maplesyrup Posted March 20, 2004 Report Posted March 20, 2004 we can discuss results tomorrow. HARPER WILL COME FIRST ON FIRST COUNT BUT NOT 50% NO ROOM TO GROW BELINDA TAKES IT ON SECOND COUNT Quote An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't. Anatole France
maplesyrup Posted March 20, 2004 Author Report Posted March 20, 2004 The start time for voting is 10 AM (ET). Thanks for the heads up. Maybe it's the CBC TV coverage that will start about 2:30 PM (ET). Quote An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't. Anatole France
August1991 Posted March 20, 2004 Report Posted March 20, 2004 Voting starts at 10 am in Montreal. (That's EST, no?) There's an 80% chance Harper wins on the first ballot. If he doesn't make 50%, then Clement falls out and his second choices are counted. No doubt there, Harper wins. Key question? How will the CBC report Harper's win? Quote
sir_springer Posted March 20, 2004 Report Posted March 20, 2004 Assuming this goes by new boundaries... For Stephen Harper: BC: 3600 pts x 85% = 3060 AB: 2800 pts x 85% = 2380 SK: 1400 pts x 70% = 980 MB: 1400 pts x 65% = 910 ON: 10600 pts x 60% = 6360 QU: 7500 pts x 40% = 3000 NL: 700 pts x 40% = 280 PEI: 400 pts x 20% = 80 NS: 1100 pts x 30% = 330 NB: 1000 pts x 40% = 400 NWT: 300 pts x 50% = 150 TOTAL: (30800 x 50% = 15400 + 1) 17930 Base assumptions: 1) CA members are more certain to vote. 2) Low turnout of new members signed by Stronach. 3) Half of the 252,000 members are Reform/CA. (Compas poll results) 4) Ontario members at least 60% CA. 5) CA members will overwhelming support Harper, and in every province. 6) Stronach support in Quebec is overestimated, and poor turnout for her. Bottom line: Harper on the first ballot, over 17,000 pts. Quote
August1991 Posted March 20, 2004 Report Posted March 20, 2004 ON: 10600 pts x 60% = 6360 QU: 7500 pts x 40% = 3000 You sure? That's 9360. More than half of what's required. I'd put it at 50% and 30%. But I repeat: Watch how the CBC reports this. It won't be Layton winning the NDP, it'll be, well, Harper winning the Conservatives. Quote
sir_springer Posted March 20, 2004 Report Posted March 20, 2004 Harper's support in both Ontario and Quebec will shock everyone. Quote
August1991 Posted March 20, 2004 Report Posted March 20, 2004 Harper's support in both Ontario and Quebec will shock everyone. It will the shock the CBC. From Quebec? The story will be that Stronach tried to buy votes but she didn't succeed because well, she didn't understand Quebec. Then, the story will be: We're Canadian, not American, and we don't sell votes well. But, you know what, that's what Tories try and do: Buy and Sell Votes. But the Tories are bad at doing this and that's why Harper won. Harper wants a dog-eat-dog world, and now that he won so easily, he wants to impose it on the rest of us. IOW, no logic at all. Quote
sir_springer Posted March 20, 2004 Report Posted March 20, 2004 Why do you presume that a country that is not a welfare nanny-state in which people/regions line up for their turn at the government teat like trained puppies... Ipso facto then must be a dog-eat-dog world? It is possible to be a caring, nurturing nation without having to lead people around by a ring in their noses, or putting three feet of padding under every single ass in case they stumble. Time for some of the people in this country to grow up a tad, and lift themselves off their mommy's laps for a change. Quote
MapleLeafMerc Posted March 20, 2004 Report Posted March 20, 2004 we can discuss results tomorrow.HARPER WILL COME FIRST ON FIRST COUNT BUT NOT 505{ BELINDA TAKES IT ON SECOND COUNT Ah, excuse me, maple syrup. The voting starts at 10 am EST. Did you have a dream that it started at 2:30 PM? I will look forward to your comments tomorrow as a condemned man would the noose. Quote
August1991 Posted March 20, 2004 Report Posted March 20, 2004 Ipso facto then must be a dog-eat-dog world? I'm just presenting a possible CBC scenario to the story tomorrow. When Harper wins, the CBC will be smug and sanctimonious about his victory. The CBC was not smug and sanctimonious when Layton won. We all pay involuntary taxes to hear this. Putin got re-elected by similar methods. Quote
maplesyrup Posted March 20, 2004 Author Report Posted March 20, 2004 QUOTE]Putin got re-elected by similar methods. I didn't realise that Russia has one public TV network and many private TV networks. Quote An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't. Anatole France
maplesyrup Posted March 20, 2004 Author Report Posted March 20, 2004 Good luck to everyone in their choice of candidate. Don't forget to vote, and vote often. Have a great day! Quote An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't. Anatole France
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