A Means Test

[gullyfourmyle]

This joke has been making the rounds for years but it makes a point that's hard to ignore but equally hard to answer:

This was written by a construction worker in Fort MacMurray - he sure makes a lot of sense to me!

I work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit.

In order to earn that pay cheque, I work on a rig site for a Fort Mac construction project. I am required to pass a random urine test, with which I have no problem.

What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test.

Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare cheque because I have to pass one to earn it for them?

Please understand -- I have no problem with helping people get back on their feet.

I do on the other hand have a problem with helping someone sit on their ass drinking beer and smoking dope.

Could you imagine how much money the provinces would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance cheque?

Please pass this along if you agree or simply delete if you don't. Hope you will pass it along though, because something has to change in this country, and soon !!!

[charter.rights]

This joke has been making the rounds for years but it makes a point that's hard to ignore but equally hard to answer:

This was written by a construction worker in Fort MacMurray - he sure makes a lot of sense to me!

I work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit.

In order to earn that pay cheque, I work on a rig site for a Fort Mac construction project. I am required to pass a random urine test, with which I have no problem.

What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test.

Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare cheque because I have to pass one to earn it for them?

Please understand -- I have no problem with helping people get back on their feet.

I do on the other hand have a problem with helping someone sit on their ass drinking beer and smoking dope.

Could you imagine how much money the provinces would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance cheque?

Please pass this along if you agree or simply delete if you don't. Hope you will pass it along though, because something has to change in this country, and soon !!!

Ah the fundamental mistake that most people make:

Taxes don't belong to us. Income taxes and sales taxes are removed before we receive our pay, or goods. If they were ours then we would have some say in how they were collected and where they could go. All taxes go to the government. Taxes are our contribution for being able to be Canadians.

When wefare consists of a substantial cheque that can be a winfall for those who refuse to work then we can ask them to qualify. The majority of people on social assistance need to be there and a few deadbeats do not diminish that fact.

My father was a social worker for decades and understood first hand that there is a need for a social safety net. And yes there are generations of families on social assistance that should NOT be there. However, it has nothing to do with their lack of desire to work and has everything to do with conditions in our society that make it more disgraceful to be the working poor than it is to accept a welfare cheque once you have been bitten.

Edited September 5, 2008 by charter.rights

[GostHacked]

Ah the fundamental mistake that most people make:

Taxes don't belong to us. Income taxes and sales taxes are removed before we receive our pay, or goods. If they were ours then we would have some say in how they were collected and where they could go. All taxes go to the government. Taxes are our contribution for being able to be Canadians.

When wefare consists of a substantial cheque that can be a winfall for those who refuse to work then we can ask them to qualify. The majority of people on social assistance need to be there and a few deadbeats do not diminish that fact.

My father was a social worker for decades and understood first hand that there is a need for a social safety net. And yes there are generations of families on social assistance that should NOT be there. However, it has nothing to do with their lack of desire to work and has everything to do with conditions in our society that make it more disgraceful to be the working poor than it is to accept a welfare cheque once you have been bitten.

And the government belongs to the people. So the Taxpayers money, is still the taxpayers money!.

[gullyfourmyle]

My father was a social worker for decades and understood first hand that there is a need for a social safety net. And yes there are generations of families on social assistance that should NOT be there. However, it has nothing to do with their lack of desire to work and has everything to do with conditions in our society that make it more disgraceful to be the working poor than it is to accept a welfare cheque once you have been bitten.

We need the safety net in our social system but to make if work better, we need a ladder to help people climb off the net and back into productive jobs instead of the way it is now where we penalize them for trying to better themselves.

[Peter F]

Please pass this along if you agree or simply delete if you don't.

Moderator - please delete.

[Peter F]

In order to earn that pay cheque, I work on a rig site for a Fort Mac construction project. I am required to pass a random urine test, with which I have no problem.

What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test

People sitting on thier arses and boozing it up aren't operating heavy equipment and/or doing your job.

There is no need for them to take random urine tests.

P.S.: please keep earing money - I appreciate it.

[Black Dog]

Could you imagine how much money the provinces would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance cheque?

A savings which would no doubt be nullified by the cost of testing people in the first place.

[AngusThermopyle]

P.S.: please keep earing money - I appreciate it.

HA!

I always figured you for a welfare loser.

[charter.rights]

And the government belongs to the people. So the Taxpayers money, is still the taxpayers money!.

That's another of the many myths people subscribe to.

Actually the "government" in Canada belongs to the Crown. It is a corporation with the authority to rule over the people in Canada. Voting is merely endorsing the person that the rich or influencial people in our communities have presented to us. We really don't have a choice, except not to vote.