Throne Speech

[Oleg Bach]

I like how you ignore the rest of the post which was predictable. You know it's true...lol.

Thanks for agreeing with me Oleg!

Laughing out loud...I imagined you as a young guy that I could fool - looks like you got me on that one - what do you expect me to do - actually start reading the threads and actually learning something instead of listening to myself type? That would make me dangerous - If I allowed myself to be edcuated...It's kind of cool how you can fake it if the presentation is intense....much like you don't mess with the guy who has total confidence even if he is full of BS - guess that makes me the perfect confidence man. If you are to young to understand that - it means con man...my kids bug me about my embelishments - ever seen the movie "Big Fish" - that's me.

[Vancouver King]

Hey! I live in Layton's riding, and... Er... Okay, I've got nothing. I live in Layton's riding, and I'm embarassed to say so.

What's worse.... I work in Olivia Chow's.

..or, depending on your perspective, twice blessed.

[g_bambino]

..or, depending on your perspective, twice blessed.

Yes, but I couldn't hold that perspective as I'm not insane. Well, not that insane.

[Mr.Canada]

Laughing out loud...I imagined you as a young guy that I could fool - looks like you got me on that one - what do you expect me to do - actually start reading the threads and actually learning something instead of listening to myself type? That would make me dangerous - If I allowed myself to be edcuated...It's kind of cool how you can fake it if the presentation is intense....much like you don't mess with the guy who has total confidence even if he is full of BS - guess that makes me the perfect confidence man. If you are to young to understand that - it means con man...my kids bug me about my embelishments - ever seen the movie "Big Fish" - that's me.

I like you Oleg, I always enjoy your posts and recently learned you're a female through your posts, I welcome the fairer sex of course. It's a nice change of pace.

I'm in my early thirties but still have that boyish charm ...Yeah, yeah I've heard it all before...hehe. I have mucho confidence in myself and get paid to talk for a living, I'm basically a lobbyist in short. I'm sure many here have seen me or at least read me, I'll say no more about that.

Confidence woman would be more accurate, no?

Keep it up, I enjoy your posts. No sarcasm either.

[jdobbin]

He doesn't need to. With a lame duck leader sitting as the opposition he can govern as if he has a majority. LOL, it's really quite sweet.

If Harper felt he could do anything in power now without risk, he would not have retreated from the crime bill.

[Mr.Canada]

If Harper felt he could do anything in power now without risk, he would not have retreated from the crime bill.

Do you know something I don't jdobbin?

You may well and I'm willing to learn, please expand.

[jdobbin]

Do you know something I don't jdobbin?

You may well and I'm willing to learn, please expand.

Harper said the crime bill isn't a priority. That is a big change from saying it would be an issue of confidence almost immediately just four weeks ago.

[scribblet]

News to me too, can you elaborate or provide a source:

Last I heard was that Justice Minister Rob Nicholson's first initiatives will be to toughen the Youth Criminal Justice Act to make it easier for judges to impose life sentences for killers under age 18 and impose stiffer sentences for other serious offences. He is also expected to revive proposed legislation, which died when the election was called, to add "denunciation and deterrence" as principles for judges to consider when sentencing young offenders under age 18. The government pledged Wednesday new laws to target biker gangs and other organized criminal groups, reflecting their campaign promise to make any murder related to gangs first-degree murder.,

Edited November 20, 2008 by scriblett

[Mr.Canada]

Harper said the crime bill isn't a priority. That is a big change from saying it would be an issue of confidence almost immediately just four weeks ago.

Ah, now I see what you're saying.

He cannot very well make it his first order of business with the economy ruling the airwaves can he? The answer is no.

I'll wager it's not off his list but he must show action on the economy first, then he can move onto this or something else.

If something else newsworthy happens in the soon in terms of major violent crime I'd look at Mr. Harpers agenda getting shifted. I'm talking another Jane Creba here.

I see you're point. A strong leader needs to be mobile and have the ability to change gears according to the surroundings.

[jdobbin]

News to me too, can you elaborate or provide a source:

The source has been provided many times.

Four days ago.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianp...nUlmvKP5JIeoPIg

Since then, however, Harper has adopted a more conciliatory tone in the face of global financial crisis, signalling that he'd prefer consensus to bare-knuckle brawling in Parliament.

"We are focused on the economy," a senior Tory recently told reporters. "We are not seeking confrontation in areas that are secondary to the economic focus of the government."

There will be no introduction of the law in 2008.

[Mr.Canada]

The source has been provided many times.

Four days ago.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianp...nUlmvKP5JIeoPIg

There will be no introduction of the law in 2008.

With Christmas coming, probably not. He'll introduce one major bill and a few minor ones and call it a year unless something else happens. You're playing games jdobbin and you know it, lol. No NA leader can get crazy and too heavy before year end having all that time with family to discuss it but I suspect you know this and are yanking our proverbial(sic) chain.

[jdobbin]

I'll wager it's not off his list but he must show action on the economy first, then he can move onto this or something else.

The economy is going to be around for some time now, I would think.

From one day ago.

http://www.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix...55-3b89b1e76c4f

Government strategists have warned that the Conservatives are not in the mood for a showdown in the opposition-dominated House of Commons and that they have all but abandoned Prime Minister Stephen Harper's stated plan to make anti-crime initiatives confidence votes that could trigger an election upon defeat.

Law and order, a staple of the Conservative grassroots, secured a secondary spot near the end of the 16-page speech as the government seeks a more conciliatory approach with the opposition parties as the Commons focuses on economic issues.

Can't govern like you have a majority unless you have no fears that it will whip around on you and result in an election.

Even a brokedown Liberal party could put the Tories out of office if Canadians think they have misplaced their priorities.

[jdobbin]

With Christmas coming, probably not. He'll introduce one major bill and a few minor ones and call it a year unless something else happens. You're playing games jdobbin and you know it, lol. No NA leader can get crazy and too heavy before year end having all that time with family to discuss it but I suspect you know this and are yanking our proverbial(sic) chain.

Thirty days ago, Harper said he was introducing the crime bill immediately and with confidence. He wasn't worried about Christmas then and looked to see if the Liberals would be bullied into caving on a few pieces of legislation right away. The Liberals said they would not back down and it looks like it is Harper who has decided that going to an election over a crime bill is not in the cards.

[charter.rights]

Thirty days ago, Harper said he was introducing the crime bill immediately and with confidence. He wasn't worried about Christmas then and looked to see if the Liberals would be bullied into caving on a few pieces of legislation right away. The Liberals said they would not back down and it looks like it is Harper who has decided that going to an election over a crime bill is not in the cards.

Harper is no longer looking for a majority...at least for the time being. So the safest thing for him to do is to play nice and get along.

[Mr.Canada]

Harper is no longer looking for a majority...at least for the time being. So the safest thing for him to do is to play nice and get along.

Precisely. Mr. Harper cannot simply do as he pleases. He must work together with other parties to find solutions they can all live with. If he was in a majority he could. That's next election.

[craiger]

As much as I would like to see a early election so we don't accumilate debt under Harper

I feel for the Libs/NDP best interest to give it a year or 2 and let Harper make himself a hole, this will be opertune time it will take the suffering of family's first and the neglect of the conservative policy to overthrow this twat!

Edited November 24, 2008 by craiger

[Mr.Canada]

As much as I would like to see a early election so we don't accumilate debt under Harper

I feel for the Libs/NDP best interest to give it a year or 2 and let Harper make himself a hole, this will be opertune time it will take the suffering of family's first and the neglect of the conservative policy to overthrow this twat!

Mr. Dions $40 Billion Green Shift is not want Canada needs right now and the NDP policies would almost certainly bankrupt Canada. Just like Bob Rae almost did in Ontario. Bob Rae is now a Liberal so he can do the same thing he did to Ontario to Canada.

craiger, ok. The Tories have nearly twice as many seats as the Liberals and with PM Harper's solid plan I only see that increasing.

Edited November 24, 2008 by Mr.Canada

[craiger]

Mr. Dions $40 Billion Green Shift is not want Canada needs right now and the NDP policies would almost certainly bankrupt Canada. Just like Bob Rae almost did in Ontario. Bob Rae is now a Liberal so he can do the same thing he did to Ontario to Canada.

craiger, ok. The Tories have nearly twice as many seats as the Liberals and with PM Harper's solid plan I only see that increasing.

Wether you like it or not the global system is moving towards carbon credits would you rather not our country hold a position in what will be probably the most profitable system for who is in, or would you rather it go to a select few corperations?