Layton wants to defeat gov't on throne speech

[Mr.Canada]

Right after the throne speech Layton tells the media that he wants to bring down the government over the throne speech.

Has this man lost his mind or what?

We spent $300 million on an election nobody wanted now he wants to do it again.

He is not so slowly losing his credibility. The throne speech is just an outline of what the gov't wants to do, nothing definitive just a rough outline and Layton wants to bring down the house over it...lol.

Same old brinkmanship from Mr. Layton, Canadians won't stand for it. If he doesn't tone it down he'll lose seats and support of Canadians.

Edited November 24, 2008 by Mr.Canada

[maldon_road]

No fear of an election. Both the Bloc and the NDP know the Libs will prop up the government until their leadership convention. Dion has already said he will not defeat the government over the Speech from the Throne.

What Layton was doing was that mainstay of politics - "a meaningless gesture".

[Mr.Canada]

No fear of an election. Both the Bloc and the NDP know the Libs will prop up the government until their leadership convention. Dion has already said he will not defeat the government over the Speech from the Throne.

What Layton was doing was that mainstay of politics - "a meaningless gesture".

It doesn't send the message that Layton wants to try and work with the government does it? Pouting like a child was last session. Canadians don't want brinkmanship this time around. He must have thought that he was posting on the rabble forum again.

[madmax]

The throne speech is just an outline of what the gov't wants to do, nothing definitive just a rough outline and

That is why I don't believe the throne speech should be confidence vote.

[Sir Bandelot]

Thats the way it should be in a minority government, I say let it happen.

What Layton needs to do first is make sure all Canadians know about the level of betrayal happening here, with the Harper gang.

This needs to be brought out in public more so that the people know, we have been lied too

Edited November 23, 2008 by Sir Bandelot

[madmax]

Thats the way it should be in a minority government, I say let it happen.

What Layton needs to do first is make sure all Canadians know about the level of betrayal happening here, with the Harper gang.

This needs to be brought out in public so that the people know, we have been lied too

I don't believe there are any "lies" in the throne speech.

The campaign is completely different. He lied with the best of them.

[maldon_road]

It doesn't send the message that Layton wants to try and work with the government does it? Pouting like a child was last session. Canadians don't want brinkmanship this time around. He must have thought that he was posting on the rabble forum again.

When you head up a party with the likes of Pat Martin and Libby Davies in it all you have to offer is arrogance and superciliousness.

Edited November 23, 2008 by maldon_road

[kengs333]

When you head up a party with the likes of Pat Martin and Libby Davies in all you have to offer is arrogance and superciliousness.

I'm all for an election.

[Mr.Canada]

Thats the way it should be in a minority government, I say let it happen.

What Layton needs to do first is make sure all Canadians know about the level of betrayal happening here, with the Harper gang.

This needs to be brought out in public more so that the people know, we have been lied too

Did Chretien scrap the GST as promised in 1993?

Chretien had nothing to do with AdScam?

Yeah Liberals are the shining example of fairness...

PM Harper has been leading from the centre in a tough economic times. Mr. Don and Mr. Layton policies would have bankrupted Canada, simple as that.

[Cameron]

Sir Bandelot: Can you PM your address so I can send you a CPC Sustaining Donor card...

[na85]

Did Chretien scrap the GST as promised in 1993?

Chretien had nothing to do with AdScam?

Yeah Liberals are the shining example of fairness...

PM Harper has been leading from the centre in a tough economic times. Mr. Don and Mr. Layton policies would have bankrupted Canada, simple as that.

Wow... a reference to AdScam. I love this tactic. Any time a left-winger says anything bad about the Tories, AdScam gets brought up quicker than a forest fire spreads during a drought. As if somehow, the adscam scandal gives the Conservative gov't carte blanche to do whatever it pleases.

There's a term for this kind of argument.. but I forget what it is.

[na85]

Right after the throne speech Layton tells the media that he wants to bring down the government over the throne speech.

Has this man lost his mind or what?

We spent $300 million on an election nobody wanted now he wants to do it again.

He is not so slowly losing his credibility. The throne speech is just an outline of what the gov't wants to do, nothing definitive just a rough outline and Layton wants to bring down the house over it...lol.

Same old brinkmanship from Mr. Layton, Canadians won't stand for it. If he doesn't tone it down he'll lose seats and support of Canadians.

Can you expect anything less from the NDP? They'll do anything to create controversy.

[Vancouver King]

Right after the throne speech Layton tells the media that he wants to bring down the government over the throne speech.

Has this man lost his mind or what?

This is what opposition parties do - oppose. Don't mistake the Liberal party's current perch on the edge of oblivion as a systemic change in centuries of parliamentary tradition.

Layton is doing his job, one that impotent Liberals are unable to do - holding Tories feet to the fire.

[Shakeyhands]

We spent $300 million on an election nobody wanted

And yet Mr Harper decided to do so... it's not right, is it Mr Canada?

[madmax]

PM Harper has been leading from the centre in a tough economic times. Mr. Don and Mr. Layton policies would have bankrupted Canada, simple as that.

What we do know is that Mr. Harper's Policies have led to a "deficit before the storm". Mr. Harper was not leading from the Centre. He had been obsessed with parlimentary control and brinksmanship. He had been focused on electoral gamemanship. He had been using every tactic to gain a majority. He paid for polls vs govern responsibly. Polls are not the centre of anything. He was unable to succeed in his goa for a majority. He choose to have a costly election and hide his deficit spending ways.

He ignored the economy his entire first term.

Dion gave Mr. Harper all the rope he needed to succeed in the first term, and the Harper Led CPC chose a deficit first system of governance. If Alberta can send people to a conference for $6,000 and the Harper Conservatives spend $60,000 for the same conference, then the government is not leading the country through tough economic times. It is leading the pigs to the trough.

I have yet to understand the fiscal wisdom of heading into a recession with a self inflicted deficit. Is this the Leadership you admire?

[madmax]

This is what opposition parties do - oppose. Don't mistake the Liberal party's current perch on the edge of oblivion as a systemic change in centuries of parliamentary tradition.

Layton is doing his job, one that impotent Liberals are unable to do - holding Tories feet to the fire.

I prefer opposition to chicken nodding. Even the best of minds miss something when they agree on the first discussion. What I don't like is that a throne speech is a vote of confidence. As for the LPC. They will continue to follow the Dion policy of supporting Harper until they elect a Leader, then who knows. The next LPC leader could well support all of the CPC policies out of shared beliefs as opposed to being afraid.

[Mr.Canada]

What we do know is that Mr. Harper's Policies have led to a "deficit before the storm". Mr. Harper was not leading from the Centre. He had been obsessed with parlimentary control and brinksmanship. He had been focused on electoral gamemanship. He had been using every tactic to gain a majority. He paid for polls vs govern responsibly. Polls are not the centre of anything. He was unable to succeed in his goa for a majority. He choose to have a costly election and hide his deficit spending ways.

He ignored the economy his entire first term.

Dion gave Mr. Harper all the rope he needed to succeed in the first term, and the Harper Led CPC chose a deficit first system of governance. If Alberta can send people to a conference for $6,000 and the Harper Conservatives spend $60,000 for the same conference, then the government is not leading the country through tough economic times. It is leading the pigs to the trough.

I have yet to understand the fiscal wisdom of heading into a recession with a self inflicted deficit. Is this the Leadership you admire?

Or the record I would prefer to see some old Reform Party policies but that isn't going to happen so Mr. Harper is simply the best option out of the three. Well, if Dion gave the PM all the rope he needed it clearly didn't resonate with voters as Dion lost a lot of seats. The next election they'll lose even more.

No doubt about it, his first term was about control, this term he is loosening the reigns and letting his people speak openly and even working with the other parties to create some really great policy that will help Canada. We have a minority government and no bill can get passed into policy without the support of at least one other party.

Voters have spoken and have said that they want co-operation and not more partisanship and name calling. Our PM Mr. Harper got the message and it striving to get the hard work started and get the hard work done. Mr. Layton either didn't get them memo or chose to ignore the electorate by his own arrogance. Neither of these are good policy. Layton is already losing support because of his comments.

[madmax]

Or the record I would prefer to see some old Reform Party policies.....

[Sir Bandelot]

Meet the new Boss...

The same as the old Boss...

[Oleg Bach]

No - meet the stupid guy as the same as the last stupid guy. Layton is so dumb that he actually has a family member in Afghanistan partaking in the opium war..what a loser - You would assume this commie would have figured out the system by now. Layton is a light weight and a weak when it comes to principled thinking. It still sticks in my mind when a distraught father pleading to see his children - perched himself on Laytons office roof and was theatening to jump unless LAYTON brought some real justice into the family court system - apparently not a peep out of Layton...He likes social engineering - nothing worse than a commie playing god. Ironic - they hate God but want to be one.

[Argus]

Wow... a reference to AdScam. I love this tactic. Any time a left-winger says anything bad about the Tories, AdScam gets brought up quicker than a forest fire spreads during a drought.

Given the leader of the Liberals was Quebec lieutenant for Chretien during Adscam - why not.

And btw, count the number of references to Mulroney made here every single day by the idiots of the Left. And his government was over fifteen years ago.

[Argus]

He is not so slowly losing his credibility. The throne speech is just an outline of what the gov't wants to do, nothing definitive just a rough outline and Layton wants to bring down the house over it...lol.

Just whom do you think Layton ever had any credibility with?

The mouth breathers of the left who don't pay taxes and like his "eat the rich" class-warfare arguments?

[Oleg Bach]

Socialist always belief that eating the rich is a good idea- Just like what happened in revolutionary Russia. The poor mouth breathers ate anyone that was intelligent and worked hard. What took 500 years to build up was eaten up in a the short span of 70 years - of Soviet rule. It's like an industrious person growing and storing food - the less intelligent ones kill the producer and feast till the food is gone and in the end don't have a clue on how to grow it.

[Mr.Canada]

Just whom do you think Layton ever had any credibility with?

The mouth breathers of the left who don't pay taxes and like his "eat the rich" class-warfare arguments?

LOL, yeah probably. That's why NDP supporters want to cut everyone in Canada a cheque. It's isn't there money anyhow as they don't pay taxes.

[na85]

Given the leader of the Liberals was Quebec lieutenant for Chretien during Adscam - why not.

And btw, count the number of references to Mulroney made here every single day by the idiots of the Left. And his government was over fifteen years ago.

Ahh, but that would offend my partisan sensibilities