jdobbin Posted October 17, 2008 Report Posted October 17, 2008 http://www.financialpost.com/news/story.html?id=885290 A second explosion had shredded the earth around a nearby pipeline, sending small amounts of deadly sour gas hissing into the air, and Ms. Mazanek was asked to keep her cell phone close in case she was needed to evacuate kids from the school. Community leaders were on high alert after hearing about the blast, which came overnight about 15 kilometres from her ranch near Tomslake, a small ranching settlement on Highway 2 between the Alberta border and the northern B.C. outpost of Dawson Creek. Pretty scary. I hope the RCMP is able to get a break in the case. Quote
Riverwind Posted October 17, 2008 Report Posted October 17, 2008 (edited) Pretty scary. I hope the RCMP is able to get a break in the case.Scary? Hardly. Explosives set off far from people that are too small to seriously damage the line. Nothing to worry about. It is an act of vadalism by a local who is pissed at all of the pollution and land rights violations.One thing people living in cities may not realize but BC law gives mineral rights holders some pretty sweeping rights to access other people's property in order to extract what they want. The mineral rights holders sometimes abuse these rights and make people very angry. Edited October 17, 2008 by Riverwind Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
blueblood Posted October 17, 2008 Report Posted October 17, 2008 http://www.financialpost.com/news/story.html?id=885290Pretty scary. I hope the RCMP is able to get a break in the case. It's in BC, the perpetrators if they get caught will get house arrest and some community service, perhaps plead insanity. Thank God for progressive thinking Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
Smallc Posted October 17, 2008 Report Posted October 17, 2008 It's in BC, the perpetrators if they get caught will get house arrest and some community service, perhaps plead insanity. Thank God for progressive thinking Yes, it would be much better to be as conservative as possible and paint everyone with the same brush and treat everything as if it is black and white. Quote
blueblood Posted October 17, 2008 Report Posted October 17, 2008 Yes, it would be much better to be as conservative as possible and paint everyone with the same brush and treat everything as if it is black and white. it worked in the 50's!!! Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
Smallc Posted October 17, 2008 Report Posted October 17, 2008 (edited) it worked in the 50's!!! Well I certainly don't want to go back there lol. I'm only playing with you anyway, I just don't like to be cynical or jump to conclusions. Edited October 17, 2008 by Smallc Quote
jdobbin Posted October 17, 2008 Author Report Posted October 17, 2008 Scary? Hardly. Explosives set off far from people that are too small to seriously damage the line. Nothing to worry about. It is an act of vadalism by a local who is pissed at all of the pollution and land rights violations.One thing people living in cities may not realize but BC law gives mineral rights holders some pretty sweeping rights to access other people's property in order to extract what they want. The mineral rights holders sometimes abuse these rights and make people very angry. I think we have seen small acts turn into bigger acts of violence. I thought people on the right were concerned about violence. Quote
jdobbin Posted October 17, 2008 Author Report Posted October 17, 2008 it worked in the 50's!!! Yes. Coloured people use this fountain, white people use that fountain. Quote
blueblood Posted October 17, 2008 Report Posted October 17, 2008 Yes. Coloured people use this fountain, white people use that fountain. Nice try, that didn't happen in Canada in the 50's. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
jdobbin Posted October 17, 2008 Author Report Posted October 17, 2008 Nice try, that didn't happen in Canada in the 50's. Segregated schools existed in Canada for blacks until the 1950s. http://www.blackottawa411.com/bhm.htm The last segregated school in Ontario closed in the 1950s. Canada doesn't have much to be proud about in terms of segregation. Black and white, I guess. Quote
Vancouver King Posted October 17, 2008 Report Posted October 17, 2008 Will be interesting to see if this is an angry local reacting to property issues or eco terrorists acting on their ideology. Certainly hope it's not the latter as there are thousands of kms of isolated pipeline here in BC. It would be shockingly easy for terrorists to effectively attack this type of infrastructure. Quote When the people have no tyrant, their public opinion becomes one. ...... Lord Lytton
TCCK Posted October 17, 2008 Report Posted October 17, 2008 It's in BC, the perpetrators if they get caught will get house arrest and some community service, perhaps plead insanity. Thank God for progressive thinking Yep that is right, REMEMBER WE HAVE A LIBERAL GOVERNMENT OUT HERE! If we still had the Socil Credit party around the criminls would really get punished. But it could be worse, we could get another NDP government, ewwww the thought sends shivers down my back!! Quote
jdobbin Posted October 17, 2008 Author Report Posted October 17, 2008 Yep that is right, REMEMBER WE HAVE A LIBERAL GOVERNMENT OUT HERE! If we still had the Socil Credit party around the criminls would really get punished. But it could be worse, we could get another NDP government, ewwww the thought sends shivers down my back!! Gimme a break. The Social Credit governments were filled with clowns and wackos. Do you have evidence that Social Credit was better at law enforcement or is this more bloviating? Quote
capricorn Posted October 17, 2008 Report Posted October 17, 2008 The sad reality is that many fanatical Canadians are applauding this destructive behaviour. What is frightening is that this may egg on other fanatics into similar actions on similar targets. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
TCCK Posted October 17, 2008 Report Posted October 17, 2008 Bill Bennett and Bill Jr were very hard line stance on crime and regulaaaarly went aginst the federal court system for being to easy on crime. But since it is all relly controlled by Ottawa we will hve to see what Hrper does to tighten the noose on crime in this country. I say bring back capital punishment for clearly guilty parties. I bet that would slow crime down!!! Quote
guyser Posted October 17, 2008 Report Posted October 17, 2008 I say bring back capital punishment for clearly guilty parties.I bet that would slow crime down!!! Apparently no one gets murdered in Texas. Quote
blueblood Posted October 17, 2008 Report Posted October 17, 2008 Segregated schools existed in Canada for blacks until the 1950s. http://www.blackottawa411.com/bhm.htm Canada doesn't have much to be proud about in terms of segregation. Black and white, I guess. In the 50's Diefenbaker extended his bill of rights ending that. As far as crime rate goes look at the 50's and look at now. Which era was safer? Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
blueblood Posted October 17, 2008 Report Posted October 17, 2008 Yep that is right, REMEMBER WE HAVE A LIBERAL GOVERNMENT OUT HERE! If we still had the Socil Credit party around the criminls would really get punished. But it could be worse, we could get another NDP government, ewwww the thought sends shivers down my back!! Why not just bail out of BC if you hate that type of government, it's a lot easier to switch headquarter buildings than it is for me to switch farms. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
Smallc Posted October 17, 2008 Report Posted October 17, 2008 Anyway, yes, this whole thing is concerning. Quote
jdobbin Posted October 17, 2008 Author Report Posted October 17, 2008 In the 50's Diefenbaker extended his bill of rights ending that. As far as crime rate goes look at the 50's and look at now. Which era was safer? You said that the type of segregation didn't exist in Canada. Please give some stats about the crime rates. I'd like to see the per capita differences. It isn't enough to say those says were Happy Days where everyone was doing great. Nor am I convinced that some violent domestic crime was even reported. Quote
blueblood Posted October 17, 2008 Report Posted October 17, 2008 You said that the type of segregation didn't exist in Canada.Please give some stats about the crime rates. I'd like to see the per capita differences. It isn't enough to say those says were Happy Days where everyone was doing great. Nor am I convinced that some violent domestic crime was even reported. The national crime rate has been relatively stable since 1999, with last year's 5% decrease offsetting a 6% hike in 2003. The crime rate declined during the 1990s, after rising throughout most of the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s. Stats CanadaVisit My Website Stats Can didn't have the rate in the 50's or I couldn't find it, but this paragraph has said that the national crime rate rose in the 60's, 70's, and 80's, and plateau'd in the 90's perhaps declining slightly. I believe my point still stands. Visit My Website A biased site although it has a point. Visit My Website Macleans said we're not as goody too shoes as we seem Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
jdobbin Posted November 1, 2008 Author Report Posted November 1, 2008 http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/...-explosion.html Another explosion hit an EnCana Corp. sour-gas pipeline in B.C. Friday afternoon, this time near the small community of Tomslake, south of Dawson Creek near the Alberta border, the RCMP said."The site of an explosion was discovered at a natural gas wellhead at approximately 12:30 p.m. today," Sgt. Tim Shields said in a news release Friday. I wonder if they will get new leads from this latest attack. Quote
jdobbin Posted November 1, 2008 Author Report Posted November 1, 2008 Stats Can didn't have the rate in the 50's or I couldn't find it, but this paragraph has said that the national crime rate rose in the 60's, 70's, and 80's, and plateau'd in the 90's perhaps declining slightly. I believe my point still stands. Reporting of crimes certainly rose. Quote
Vancouver King Posted November 1, 2008 Report Posted November 1, 2008 http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/...-explosion.htmlI wonder if they will get new leads from this latest attack. All three attacks have been on sour gas lines - coincidence or is perpetrator trying to make a point without risking main pipe explosions/shutdowns? A terrorist with a conscience? The Albertan person of interest arrested previously is in jail on outstanding warrants and could not have planted this latest bomb. Quote When the people have no tyrant, their public opinion becomes one. ...... Lord Lytton
Argus Posted November 1, 2008 Report Posted November 1, 2008 All three attacks have been on sour gas lines - coincidence or is perpetrator trying to make a point without risking main pipe explosions/shutdowns? A terrorist with a conscience? No such thing. Terrorists tend to start small, and then they like the publicity and attention so much they want to make bigger and bigger bangs to get more press attention. A perfect example is the current controversy in the US regarding Obama and William Ayers. Remember that Ayers group started out blowing up statues. Pretty innocent. But they graduated into nail bombs - or would have if the bomb didn't blow up and kill them. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
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