This Is Total B.S

madmax · January 7, 2009

Your Ignorance is showing again....lol i served in the PPCLI out west for over 20 years and i am friends with many soldiers and know some who are now currently serving....funny how they don t share your views...lol!

I don't believe that you hate soldiers. Nor do I believe that the majority of soldiers share your views although there are those that would.

I am in touch with many and have found many divergent and intense views. That doesn't stop any of them from doing their jobs as professionals.

madmax · January 7, 2009

All he has to do is the "I was playing it safe" and "I was scared for my life" defense. The judge would take that into account when making a decision. It is a weak defense, but then again, there is that case in Alberta posted in local politics that has just as weak as that one. This is up to the judge.

There is a huge difference between a military court and a civy court.

blueblood · January 7, 2009

There is a huge difference between a military court and a civy court.

That's besides the point.

wulf42 · January 7, 2009

I don't believe that you hate soldiers. Nor do I believe that the majority of soldiers share your views although there are those that would.
I am in touch with many and have found many divergent and intense views. That doesn't stop any of them from doing their jobs as professionals.

I do agree with your statement...and of course i don't hate our soldiers !! which is why i am so angered by Canada charging one of them for doing IMHO a great service!

wulf42 · January 7, 2009

I'm surprised the guy got found out in the first place.

Same here! i am sure this isn t the first time this has happened, usually what happens in the field stays there!

eyeball · January 7, 2009

unbelieveable never have i seen so much support for the enemy as i have on here.

Its people like you that underscore the fact that in a democracy people are responsible for the actions of their governments and armed forces. Civilian cheerleading of the sort you characterize, like murdering an enemy that is hors de combat, is guaranteed to put Canada in harm's way. Its things like these that leave me with the conviction that every single international military committment our government proposes to embark on should be ratified by Canadians in a referendum. The implications for Canadians are far to severe to leave to politicians and especially the sorts of political parties people like you support.

People like General Hillier are being quoted as saying the two months its taken for this to come to light is "phenomenally quick" (source). Why it took more than two days should be disturbing, two weeks very disturbing, two months...beyond extremely disturbing. In light of the promises made to Canadians in the wake of Somalia the optics in this case are grotesque to say the least and the implications are even more terrifying. Semrau is charged with committing this murder while training the Afghan National Army. I wonder how far and wide and quickly this story has been spread amongst Afghans and the enemy - the so-called "scum", "crap" and "garbage" that's being killed in Canada's name?

The very least Canadian's should be demanding is that our armed forces in Afghanistan be confined to their barracks until we know exactly what happened but even more importantly why it took so long for us to find out about it. If Semrau is guilty our armed forces should immediately come home and be confined to Canada forever.

Its time every soldier (and cop) had a camera installed in their helmet so their actions can be subject to an audit, but more importantly to guarantee Canada's honour is the first thing that's being defended.

wulf42 · January 7, 2009

Hey Eyeball lmao..............are you for real??? This is why Liberals can never lead this country again!

i can't believe it...lol, this is why Canada has practically no military and other Nato countries look at us with sympathy

pleasssssseeeeeeeeeeeee don t ever go into politics! Do me a favor go to Gagetown or Wainwright and tell the Soldiers how you feel then let me know how you make out with that.......lol

Edited January 7, 2009 by wulf42

WIP · January 7, 2009

Killing scum Taliban should never be a crime, these filthy animals can't even really be regarded as people as far as i am concerned .......just targets!

This is the same, stupid attitude that has left the Americans in the mess they are in, being hated and despised by most of the World, including countries that are supposed to be allies. If we do not hold our soldiers accountable, we'll end up with the same reputation as the Ugly Americans have with Abu Ghraib and contracted Blackwater mercenaries shooting everything in sight as they escort diplomats around Baghdad.

It's been pointed out that much of the Canadian PR success in Afghanistan and Pakistan can be attributed to the lower profile and reluctance to meddle in to local politics as the Americans are doing. And that's also a reason why they are taking higher percentages of casualties also.

One of the curious aspects of Canada's war in Afghanistan is that while most Pakistanis vehemently oppose the U.S. military presence there, Canada's role has largely escaped criticism.

"This is an amazing PR feat," said Zaid Hamid, director of Brass Tacks, a company that provides security and threats analysis. "Despite the fact that Canadians are fighting and dying there, the entire focus is on the Americans. Even the Pakistani military does not discuss the Canadian role."

http://ensign.ftlcomm.com/ensign2/mcintyre...1/pakistan.html

I am sure they wouldn't treat our guys to pleasant if they captured a Canadian! During WW2 Canadians routinely shot captured SS units because of the terrible things they did to POW'S why should we treat Terrorist's any different?

And there were no satellite TV channels back in WWII to film all of the war crimes committed. War correspondents such as Lowell Thomas, were the equivalent of today's embedded journalists. Their lives depended on the troops they were reporting on, so they would look the other way if Allied soldiers lined up and show German POW's. Also, they were under pressure to produce propaganda pieces in the interests of the morale of the folks back home.

eyeball · January 7, 2009

I don't believe that you hate soldiers. Nor do I believe that the majority of soldiers share your views although there are those that would.
I am in touch with many and have found many divergent and intense views. That doesn't stop any of them from doing their jobs as professionals.

Don't they have psychological screening to weed out nut-bars like wulf? I wonder how much "garbage" he took out in our name when no one was looking?

wulf42 · January 7, 2009

Don't they have psychological screening to weed out nut-bars like wulf? I wonder how much "garbage" he took out in our name when no one was looking?

good God man seek help..........................you must be a liberal.............lmao!

guyser · January 7, 2009

Your Ignorance is showing again...

Quite the opposite is true.

You are the one who served in the PPCLI for 20 years , not I, you are the one who should have first hand knowledge of your duty, your conventions you operate under, and you are the one who should know that shooting an injured unnarmed combatant is not only wrong, but it is a punishable action.

You want to talk about the frustration the avg guy might have over there, you want to talk about how many soldiers wish they could annihilate all they combat against? Then do so, and I wont have an argument with that.

.....funny how they don t share your views...lol!

Frankly I think they are smarter than that and in fact do share my view, as pertains to this incident.

wulf42 · January 7, 2009

Quite the opposite is true.
You are the one who served in the PPCLI for 20 years , not I, you are the one who should have first hand knowledge of your duty, your conventions you operate under, and you are the one who should know that shooting an injured unnarmed combatant is not only wrong, but it is a punishable action.

You want to talk about the frustration the avg guy might have over there, you want to talk about how many soldiers wish they could annihilate all they combat against? Then do so, and I wont have an argument with that.

Frankly I think they are smarter than that and in fact do share my view, as pertains to this incident.

Really.....?? have you talked to any? I somehow doubt it. What i am saying is that this Capt. should not stand trial

for taking out a guy who just moments earlier was trying to kill him and his men and i am sure the Taliban would not hesitate one second killing our wounded!

Edited January 7, 2009 by wulf42

AngusThermopyle · January 7, 2009

The very least Canadian's should be demanding is that our armed forces in Afghanistan be confined to their barracks until we know exactly what happened but even more importantly why it took so long for us to find out about it. If Semrau is guilty our armed forces should immediately come home and be confined to Canada forever.

This has to be one of the most stupid things I've ever read.

wulf42 · January 7, 2009

This has to be one of the most stupid things I've ever read.

lol...........i found it extremely amusing too! i am still shaking my head in disbelief.

M.Dancer · January 7, 2009

unbelieveable never have i seen so much support for the enemy as i have on here.

Wrong.

I don't see any support for your position..which is the same as the Taleban scum...supporting summary executions, arbitrary justice and rule by force.

As an officer he has a legal duty to adhere to a scrict code of conduct. So far no allegations have been proven against him but it saddens me to see someone like you who hates our freedoms so much they applaud lawlessness and chaos.

You should be ashamed of the spectacul you are making of yourself.

M.Dancer · January 7, 2009

There's a lot we don't know on our side-like the politics of the Army unit he was in and and why he was charged and why others weren't, because given how long Canada has been stuck in the zhit in Afghanistan it has certainly happened in the past.
Could be the soldier has all kinds of people above/below him that's he's rubbed the wrong way and now he gets his just reward.

Thank you for the uninformed and valueless opinion.

wulf42 · January 7, 2009

Wrong.
I don't see any support for your position..which is the same as the Taleban scum...supporting summary executions, arbitrary justice and rule by force.

As an officer he has a legal duty to adhere to a scrict code of conduct. So far no allegations have been proven against him but it saddens me to see someone like you who hates our freedoms so much they applaud lawlessness and chaos.

You should be ashamed of the spectacul you are making of yourself.

let's see.........i should be ashamed because a Canadian soldier killed a Terrorist?.... let me think hummmm still waiting...umm still waiting........nope i got nothing!

oh and by the way your an idiot....lol

M.Dancer · January 7, 2009

The Taliban insurgent is described as mortally wounded. What was the purpose of the shooting and who was there that complained.

Euphanasia....a mercy killing, misericordia, coupe de grace...

I had a friend who killed a deer that lay mortally wounded. He used a swiss army knife on its throat. Hecouldn't bear to hear its screams.

He also ate it.

guyser · January 7, 2009

Really.....?? have you talked to any? I somehow doubt it. What i am saying is that this Capt. should not stand trial
for taking out a guy who just moments earlier was trying to kill him and his men and i am sure the Taliban would not hesitate one second killing our wounded!

I am pleased that our enlisted men have honour and courage to do the right thing. I am also glad you are out of the service, but thank you for your past contribution.

wulf42 · January 7, 2009

Euphanasia....a mercy killing, misericordia, coupe de grace...
I had a friend who killed a deer that lay mortally wounded. He used a swiss army knife on its throat. Hecouldn't bear to hear its screams.

He also ate it.

And your point is????

Edited January 7, 2009 by wulf42

wulf42 · January 7, 2009

I am pleased that our enlisted men have honour and courage to do the right thing. I am also glad you are out of the service, but thank you for your past contribution.

Like i thought you don't know any soldiers!

M.Dancer · January 7, 2009

let's see.........i should be ashamed because a Canadian soldier killed a Terrorist?

No you should be ashamed for espousing the same values as the Taleban.

.... let me think hummmm still waiting...umm still waiting........nope i got nothing!

Yes obviously cognitive ability is not your strong suit, take as much time as you need

oh and by the way your an idiot....lol

It's you're, not your.

Edited January 7, 2009 by M.Dancer

wulf42 · January 7, 2009

It's you're, not your.

Oh looky...now you are an English teacher...... but i guess that is typical on here, when losing an arguement on a particular topic try to find something else use....let me guess YOU'RE a Liberal too?? :lol:

Edited January 7, 2009 by wulf42

M.Dancer · January 7, 2009

You are the one who served in the PPCLI for 20 years ,

I don't buy his service story one wit. Too many things he has said sound hollow and he is plainly too stupid to be trusted with either blunt or sharp objects.

wulf42 · January 7, 2009

I don't buy his service story one wit. Too many things he has said sound hollow and he is plainly too stupid to be trusted with either blunt or sharp objects.

Well how will i ever sleep tonight?...you don't believe me....lol.