Brenda Martin's Mother calls out PM Harper

jbg · April 23, 2008

Women are masters of their own fate making good and bad choices.

And men aren't and don't?

Drea · April 23, 2008

"Personal Chef"

That's what she said, she was her employers "personal chef".

How dubious is that?

Very, IMO.

Has anyone checked her credentials? Is she an actual chef or just some woman cooking for some crook? Did she sleep with her "employer"? Did she also do windows?

"personal chef" my butt.

Argus · April 24, 2008

True of all countries on European continent as well.

Is that true? How the hell do you prove a negative? If I accuse you of child molesting, are you telling me you have to PROVE you didn't molest the child, while the government doesn't have to prove you did?

Argus · April 24, 2008

We spend 2 weeks in Mexico every year. No issues. Will continue to enjoy the sun and culture along with over a million other Canadians (who don't break Mexican law)

And if for whatever reason, pure happenstance or bad luck, you run afoul of a crooked Mexican cop or anyone else with power down there you'll be on TV crying for help from the government and insulting it for not declaring war on Mexico.

oreodontist · April 24, 2008

And if for whatever reason, pure happenstance or bad luck, you run afoul of a crooked Mexican cop or anyone else with power down there you'll be on TV crying for help from the government and insulting it for not declaring war on Mexico.

Actually we don't try to scam the Mexicans for thousands of dollars....a country that can ill afford it . So don't worry. We won't be calling you in the middle of the night shedding tears and making up some ridiculous story so the gullible will come to the rescue.

'I'm not guilty. Boo hoo'

Well. Ok then, off you go. Sorry about that.

Shakeyhands · April 24, 2008

Actually we don't try to scam the Mexicans for thousands of dollars....a country that can ill afford it . So don't worry. We won't be calling you in the middle of the night shedding tears and making up some ridiculous story so the gullible will come to the rescue.
'I'm not guilty. Boo hoo'

Well. Ok then, off you go. Sorry about that.

Did she?

Argus · April 24, 2008

Actually we don't try to scam the Mexicans for thousands of dollars....a country that can ill afford it . So don't worry. We won't be calling you in the middle of the night shedding tears and making up some ridiculous story so the gullible will come to the rescue.
'I'm not guilty. Boo hoo'

Well. Ok then, off you go. Sorry about that.

Oh, so as long as you're not guilty you have nothing to worry about? Mexican police are not notoriously violent and corrupt? Their judiciary is not also notoriously crooked? The government isn't crooked?

I don't know if this woman is or is not guilty. According to reports there wasn't a lot of evidence, hardly any, in fact, and there are also reports the judge wrote his decision before the case was held. Who knows? The point I'm making is not that Martin is innocent, it's that it really doesn't matter if you're innocent or not in a shithole like Mexico. If you come to the attention of anyone with power they will do with you whatever they chose, and there will be absolutely nothing you can do about it.

oreodontist · April 24, 2008

Millions of Canadians travel to Mexico every year. Hundreds of thousands have condos, etc. We'll continue to go and feel quite safe. I've never been arrested or hastled by the police, but then again I wasn't a 'personal cook' for a criminal and ended up with 20 grand.

Of course the fellow hasn't implicated her. He's not an idiot. Do you think they were caught for ALL the scams they pulled off. Implicate 'the cook :rolleyes: ' and she starts pulling out the dirty laundry and neither of them ever get out of prison.

Folks who actually travel and spend time in Mexico get a giggle over this story....the funniest part being someone bringing 'a cook' to Mexico. It's probably the last occupation after house cleaner you'd brinhireg an outsider for and at the end of it all... give her 20 grand.

Argus · April 24, 2008

Millions of Canadians travel to Mexico every year. Hundreds of thousands have condos, etc. We'll continue to go and feel quite safe. I've never been arrested or hastled by the police, but then again I wasn't a 'personal cook' for a criminal and ended up with 20 grand.

I don't know that I've ever needed the police on my street. It's quite a safe street, and there's been no fires there either.

By your way of thinking, there would be no problem if there were no police or fire department, because, hey, we've never needed them in the past.

I prefer to live and travel to places where there are real and honest legal systems, and cops who don't hold their hands out for bribes every time they stop your car.

Topaz · May 1, 2008

Brenda Martin is on her way home today and should be here soon. How much time she will have to serve is still a question.

fellowtraveller · May 1, 2008

I am officially weary of Brenda Martin, her friends and her family.

The Candian govt has done far more than it would normally do for Canadian criminals abroad.

Enough already.

I sincerely hope she jams a cork in her piehole and is never heard from again, after she thanks those who worked hard to get her back here.

capricorn · May 1, 2008

The Candian govt has done far more than it would normally do for Canadian criminals abroad.
Enough already.

It's never enough when the taxpayers foot the bill. This case has set a precedent on how our government deals with Canadians convicted abroad. I now expect the opposition will dig up all the names of all Canadians imprisoned abroad and hammer the Conservatives to save them post haste, and bring them home.

If I got myself into a pickle in a foreign country, regardless of how long I was abroad, I would expect to be treated no less than the way Brenda Martin was treated. Evidently, it is my right as a Canadian citizen.

guyser · May 1, 2008

If I got myself into a pickle in a foreign country, regardless of how long I was abroad, I would expect to be treated no less than the way Brenda Martin was treated. Evidently, it is my right as a Canadian citizen.

If you were railroaded like her, I hope they do come to your aid. She may be guilty of the charges, but apparently there is no evidence that even comes close to implicating her. I think that is a difference.

But yeah.. Im tired of her too.

AngusThermopyle · May 1, 2008

But yeah.. Im tired of her too.

Me too.

Leafless · May 1, 2008

If you were railroaded like her, I hope they do come to your aid. She may be guilty of the charges, but apparently there is no evidence that even comes close to implicating her. I think that is a difference.
But yeah.. Im tired of her too.

Do you know the specifics of her case? I don't and I doubt not very many Canadians do.

If you don't, then don't post insignificant, erroneous B.S. with citing proof.

guyser · May 1, 2008

Do you know the specifics of her case? I don't and I doubt not very many Canadians do.
If you don't, then don't post insignificant, erroneous B.S. with citing proof.

Well we know you don't, but that is hardly surprising. Certainly doesnt stop you.

On the other hand....

I have read enough to understand that she is likely not guilty in the sense they dont have the goods on her.

Reading comprehension is paramount my old friend.

Leafless · May 1, 2008

Well we know you don't, but that is hardly surprising. Certainly doesnt stop you.
On the other hand....

I have read enough to understand that she is likely not guilty in the sense they dont have the goods on her.

Reading comprehension is paramount my old friend.

If your so sure of yourself, then quote you sources and share your information with the rest of your fellow members.

This is a forum and not a guyser 'one way street'.

guyser · May 1, 2008

quote you sources and share your information with the rest of your fellow members.

When I quote a fact I will be sure to include the link.

fellowtraveller · May 2, 2008

I don't care if she is guilty or innocent.

I'm sick of her either way.

I have no doubt at all that she has an agent working on the TV movie deal already.

Leafless · May 2, 2008

When I quote a fact I will be sure to include the link.

This proves your statements to date, relating to this thread are erroneous and FACTLESS.

Leafless · May 2, 2008

I don't care if she is guilty or innocent.
I'm sick of her either way.

I have no doubt at all that she has an agent working on the TV movie deal already.

I'm sick of her to.

But I find it strange a Canadian tax payer would not object to abetting criminal activities and padding the Canadian legal profession with public tax dollars.

She was found guilty in Mexico and that is where she should be serving her sentence.

Why the hanky panky?

guyser · May 2, 2008

This proves your statements to date, relating to this thread are erroneous and FACTLESS.

Wow , you are correct. I did not state a fact. Thanks for the obvious.

Seems Brenda could be out of jail before days end. She qualifies for parole under our system. Oh boy, sweet deal.

Leafless · May 2, 2008

Wow , you are correct. I did not state a fact. Thanks for the obvious.
Seems Brenda could be out of jail before days end. She qualifies for parole under our system. Oh boy, sweet deal.

And that Mexican judge probably learned his lesson...don't ever deal with corrupt Canadians again.

HisSelf · May 2, 2008

I don't know the specifics of the case but I sure am glad I am not going to have to watch this woman cry her Picasso tears on national TV any more. She is getting out early because she was tried in the media in Canada and found innocent. Whether that is justified or not will hopefully be exmined in detail by a credible journalist or two (damend few of those IMHO) at some point.

In any case, this should be a lesson for all of you who might find it glamorous to go off into the wild blue yonder with a backpack strapped to your shoulders. If you think that you are protected by your innocence, you are naive. And if you think the Canadian government will come to your rescue, you had damn well better have a friend like Brenda Martin did.