Pliny Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 It was not long ago that Canada Post was a government service. It's now a Crown Corporation. Why can't EI go the same way ?In fact, why shouldn't all insurance be run by one agency ? And why do we have such duplication of services provincially, locally and federally. What purpose does it serve ? Trying for an overhaul to get people to vote? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 You have a problem as far as quoting from any Canadian rights document - In the lower courts - to the highest - rulings are made strickly on policy and not judgement. Supposedly the Charter Of Rights And Freedom is based on moral law - the seperation of good and evil - on JUDGEMENT- After following my poor brother through the system - not once out of 20 judges did I see one that made a judgement. All dragged the party line and ruled in favour of the state - New Citizens will be surprised once they understand our system - that it is exactly like the oppressive one they escaped... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 Trying for an overhaul to get people to vote? I think we need to "right size" our democracy so that we get as many people voting as we have citizens paying attention to issues. While the drop-off in voting is concerning, it's really just a symptom of citizenship and community falling out of our lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 If you want to call mob rule community then you may taint the process. If you have not noticed, people are a herd animal - and if they hear in the polls the EVERYBODY is voting in such and such a way they tend to vote as the polls dictate. They hate to be cut from the herd. To rule by panderment or vote by poll is really not a true democracy. George Bernard Shaw who was a socialist from what I understand, was very wise and pragmatic when he said the majority is always wrong. The other part about ruling by poll that is distressing is in the idea - of who owns and controls the polling companies and are they policed and if so by whom? Polls maybe fraudulent..that is a possiblity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griz Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 The answer is simple as to why most aboriginal people don't vote as told to me by a friend. Because every government--whether right or left--it's always the same "old BS!" And that's putting it politely. The governments have been pulling the same stunts since confederation and still do to this da. IN other words they don't give a crap about aboriginal issues and put it on the backburner . Same shit--different pile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Yet, Canada seems to have done quite well since 1867. Maybe those who do vote see the relationship between government and the general welfare of the people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_bambino Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 The answer is simple as to why most aboriginal people don't vote as told to me by a friend. Because every government--whether right or left--it's always the same "old BS!" And that's putting it politely. The governments have been pulling the same stunts since confederation and still do to this da. IN other words they don't give a crap about aboriginal issues and put it on the backburner. I am always perplexed by this government-aboriginal relationship. As I understand it, the government should actually have no part in aboriginal affiars, and vice-versa, save for living up to the treaty obligations. I read the Royal Proclamation 1763 (still in effect today as a part of the constitution) as saying that First Nations, while under the sovereignty of the Crown, do not fall within the jurisdiction of any "colonial" government, and that is what I have always thought was the basis of the nation-to-nation relationship. Is anybody clear on this issue any more? Was anyone ever? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 The urban natives that I know either pan handle for wine - sell crack - and some are sober and noble - I get along with all of them because I understand who they are. Some take well to captivity like well adapted zoo animals - they trive in modern life - others do not do well in captivity - What I understand to be true is that they are in effect intergenerational prisoners of war. You ruin the mental and physical health of a creature through prolonged imprisonment - maybe someone should release them? Myself - I barely am adapting to being socially and economically captive in this system - but at least I understand exactly who and what I am - with that strength taken from that knowledge I continue - I guess it's genetic - me being a throw back to the old Scythians...it sure is difficult getting along in a nation of cowards and liars - much like it is for the Indians...the good old days of the sword and spear are gone - those tools of justice are now illegal - so what do we do to gain a fair and free field of operation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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