Alta4ever Posted October 10, 2008 Report Posted October 10, 2008 To even suggest that people should not have the right to vote speaks volumes. Just another example of how Conservatives lean dangerously towards being fascists... Sorry but facism did not blossom out of libertarians and conservatives, it evolved from socialists, and progressives. Progressivism is a term that refers to a broad school of international social and political philosophies. Politically speaking, progressivisms can be described as being socially liberal. The term progressive entered the lexicon of liberal thinking in late 19th century America, in reference to a more general response to the vast changes wrought by industrialization, an alternative to both the traditional conservative response to social and economic issues and to the various more or less radical streams of socialism and anarchism which opposed them. Political parties, such as the Progressive Party, organized at the start of the 20th century, and progressivism made great strides under American presidents Theodore Roosevelt, William H. Taft, Woodrow Wilson, and Franklin Delano Roosevelt.[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivism Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
kengs333 Posted October 10, 2008 Author Report Posted October 10, 2008 Sorry but facism did not blossom out of libertarians and conservatives, it evolved from socialists, and progressives. Yeah, I guess that's why the Nazis derived much of their support from conservative, ultraconservative political parties and paramilitary organizations... Quote
Who's Doing What? Posted October 10, 2008 Report Posted October 10, 2008 (edited) To even suggest that people should not have the right to vote speaks volumes. Just another example of how Conservatives lean dangerously towards being fascists... Sure brought out the attack dogs with this one. I understand. Civil liberties arbitrarily taken away. Not allowed to vote. Not allowed to addres the HoC, or Media as an elected offical. oops! Got confused there for a second. So according to people who have responded to his quote, for the most part, it appears they feel it is OK to limit a citizen's, who happens to be an immigrant, right to vote. My question to them is: Which group of citzens would be the next one to not be given the right to vote? If this group is not allowed to vote becaue you feel they have undue loyalty to a certain party, what are you going to do to the next group that supports the opposition? FYI: It is sh!t like this, that stops me from voting Conservative. Edited October 10, 2008 by Who's Doing What? Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
M.Dancer Posted October 10, 2008 Report Posted October 10, 2008 Yeah, I guess that's why the Nazis derived much of their support from conservative, ultraconservative political parties and paramilitary organizations... The socialists had paramilitaries....so did the National Socialists...given that the National Socialist German Worker Party formed the most aggressive militia, I would think the militia derived their support form the party and not the other way round. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
kengs333 Posted October 10, 2008 Author Report Posted October 10, 2008 The socialists had paramilitaries....so did the National Socialists...given that the National Socialist German Worker Party formed the most aggressive militia, I would think the militia derived their support form the party and not the other way round. Honestly, why don't you take your own advice about reading a book... Quote
M.Dancer Posted October 10, 2008 Report Posted October 10, 2008 Honestly, why don't you take your own advice about reading a book... If you can suggest one without pop-up illustations.... Meanwhile, If you read something about logical paradoxes and posting jibberish I'll stop helping you look foolish. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
kengs333 Posted October 10, 2008 Author Report Posted October 10, 2008 If you can suggest one without pop-up illustations....Meanwhile, If you read something about logical paradoxes and posting jibberish I'll stop helping you look foolish. *yawn* whatever... Post-war Germany saw several paramilitary groups like Stahlhelm organize to counter left-wing gangs and political organizations. They eventually were integrated into the NSDAP and became part of the SA. Are you still confused by the fact that a right-wing political movement had "Socialist" in its name? Quote
cybercoma Posted October 11, 2008 Report Posted October 11, 2008 To even suggest that people should not have the right to vote speaks volumes. Just another example of how Conservatives lean dangerously towards being fascists...It used to be considered a measure of intelligence to be able to detect sarcasm. Quote
cybercoma Posted October 11, 2008 Report Posted October 11, 2008 (edited) Not really, no. Harper is pretty controlling in the manner in which he muzzles his MPs, tries to control the media. When supporters of the Cons suggest that people should not vote, that smacks of fascism. The Liberal party controls its MPs and what information the media gets as well, because a party needs to control its message. Since we're living in an era where the 7 second negative sound bite gets more airtime than full explanations and positive events, what else are they going to do? You can't have potential MPs, who must fall in line once elected anyway, running around during elections saying things that misrepresent the party. Edited October 11, 2008 by cybercoma Quote
cybercoma Posted October 11, 2008 Report Posted October 11, 2008 Have we resorted to comparing Harper to Hitler? Quote
Mr.Canada Posted October 13, 2008 Report Posted October 13, 2008 It probably costs the NDP a lot of votes. I actually like Jack Layton's style. He is by far the most interesting of the current cast to listen to. I don't agree with all of his politics but he has an "approachable" quality about him that the others seem to lack. I am starting to like the idea of Pharmacare. They have it in the UK and it works great, why not in Canada. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
capricorn Posted October 13, 2008 Report Posted October 13, 2008 I actually like Jack Layton's style. I do too. No matter Jack's performance, I wouldn't vote NDP because I can't accept their socialistic policies. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Cameron Posted October 13, 2008 Report Posted October 13, 2008 I do too. No matter Jack's performance, I wouldn't vote NDP because I can't accept their socialistic policies. I'd have to agree. I've never agreed with the socialist position they take up. I know it appeals to people who are employees because they have no real decision in how much they get paid and the NDP feeds into that with their platform. With me being self-employed I take a more Libertarianism point of view of things. I can make more money by working harder and advertising more so I want to keep the majority of the money I make. Quote Economic Left/Right: 3.25 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.26 I want to earn money and keep the majority of it.
cybercoma Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 Prime-Minister-In-Waiting Jack Layton and the NDP make pretty campaign ads. I dig the animated Stephen Harper dumping billions on the board room table. Quote
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