Should Canada and the U.S. become one nation?

[reasonoverpassion]

It would nothing nothing sort of tragic if Canadians were so foolish as to foresake our birhtright to enter the USA as a collection of 9 blue states and 1 red one (Alberta)

Canada is important to the world and we need to proud of what we have done in the world. We have a responsibility to show the world a unique perspective on government and society.

[johhny]

It would nothing nothing sort of tragic if Canadians were so foolish as to foresake our birhtright to enter the USA as a collection of 9 blue states and 1 red one (Alberta)

Canada is important to the world and we need to proud of what we have done in the world. We have a responsibility to show the world a unique perspective on government and society.

Don't forget about Mexico they are in this deal also

[bush_cheney2004]

I would like to see Obama in action first before I make that decision. If your really interested in this you can find on government sites info on it.

The decision has already been made....former "Canadians" would only be 8% of the NAU population.

Sorry, but the US cannot save you from yourselves.

Get in line behind Puerto Rico.

[johhny]

CANAMEX was one of the first north-south corridors designated as a High Priority Corridor under the National Highway Systems Designation Act. Actively pursued by Alberta since the early 1990's, the CANAMEX Trade Corridor links Canada, the United States and Mexico and stretches 6,000 km from Alaska to Mexico, truly a pan-American corridor. http://www.transportation.alberta.ca/710.htm

The Asia-Pacific Gateway and Corridor is a system of transportation infrastructure, including British Columbia Lower Mainland and Prince Rupert ports, road and rail connections that reach across Western Canada and into the economic heartlands of North America, as well as major airports and border crossings.

The Asia-Pacific Gateway and Corridor Initiative is an integrated set of investment and policy measures focused on trade with the Asia-Pacific Region. Its mission is to establish Canada’s Asia-Pacific Gateway and Corridor as the best transportation network facilitating global supply chains between North America and Asia.

http://www.tc.gc.ca/CanadasGateways/APGCI/index.html

[Smallc]

Sorry, but the US cannot save you from yourselves.

Good, because we don't need saving.

[LesterDC]

No! of course not but at that time of the Iraq war they had an idiot for President, now they have Obama which i believe will turn their economy around and end the war in Iraq.

That is the difference between our systems.. The U.S. president has ultimate power.. If a dumb ass president (Bush) ends up in office, he has the ultimate power

[bush_cheney2004]

Good, because we don't need saving.

It appears that others feel differently. Or are you running the country?

[bush_cheney2004]

That is the difference between our systems.. The U.S. president has ultimate power.. If a dumb ass president (Bush) ends up in office, he has the ultimate power

The opposite is true.

PM Chretien attacked a sovereign state in 1999 without so much as a vote in Parliament.....Clinton and the Bushes did far better.

[johhny]

BlackWater-Lobby Canada Torie Government for Secret Funding?

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=4LV4-VTalRY

OTTAWA -- The Canadian Forces are using a controversial private security firm to train some of its troops sent to Afghanistan.

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.htm...1d-c033e5d6d168

Edited November 30, 2008 by johhny

[LesterDC]

Good, because we don't need saving.

hear hear

[bush_cheney2004]

hear hear

Well, there certainly seems to be a strong need for whining.

[LesterDC]

The opposite is true.

PM Chretien attacked a sovereign state in 1999 without so much as a vote in Parliament.....Clinton and the Bushes did far better.

Well the 1999 bombing was a NATO motion.. Iraq was something else..

[bush_cheney2004]

Well the 1999 bombing was a NATO motion.. Iraq was something else..

Nope.....same thing. Dropping bombs on people is the same thing. Parliament could just whistle......while the American presidents specifically sought and obtained Congressional approval.

Edited November 30, 2008 by bush_cheney2004

[LesterDC]

Nope.....same thing. Dropping bombs on people is the same thing. Parliament could just whistle......while the American presidents specifically sought and obtained Congressional approval.

Not the same thing.. As I said, the 1999 bombing was a motion set forth by NATO. The Iraq war was set forth by .... Bush.. and god knows why..

[LesterDC]

Nope.....same thing. Dropping bombs on people is the same thing. Parliament could just whistle......while the American presidents specifically sought and obtained Congressional approval.

The President can attack a country without congress if he wanted to

[bush_cheney2004]

The President can attack a country without congress if he wanted to

So can a Canadian Prime Minister it would seem...he never did get "permission".

[LesterDC]

So can a Canadian Prime Minister it would seem...he never did get "permission".

it was a NATO motion.. Canada is part of NATO so...

[bush_cheney2004]

Not the same thing.. As I said, the 1999 bombing was a motion set forth by NATO. The Iraq war was set forth by .... Bush.. and god knows why..

NATO's Operation Allied Force was not sanctioned by the United Nations.....same as the invasion of Iraq, which was a continuation of US/UK policy going back to 1991.

[bush_cheney2004]

it was a NATO motion.. Canada is part of NATO so...

You are dodging the issue.....the US presidents obtained domestic authorization to commit troops and dollars......Chretien did not.

[LesterDC]

NATO's Operation Allied Force was not sanctioned by the United Nations.....same as the invasion of Iraq, which was a continuation of US/UK policy going back to 1991.

NATO doesn't need UN sanctions.. NATO was made so that it could move freely from UN influence

[bush_cheney2004]

NATO doesn't need UN sanctions.. NATO was made so that it could move freely from UN influence

Read the NATO Charter.....it doesn't support your contention.

In any event, a Canadian PM has more unchecked power than any other "western" head of state.

Edited November 30, 2008 by bush_cheney2004

[LesterDC]

You are dodging the issue.....the US presidents obtained domestic authorization to commit troops and dollars......Chretien did not.

Canada being part of NATO is not dodging the issue.. NATO is a pact and Canada is part of it.

Not saying that I particularly agree with the decision, but I can see where he is coming from

Edited November 30, 2008 by LesterDC

[bush_cheney2004]

Canada being part of NATO is not dodging the issue.. NATO is a pact and Canada is part of it.

Not saying that I particularly agree with the decision, but I can see where he is coming from

Then why all the fuss over troops in Afghanistan...if you "see where he is coming from"?

[LesterDC]

Read the NATO Charter.....it doesn't support your contention.

In any event, a Canadian PM has more unchecked power than any other "western" head of state.

NATO was made in the mid/late 40's because of the inefficiency of the U.N. system.

"..........seek greater safety in an association of democratic and peace-loving states" - St. Laurent's speech written by Pearson on NATO

NATO tries to run in concert with the UN but it is not a necessity .

[LesterDC]

Then why all the fuss over troops in Afghanistan...if you "see where he is coming from"?

I do see where they are coming from.. Assuming the fact that 9/11 was a sincere attack on American soil, the NATO countries DO have an obligation to attack.

However, the war is now past that kind of sentiment.. Not a lot of people think that the Afghanistan war is being very effective; the focus needs to be on the implementation of order and governance..