What type of Leader is Harper?

[independent]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leadership

Check the link and help me decide what kind of leader he is.

Is that the same as the kind of leader he thinks he is?

[independent]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leadership

Check the link and help me decide what kind of leader he is.

Is that the same as the kind of leader he thinks he is?

IS harper Autocratic. If he is the conservatives could be in trouble there is a lot of job dissatifaction involved in that kind of leadership.

[Moonbox]

Yes, he's autocratic. You've made more topics over the last few days on this or almost identical issues than I have in my entire history on this website. Tell us something new. Make a relevant point. I beg of you. I really don't want to have to keep scrolling down through the list of threads just because you posting a new "I hate Harper" thread every time I log back in.

For the record, North American leadership is typically very autocratic as a whole and it's the Europeans who have the bigger distaste for it.

Edited September 28, 2008 by Moonbox

[August1991]

IS harper Autocratic. If he is the conservatives could be in trouble there is a lot of job dissatifaction involved in that kind of leadership.

Autocratic?

I would say that Harper's starting to look more like Mackenzie King and John A. Macdonald and less like Wilfrid Laurier or Pierre Trudeau. Harper may even be a St-Laurent. We don't know yet. Mulroney paved the way for Harper and so we'll have to wait and see.

Independent, assuming you're Canadian, I suggest that you do some research into your own country's political history. For example, do you know who Edward Blake is? (And why Dion may be his copy?)

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What type of leader is Harper? So far, I'd say he's a King who can speak French. The Liberals - for the first time since Macdonald - are up against a formidable, institutional candidate.

I'd say that Canada is now, officially, a two party democracy.

[Pliny]

I would not have made my name independent.

[independent]

Autocratic?

I would say that Harper's starting to look more like Mackenzie King and John A. Macdonald and less like Wilfrid Laurier or Pierre Trudeau. Harper may even be a St-Laurent. We don't know yet. Mulroney paved the way for Harper and so we'll have to wait and see.

Independent, assuming you're Canadian, I suggest that you do some research into your own country's political history. For example, do you know who Edward Blake is? (And why Dion may be his copy?)

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What type of leader is Harper? So far, I'd say he's a King who can speak French. The Liberals - for the first time since Macdonald - are up against a formidable, institutional candidate.

I'd say that Canada is now, officially, a two party democracy.

http://www.mhs.mb.ca/docs/mb_history/43/mackenzieking.shtml

You may want to read up on the leadership of mackenzie king before you make such a comment.

[August1991]

You may want to read up on the leadership of mackenzie king before you make such a comment.

Your link is only a brief glimpse into the complexity of King. King approved the hiring of Pierre Trudeau to the PCO in 1948.

Independent, do you know of the King-Byng affair?

Stephen Harper is a PM on a Canadian scale: he's a WASP who speaks (tolerable) French and has support in (Roman Catholic) Quebec.

Canada, in all its history, has never had such a PM - a WASP PM who could speak French. Pearson's French was incomprehensible; far worse than Dion's English. Harper has a strong accent but his accent works in his favour.

Harper is the first protestant PM who can manage French. Josee Verner during her debate in Quebec noted Harper's ability to understand.

[Who's Doing What?]

Harper loves power and control. Witness the lack of freedoms one has as an MP for the CPC. HE has a few trusted attack dogs who he turns loose with a few pre-scripted responses that cover most questions faced in the HoC. All Press conferences are scripted and only "friendly" media are allowed to ask easy questions. HE makes rules that apparently apply to all but him and his party. What he condemed in the past is OK for his party to do in the present.

HE is very adept at hoodwinking the general public into believing he is giving them something, while he takes it back down the road. He has done a good job of making a mockery out of our parliamentary system while managing to avoid being held accountable for it.

This is the control and behaviour he exercises within a minority Govt.. I shudder at the thought of him with absolute power in a majority.

[Canadian Blue]

Harper loves power and control. Witness the lack of freedoms one has as an MP for the CPC. HE has a few trusted attack dogs who he turns loose with a few pre-scripted responses that cover most questions faced in the HoC. All Press conferences are scripted and only "friendly" media are allowed to ask easy questions. HE makes rules that apparently apply to all but him and his party. What he condemed in the past is OK for his party to do in the present.

Sounds like Chretien and Trudeau, and those guys were in power for nearly or over a decade.

[independent]

Sounds like Chretien and Trudeau, and those guys were in power for nearly or over a decade.

I don't think Chretien or Trudeau ever scripted anything in there lives. They just said what ever came to mind. Harper on the other hand does not know what to say if he does not have a scripted answer. He was asked if he was a vegetable what kind of vegetable would he be and he was a loss for words. Certainly the conservatives could have found a better leadership candidate than HARPER.`

[Canadian Blue]

He was asked if he was a vegetable what kind of vegetable would he be and he was a loss for words. Certainly the conservatives could have found a better leadership candidate than HARPER.`

Yes, as we all know the most important question of any political leader is what kind of vegetable they'd be. Wow independent, don't you wish that we could all vote for leaders based soley on what kind of vegetable they wish they could be.

Jeeze, the left is really starting to grasp at straws nowadays.

[Moonbox]

I don't think Chretien or Trudeau ever scripted anything in there lives. They just said what ever came to mind. Harper on the other hand does not know what to say if he does not have a scripted answer. He was asked if he was a vegetable what kind of vegetable would he be and he was a loss for words. Certainly the conservatives could have found a better leadership candidate than HARPER.`

This is by far and away the dumbest post I've ever read on these forums. The previous champion (he knows who he is) has a new level to aspire to.

If a reporter came up to me and asked me what kind of vegetable I'd be I'd tell him I don't have time to answer stupid questions from drooling retards.

Edited September 28, 2008 by Moonbox

[independent]

This is by far and away the dumbest post I've ever read on these forums. The previous champion (he knows who he is) has a new level to aspire to.

If a reporter came up to me and asked me what kind of vegetable I'd be I'd tell him I don't have time to answer stupid questions from drooling retards.

That would certainly get you elected.

[independent]

Yes, as we all know the most important question of any political leader is what kind of vegetable they'd be. Wow independent, don't you wish that we could all vote for leaders based soley on what kind of vegetable they wish they could be.

Jeeze, the left is really starting to grasp at straws nowadays.

Not an important question at all. Its just most good leaders have no trouble coming up with responses no matter how stupid the question. If you want a PM that needs scripted answers vote for him. As for me I am not impressed.

[Canadian Blue]

Not an important question at all. Its just most good leaders have no trouble coming up with responses no matter how stupid the question. If you want a PM that needs scripted answers vote for him. As for me I am not impressed.

If I was a politician here is what my first thought would be: "What the fuck is this, pre-school!!!"

But I'm glad to see that the kind of politician you want in Ottawa is the one that thinks day in and day out of what kind of vegetable he'd be. Personally, I've never thought of what kind of vegetable I'd be.

[independent]

If I was a politician here is what my first thought would be: "What the fuck is this, pre-school!!!"

But I'm glad to see that the kind of politician you want in Ottawa is the one that thinks day in and day out of what kind of vegetable he'd be. Personally, I've never thought of what kind of vegetable I'd be.

Its is an often asked question. It is supposed to tell something about you as a person but I do no how it works. Harper should learn to lighten up at bit and just be himself instead of some programed robot. You would have no problem learning what Harper the man is like would you.

[Canadian Blue]

Its is an often asked question.

I've never been asked that question, maybe when I was 6 I was asked it.

It is supposed to tell something about you as a person but I do no how it works.

Yes, I'm sure psychologists base all of their studies of the mind based on what a person's favorite vegetable is.

You would have no problem learning what Harper the man is like would you.

The only thing that this proves to me is that the left is bankrupt of any ideas. If you're biggest concern this election is wondering what kind of vegetable a leader would like to be, you have a problem.

By the way can you give me a link for this shoddy piece of pseudo-journalism.

[capricorn]

By the way can you give me a link for this shoddy piece of pseudo-journalism.

CB, see link below.

Harper handled "the vegetable" question quite well. He was very witty in his reply.

In past public appearances, the prime minister has sometimes appeared stiff and robotic, but senior officials say that, privately, Harper has a sharp, dry sense of humour.

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national...96-2a857ab5a126

To appreciate the humour in this short exchange with the media you must see it on youtube.

[Canadian Blue]

Watch it capricorn, from what I hear fruits are known to be homophobic, sexist, bigoted, and are strong believers in neo-conservatism. It's obvious that they also support a fascist ideology and hate all women. They also strongly support a laissez faire approach to the economy. The worst trait of fruit is that they also believe Canada should become a part of the United States.

Do you really want more of this?

Obviously we'd be better off with Dion whose favorite vegetable is the potato.

Edited September 29, 2008 by Canadian Blue

[independent]

I've never been asked that question, maybe when I was 6 I was asked it.

Yes, I'm sure psychologists base all of their studies of the mind based on what a person's favorite vegetable is.

The only thing that this proves to me is that the left is bankrupt of any ideas. If you're biggest concern this election is wondering what kind of vegetable a leader would like to be, you have a problem.

By the way can you give me a link for this shoddy piece of pseudo-journalism.

I am glad you can isolate parts of comments for your amusement.

[capricorn]

Watch it capricorn, from what I hear fruits are known to be homophobic, sexist, bigoted, and are strong believers in neo-conservatism. It's obvious that they also support a fascist ideology and hate all women. They also strongly support a laissez faire approach to the economy. The worst trait of fruit is that they also believe Canada should become a part of the United States.

Do you really want more of this?

:lol:

Obviously we'd be better off with Dion whose favorite vegetable is the potato.

You're wrong. Dion prefers mushrooms. They thrive and grow in manure.

[Canadian Blue]

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Edited September 29, 2008 by Canadian Blue

[Who's Doing What?]

I don't think Chretien or Trudeau ever scripted anything in there lives. They just said what ever came to mind. Harper on the other hand does not know what to say if he does not have a scripted answer. He was asked if he was a vegetable what kind of vegetable would he be and he was a loss for words.

And then he said he would be a FRUIT!

I damn near spit out my beer.

HArper the FRUIT!

Sometimes life just hands you something to brighten your day.

Edited September 30, 2008 by Who's Doing What?