Dion Misses Filing Deadline Again

[scribblet]

hmmm, and as a comment said Put up or shut up Dion. !!!

http://torydrroy.blogspot.com/2008/09/dion...line-again.html

Saturday, September 13, 2008

dion misses filing deadline again

I guess we have the answer for the question for dion. Dion personally still owes $690,000 for his "leadership" bid. That means he raised about $300000 since the Dec 3, 2006 convention. He didn't pay back the required money by the June 2008 deadline. He got an extension until December 2009. He was supposed to have made a payment of $230,000 with interest by September first. There is no evidence that dion has complied with this elections Canada requirement. Indeed from this database it looks like dion raised less than $34000 until the quarter ending in June. This is not surprising as the grits are almost broke. $690000 represents most of the party's fundraising in the last 3 months.

Why hasn't elections Canada raided dion's house? seized his car or demanded he comply with their regulations? dion says he respects elections Canada. Of course he does, They are in the pocket of the grits. Most of the MSM have ignored this breech of election financing laws. I guess this just proves their bias. Can you imagine if this was a Tory leader running in an election and had missed several filing deadlines. It would have been the front page of the red star.

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[Moonbox]

While this is certainly something that would make you raise your eyebrows, quoting a blog and then saying that elections Canada is in the Liberal pocket book really just defeats anything you would otherwise be trying to say.

[Topaz]

Is it legal for a canadian citizen to pay Dions bill? Say if someone won 15 or 20 million? Just wondering what the rules are.

[capricorn]

Is it legal for a canadian citizen to pay Dions bill? Say if someone won 15 or 20 million? Just wondering what the rules are.

I don't know of any law that would prevent anyone from paying off Dion's debt, Canadian or otherwise. So far, no takers, not even his mother.

[jdobbin]

I don't know of any law that would prevent anyone from paying off Dion's debt, Canadian or otherwise. So far, no takers, not even his mother.

The changes to the maximum amount you can donate prevents any one person from paying off the debt including the candidate. Harper made the changes so that the donor limit was even lower. It is one of the reasons Elections Canada has allowed extension to payment plans because even with a large donor base, it can take longer than what it took in the past.

[capricorn]

Jonathan Kay reported on Dion's debt problem the day before last.

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/f...a-deadline.aspx

Dion may or may not be in contravention of Elections Canada rules. What concerns me is his inability to manage this debt. I mean, the leadership convention took place December 2006. How many extensions does the man need?

[capricorn]

The changes to the maximum amount you can donate prevents any one person from paying off the debt including the candidate. Harper made the changes so that the donor limit was even lower. It is one of the reasons Elections Canada has allowed extension to payment plans because even with a large donor base, it can take longer than what it took in the past.

Thanks dobbin. I didn't know the donation rules applied to leadership conventions.

[jdobbin]

Jonathan Kay reported on Dion's debt problem the day before last.

Dion may or may not be in contravention of Elections Canada rules. What concerns me is his inability to manage this debt. I mean, the leadership convention took place December 2006. How many extensions does the man need?

The big money makers in the party are Rae and Ignatieff. They concentrated on eliminating their own debt and had begun to help Dion with his. There had been fundraisers planned for the fall for Dion.

My opinion is that is campaign will have to declare bankruptcy. The party will declare shortly after that.

[Argus]

The changes to the maximum amount you can donate prevents any one person from paying off the debt including the candidate. Harper made the changes so that the donor limit was even lower. It is one of the reasons Elections Canada has allowed extension to payment plans because even with a large donor base, it can take longer than what it took in the past.

And of course, the Liberals don't HAVE a large donor base. They've spent the last several decades cultivating rich corporate lobbyists who would pay them large amounts in order to get contracts and patronage and bills put in place to incease their profits.

[jdobbin]

And of course, the Liberals don't HAVE a large donor base. They've spent the last several decades cultivating rich corporate lobbyists who would pay them large amounts in order to get contracts and patronage and bills put in place to incease their profits.

All true. And Harper lowered the donor limit even more even more which was noted as an attempt to strangle the Liberals even more. The changes taking place were one of the reasons why Elections Canada extended deadlines.

Several years earlier, as indicated in the Globe and Mail, Elections Canada made similar extensions to Conservative and Alliance candidates to pay back their debts.

[fellowtraveller]

Is it legal for a canadian citizen to pay Dions bill? Say if someone won 15 or 20 million? Just wondering what the rules are.

Interesting thought there.... "I won $20 million and have the personal ability to make a difference in the world. I will start by paying off Stephan Dions campaign debt"

[fellowtraveller]

Harper lowered the donor limit even more even more which was noted as an attempt to strangle the Liberals even more.

Of course, the legisaltion limiting corporate, union and private donations was introduced and passed by Liberal Jean Chretien, not Harper. And the Liberals who objected to the changes made by Harper could simply have voted them down and ended his government.

[jdobbin]

Of course, the legisaltion limiting corporate, union and private donations was introduced and passed by Liberal Jean Chretien, not Harper. And the Liberals who objected to the changes made by Harper could simply have voted them down and ended his government.

True again. The lower donor limit has the ability to hamper even the Conservatives as we have seen from their last convention. One convention can put a party member over the limit.

[Moonbox]

Personally I like the restrictions. I don't want large interest groups ruling politics.

[Argus]

Of course, the legisaltion limiting corporate, union and private donations was introduced and passed by Liberal Jean Chretien, not Harper.

I always figured he did it to sabotage the Liberal Party, which he thought would be run by Paul Martin for some time to come.

And the Liberals who objected to the changes made by Harper could simply have voted them down and ended his government.

Riiiiight. I don't think that was the issue the Liberals wanted to fight an election over. They might be dumb, but they're not that dumb.

[fellowtraveller]

Riiiiight. I don't think that was the issue the Liberals wanted to fight an election over. They might be dumb, but they're not that dumb.

Do you have any insight on what issue the Liberals may have considered important enough to force an election over? They seemed to have an insatiable appetite for s**t sandwiches. Not that dumb? Given what has happened to the 'natural ruling party ' in the last 3 years, perhaps you could link to some supporting evidence?

Personally, I think that donations should allow the "Joe Volpe Exemption". Cap the donation at $100 except for children under 12, who may give up to $10,000 out of their piggybanks.