Sir Paul McCartney to play on Quebec City's Plains of Abraham

[CANADIEN]

Now look at that will you! All of a sudden you know what people think! Amazing!

You were doing so well for a little while, you were almost posting in legible fashon and then you start talking about Celine and lapse into gibberish again. What I find hard to understand is the fact that you criticize others for their grammer and sentence structure whilst posting a garbled mess of your own. Please tell me that you didn't attend University because if you actually did it merely afirms the supposition that you can attend and receive a degree while being an imbecile.

Comments about leafless' English are widespread, and so are grammar and sentence structure problems. Admit it, you are targetting me for one reason - I know you for the hateful small-minded francophobe you are, and I say it.

When you something useful to contribute, let me know.

[AngusThermopyle]

Comments about leafless' English are widespread, and so are grammar and sentence structure problems. Admit it, you are targetting me for one reason - I know you for the hateful small-minded francophobe you are, and I say it.

When you something useful to contribute, let me know.

So what you are saying is that you enjoy jumping on the bandwagon. It really is ironic that someone with such a poor grasp of the English language such as yourself has the nerve to comment on anothers usage. Hypocrisy has seldom been so graphically displayed.

Sure, I admit it, for the most part I do not like French people, never have and most likely never will. That is not the reason I like to play with you though. Its actually because I can spot an idiot a mile away and they are very easy prey, most amusing, such as yourself.

Now, if you insist on responding at least attempt to do so in a form that is recognized as a legitimate language. Perhaps you should refrain from commenting on others usage of the language until you learn to speak it yourself.

[CANADIEN]

So what you are saying is that you enjoy jumping on the bandwagon.

What I am saying is that you target me for one primary reason... your hatred for Frenchies. And btw, I actually couldn't care less about the quality of Leafless' English. What makes it a riot is how he combines it with a total lack of understanding of about anything and his desire to force everyone to use English and no other language.

It really is ironic that someone with such a poor grasp of the English language such as yourself has the nerve to comment on another's usage. Hypocrisy has seldom been so graphically displayed.

by you

Sure, I admit it, for the most part I do not like French people, never have and most likely never will.

But it gets on your nerves when I show that your hatred makes you a low-life.

That is not the reason I like to play with you though.

Yeah right.

Its actually because I can spot an idiot a mile away(...)

I doubt it... you fail to see one when you look in the mirror.

Now, if you insist on responding at least attempt to do so in a form that is recognized as a legitimate language. Perhaps you should refrain from commenting on other's usage of the language until you learn to speak it yourself.

I would suggest you follow your own advice, but this site would be lacking in the entertainment value you provide. :lol:

Edited July 19, 2008 by CANADIEN

[CANADIEN]

Thirty-six hours to go... they are getting ready... apparently they are even planning to place screens in Lévis, across the river . On another note, apparently the PQ critic on language issues is trying to backtrack on his opposition to the show... he must have realized he was looking like a moron on this one.

[seabee]

I was in Québec city two days ago and believe me there is going to be a heck of a crowd. I confirm that across the river, in Lévis, they are setting up large TV screens and loudspeakers to show the live performance. The set-up can accomodate tens of thousands of people, perhaps 100,000. Right now, the entire Plains is closed to the public, and will open only end of afternoon tomorrow; one of the reason is to prevent overnight camping on the Plains. Nevertheless, there are already some people ready to sleep in their vehicles parked in a lot adjacent to the site. The authorities are expecting that immediately after the show, it will take up to four hours for everybody to leave the site.

Ironically, Pauline Marois will not be there, not because of any political or ideological reasons, but because she is in the United States to take an immerson course in ... English. If you think this is confusing, the Plains of Abraham is federal territory, but the main building on it is the Musée National du Québec; the only other building on the Plain, just beside it, is the Old Jail, which is now an administrative building of the Musée. Anyone who claims to understand Québec is wrong.

[CANADIEN]

I was in Québec city two days ago and believe me there is going to be a heck of a crowd. I confirm that across the river, in Lévis, they are setting up large TV screens and loudspeakers to show the live performance. The set-up can accomodate tens of thousands of people, perhaps 100,000. Right now, the entire Plains is closed to the public, and will open only end of afternoon tomorrow; one of the reason is to prevent overnight camping on the Plains. Nevertheless, there are already some people ready to sleep in their vehicles parked in a lot adjacent to the site. The authorities are expecting that immediately after the show, it will take up to four hours for everybody to leave the site.

Ironically, Pauline Marois will not be there, not because of any political or ideological reasons, but because she is in the United States to take an immerson course in ... English. If you think this is confusing, the Plains of Abraham is federal territory, but the main building on it is the Musée National du Québec; the only other building on the Plain, just beside it, is the Old Jail, which is now an administrative building of the Musée. Anyone who claims to understand Québec is wrong.

Unless they are actual fans of Sir Paul, politicians should just stay away. This is a music show, not a political event.

Edited July 19, 2008 by CANADIEN

[seabee]

Unless they are actual fans of Sir Paul, politicians should just stay away.

I agree, but in fact, most of them, whatever political alliegeance, have been heavily influenced in their youth by the Beattles, like so many people all around the world. Even Curzi is a fan. So I expect that many political figures will attend as private citizens.

[g_bambino]

This is a music show, not a political event.

Indeed, but the media won't let it sit that way. I had to roll my eyes when the CBC anchorwoman announced the headline of a Siiir Paul McCartney about to entertain on the Plains of Abraham, as though there was some significance to a knighted individual giving a concert in Quebec. Do they know what Chevallier de la Légion d'honneur translates to in English?

[seabee]

The people in Quebec are not bothered by the formal title. At worse, they recognize it is deserved. And the "controversy" in the city is non-existent; I know, I was there two days ago. The further away you get from Québec, the stronger the controversy. Odd.

But the show may be a bit of a flop tomorrow, for a reason that has nothing to do with politics. All weather forecasters predict rain in the evening, with a near 100% probability.

[CANADIEN]

I agree, but in fact, most of them, whatever political alliegeance, have been heavily influenced in their youth by the Beattles, like so many people all around the world. Even Curzi is a fan. So I expect that many political figures will attend as private citizens.

If they're fans, they're fans.

[Leafless]

Unless they are actual fans of Sir Paul, politicians should just stay away. This is a music show, not a political event.

This concert reeks of political correctness and political interference.

Property the concert is held on is federal land, although Quebec has a different reason for celebrating Quebec's birthday than the federal government.

Promoters are the federal government and tax payers of Canada who pay for McCartney.

Tickets are FREE-E-E-E.

Federal propaganda ( the re-written politically correct version) is alive and well

I mean how long will it be before the feds start sending vacationing Canadians down to state owned beaches.

[CANADIEN]

This concert reeks of political correctness and political interference.

Property the concert is held on is federal land, although Quebec has a different reason for celebrating Quebec's birthday than the federal government.

Promoters are the federal government and tax payers of Canada who pay for McCartney.

Tickets are FREE-E-E-E.

Federal propaganda ( the re-written politically correct version) is alive and well

I mean how long will it be before the feds start sending vacationing Canadians down to state owned beaches.

If the concert was in Saskatoon (nothing against people from Saskatoon, btw, just the first word that came to my mind), and Sir Paul was saying on stage "Frenchies are racists", you would not be screaming political correctness or political interference. But hey, we know your hatred for Quebec is such that even the idea of someone giving a concert in ENGLISH there makes you angry. After all, it is clear that for you Quebec is not part of Canada.

And the people who will attend the concert tonight are not sent there. No more than people who go to municipal, provincial or federal free access beaches are sent there by anyone but themselves.

Edited July 20, 2008 by CANADIEN

[Leafless]

If the concert was in Saskatoon (nothing against people from Saskatoon, btw, just the first word that came to my mind), and Sir Paul was saying on stage "Frenchies are racists", you would not be screaming political correctness or political interference.

No I would not.

I respect free speech.

And besides Sir Paul would never say such a thing, I think.

But hey, we know your hatred for Quebec is such that even the idea of someone giving a concert in ENGLISH there makes you angry.

Generally speaking I hold no animosity towards any Quebecer.

Some of their their politicians and political system, that is a different story.

After all, it is clear that for you Quebec is not part of Canada.

No.

The problem is, it is part of Canada.

Ad the people who will attend the concert tonight are not sent there. No more than people who go to muniipal, provincial or federal free access beaches are sent there by anyone but themselves.

They are encouraged to do so because it is free.

Many people enjoy freebies.

But freebies incorporating divisive constitutional issues and federal government propaganda are truly an embarrassment to this country.

[CANADIEN]

No I would not.

I respect free speech.

Preferably in English only, we know.

Generally speaking I hold no animosity towards any Quebecer.

:lol:

They are encouraged to do so because it is free.

Many people enjoy freebies.

But freebies incorporating divisive constitutional issues and federal government propaganda are truly an embarrassment to this country.

Better tell all those 200000 people (OK 100000 people if it rains a lot) that they are going to a political event. They are under the delusion they are going to a concert by a former Beatle. Which the vast majority of them would be willing to pay to attend.

The embarassment is you.

Edited July 20, 2008 by CANADIEN

[seabee]

FYI.

As of noon today, the wheather conditions are not as bleak as they were yesterday. The highest probability of rain according to one source, is only 40%, while another source gives only 30%. Both sources indicate that no more than one or two millimeters would fall, if any.

Good enough for a political rally with 200,000 spectators plus live TV on cable for $20. Or for a heck of a good musical performance.

Ever since he arrived in Québec, the city, hundreds of fan followed his every move, hoping to get a least a glimpse of McCartney, or if possible to get an autograph. That is almost as good as Harper or Dion.

[CANADIEN]

FYI.

As of noon today, the wheather conditions are not as bleak as they were yesterday. The highest probability of rain according to one source, is only 40%, while another source gives only 30%. Both sources indicate that no more than one or two millimeters would fall, if any.

Good enough for a political rally with 200,000 spectators plus live TV on cable for $20. Or for a heck of a good musical performance.

Ever since he arrived in Québec, the city, hundreds of fan followed his every move, hoping to get a least a glimpse of McCartney, or if possible to get an autograph. That is almost as good as Harper or Dion.

Seeing it for free then getting stuck in traffic 'till 5 in the morning, or watching it on TV for $20. If I were in the area, I would be tempted to watch it on TV.

[seabee]

And of course, one should also consider the costs of gas to get there, paying for parking (if you can find a spot reasonably close). If I were to go there today, transportation alone would cost me around $100, for a free concert.

I'll watch the show in a year or two when it is likely to be shown on regular TV, free of charge, save for the popcorn.

[seabee]

As of 6;30 pm, the weather is just cloudy in Québec, chances of rain are now negligeable. From helicopter views, tens of thousands of people are already on site. Not a sign of protest anywhere. A major street close by is occupied by hundreds, if not thousands of people walking towards the site. No reason to believe it will not be a major success. Except, of course, for the garbage to be picked up later.

[Oleg Bach]

As of 6;30 pm, the weather is just cloudy in Québec, chances of rain are now negligeable. From helicopter views, tens of thousands of people are already on site. Not a sign of protest anywhere. A major street close by is occupied by hundreds, if not thousands of people walking towards the site. No reason to believe it will not be a major success. Except, of course, for the garbage to be picked up later.

What are they celebrating?

[seabee]

What are they celebrating?

The 400 hundred years since the birth of Québec.

[g_bambino]

Promoters are the federal government and tax payers of Canada who pay for McCartney.

Federal propaganda ( the re-written politically correct version) is alive and well

Well, I'm fine with any propaganda that helps Quebec sovereigntists along in making themselves look like idiots. Monsieur Archambault and his PQ supporters asked Sir Paul to show the same compassion for les Québécois that he does for the seals hunted off the coast of Newfoundland every year. As the Toronto Star put it:

Comparing supposedly downtrodden Québécois to battered baby seals is certainly novel... [T]he sovereignist paradigm of competing victimhoods had elevated the petitioners from self-pity to self-parody.

Sir Paul and Gen. Wolfe

With this, and Duceppe's near implosion in the House over the federal viceroy being in France to promote the 400th, les souveraintistes are digging themselves a roomy grave.

Edited July 21, 2008 by g_bambino

[Leafless]

What I am saying is that you target me for one primary reason... your hatred for Frenchies. And btw, I actually couldn't care less about the quality of Leafless' English. What makes it a riot is how he combines it with a total lack of understanding of about anything and his desire to force everyone to use English and no other language.

And why not?

The English language is the undisputed majority language of communication in Canada.

You almost make it sound as if I have the same influence and power as the federal government who linguistically discriminate against English speaking Canadians.

The problem with you is you simply do not understand the corrupt manner the federal government is implementing and promoting autocratically, an obsolete, useless minority language, at the expense of tax paying, law abiding majority English speaking Canadian citizens.

You are free to speak whatever language you want to speak and you know that.

[g_bambino]

The problem with you is you simply do not understand the corrupt manner the federal government is implementing and promoting autocratically, an obsolete, useless minority language, at the expense of tax paying, law abiding majority English speaking Canadian citizens.

Maybe nobody understands the government's corruption because it doesn't exist anywhere but in your own head. The ministers of the Crown are all still accountable to the House of Commons - yes, that body elected by us. Again, you're just whingeing because nobody's changing things to the way you want them. You want official bilinugalism struck down? Get off your ass and start a national movement. Whining on an internet forum certainly isn't going to do much.

[CANADIEN]

And why not?

The English language is the undisputed majority language of communication in Canada.

You almost make it sound as if I have the same influence and power as the federal government who linguistically discriminate against English speaking Canadians.

The problem with you is you simply do not understand the corrupt manner the federal government is implementing and promoting autocratically, an obsolete, useless minority language, at the expense of tax paying, law abiding majority English speaking Canadian citizens.

You are free to speak whatever language you want to speak and you know that.

What can i say? I do not understand what does not exist.

Nice by the way, that you acknowledge that I can speak whatever language I want to speak when...

you have whined about immigrants who speak their native language at home

you are constantly whining about regulations that allow (rightly) citizens of Ottawa to speak in either English or French when obtaining municipal services

you have said that Ontario should proclaim English to be the sole official language of commerce (in other words, no use of other languages in commerce)

And btw, as a Canadian and an Ontarian, I am free to use either French or English when communicating with either government, and we both know how that irks you.

Edited July 21, 2008 by CANADIEN

[capricorn]

On Montreal late night talk radio, an anonymous source said Sir Paul was paid $6M for his performance. Organizers have consistently evaded the question of Sir Paul's fee, saying only that peripheral revenues would make up for the cost. A few asked that since the taxpayer was paying Sir Paul's fee, why wasn't the concert telecast on the public broadcaster. Very good question!

Callers who attended the concert were thrilled at the performance and had nothing but praise for the 66-year old ex-Beatle. He apparently charmed his audience. He greeted the estimated 200,000 fans with this: "Bonsoir toute la gang." He performed some 36 songs. How many performers are that generous with their fans?

All went well with no major incidents. Skies were clear and everyone made it home. This was truly a historic moment for Quebec City.