bring about an end to the conflict. They're simply responding to the unending, breathless drama the TV networks foist upon us day after day after day of men in uniforms with tanks against "ordinary folks". And then another 20% just hate Jews. Note that among that middle group is a rising level of anti-semitism because they're not a very bright bunch, and are transferring the moral guilt they want to place on Israel on all Jews. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Progressive Tory Posted February 24, 2009 Author Report Posted February 24, 2009 Just not, er, here, right? What part of both sides are wrong didn't you understand? What part of both Hamas and the Israeli Defense Forces are terrorist groups who use innocent civilians to further their cause, didn't you understand? I am not against the Jews or the Muslims. I am against the war between Israel and Palestine and Kenney has no business telling us that if we question Israel we are anti-semite, anymore than he can tell us that by protesting againt Palestine we are Islamophobic. These are two forces of evil and by taking sides we are sanctioning the murder of innocent children. This isn't about religion because no God would support either of them. Quote "For all our modesty and self-deprecation, we’re a people who dream great dreams. And then roll up our sleeves and turn them into realities." - Michael Ignatieff "I would not want the Prime Minister to think that he could simply fail in the House of Commons as a route to another General Election. That's not the way our system works." Stephen Harper.
M.Dancer Posted February 24, 2009 Report Posted February 24, 2009 What part of both Hamas and the Israeli Defense Forces are terrorist groups who use innocent civilians to further their cause, didn't you understand? Your logic, rationale and motivation for publishing such blatant and scurrilous lies... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Oleg Bach Posted February 24, 2009 Report Posted February 24, 2009 What part of both sides are wrong didn't you understand? What part of both Hamas and the Israeli Defense Forces are terrorist groups who use innocent civilians to further their cause, didn't you understand?I am not against the Jews or the Muslims. I am against the war between Israel and Palestine and Kenney has no business telling us that if we question Israel we are anti-semite, anymore than he can tell us that by protesting againt Palestine we are Islamophobic. These are two forces of evil and by taking sides we are sanctioning the murder of innocent children. This isn't about religion because no God would support either of them. I agree - even the devil wants no part of them - Religious nuts like to go on how "Satan" the big one and the little one and all the minons (favorite princess) are responsible for the mayhem...Even if there was a Satanic entity wandering about - at least this thing would play the game according to devine natural law...Israel and Hamas - have fallen lower than that and now they make up their own rules of engagement...no rules at all! I would say they are less than evil --- If you believe in a God you will understand that God created both good and evil and has almighty domain over both! It is for us and our free will to sort out the negative from the positive - the good and the bad.....In the middle east - They have lost the WILL to achieve peace. Quote
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