AngusThermopyle Posted April 4, 2008 Report Posted April 4, 2008 If they did care, they'd dump Harper and pick a leader who could actually win a majority by appealing to centrist voters. Thats pretty good. Criticize Harper for his leadership skills. Have you by any chance noticed the absolutely stellar leaders the other parties are fielding at the moment? The others couldn't win a pissing match if they were locked in an outhouse. Quote I yam what I yam - Popeye
Argus Posted April 4, 2008 Report Posted April 4, 2008 Immigration Minister Diane Finley: "We have to make it easier to get more people here faster." Yes, but that does not at all mean the same as "We have to take in more people than we are now." Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted April 4, 2008 Report Posted April 4, 2008 Monte Solberg. The 2007 immigration target was a 5.2% increase over the 2006 target according to Finley's predecessor:http://www.canada.com/topics/news/politics...464&k=65299 From the story: The Tory government has set one of the most aggressive immigration targets in the last 15 years in a move that some immigration experts say is carefully designed to woo votes among new Canadians So as with the Liberals, immigration is not governed by what is best for Canada but what is best, politically, for the party in power. Disappointing, but hardly a surprise. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
normanchateau Posted April 4, 2008 Report Posted April 4, 2008 Thats pretty good. Criticize Harper for his leadership skills. Have you by any chance noticed the absolutely stellar leaders the other parties are fielding at the moment? I'm not claiming his opponents have stellar leadership skills. However, Harper's leadership skills are not of much help to his party given that most Canadians are centrists. Harper got elected because Canadians were angry with the Liberals, not because Canadians suddenly embraced social conservatism. Harper remains lower in most polls today than when he won the election in January, 2006. That he can't rise much higher than Dion, despite the advantages of incumbency and the greatest increase in federal spending in the history of Canada, does not bode well for Harper as leader. Quote
normanchateau Posted April 4, 2008 Report Posted April 4, 2008 Yes, but that does not at all mean the same as "We have to take in more people than we are now." Agreed Quote
normanchateau Posted April 4, 2008 Report Posted April 4, 2008 So as with the Liberals, immigration is not governed by what is best for Canada but what is best, politically, for the party in power. It would be difficult to argue against the notion that major federal parties are determined to court the immigrant vote. Quote
scribblet Posted April 4, 2008 Report Posted April 4, 2008 Thats pretty good. Criticize Harper for his leadership skills. Have you by any chance noticed the absolutely stellar leaders the other parties are fielding at the moment?The others couldn't win a pissing match if they were locked in an outhouse. Have to agree on that one, and certainly we now have a PM we can be proud of, rather than say - bumbling Dion, or Chretien. However, Canadians are so brainwashed with Left wing proganda that voters are still gullible enough to buy into the rhetoric and smears. You can bet the next Federal election will see a lot of negative attack ads from the Liberals as they do not have much else to go on. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
normanchateau Posted April 4, 2008 Report Posted April 4, 2008 The others couldn't win a pissing match if they were locked in an outhouse. So why is Harper tied with Dion in most polls? Quote
jdobbin Posted April 4, 2008 Report Posted April 4, 2008 Harper got elected because Canadians were angry with the Liberals, not because Canadians suddenly embraced social conservatism. Harper benefited from the RCMP ensuring that Ralph Goodale's name was listed in an investigation during the election. Five RCMP senior officers declined to be questioned by the Complaints Commissioner on the whole affair. The issue of whether the RCMP tried to influence the election remains unanswered. Quote
normanchateau Posted April 4, 2008 Report Posted April 4, 2008 Harper benefited from the RCMP ensuring that Ralph Goodale's name was listed in an investigation during the election. Five RCMP senior officers declined to be questioned by the Complaints Commissioner on the whole affair.The issue of whether the RCMP tried to influence the election remains unanswered. Thanks for reminding me that was the turning point. I wonder why the Conservatives haven't called an inquiry into finding out why the RCMP investigated Goodale and whether the RCMP initiated or was asked to do so. Quote
guyser Posted April 4, 2008 Report Posted April 4, 2008 So why is Harper tied with Dion in most polls? They both like golden showers ? or They are both piss poor at being charismatic? Quote
guyser Posted April 4, 2008 Report Posted April 4, 2008 and certainly we now have a PM we can be proud of, We do? Who is he? It sure isnt Harper. (none are any better tho) Quote
normanchateau Posted April 4, 2008 Report Posted April 4, 2008 and certainly we now have a PM we can be proud of It depends on how you define "we". Some Canadians aren't proud of a PM who would impose mandatory six month jail sentences for one marijuana plant. A majority of Canadians favour legalization yet Harper has moved to criminalize further: http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/view/16300 Some Canadians aren't proud of a PM who would attempt to take away their legal right to marry under the guise of re-visiting the definition of traditional marriage. Some Canadians aren't proud of a PM who has acknowledged on tape that financial considerations were offered to a dying MP in an unsuccessful attempt to change his vote. Some Canadians aren't proud of a PM who has increased government spending by more than any PM in the history of Canada. Some Canadians aren't proud of a PM who has squandered a multibillion dollar surplus on handouts to Quebec while failing to lower income tax rates. Quote
scribblet Posted April 4, 2008 Report Posted April 4, 2008 We do? Who is he? It sure isnt Harper. (none are any better tho) I believe it is Harper of course, one of our better PMs so far Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
normanchateau Posted April 4, 2008 Report Posted April 4, 2008 It sure isnt Harper. It depends on the criterion. If the criterion is the largest increase in government spending in the history of Canada and squandering the multibillion dollar surplus while convincing his gullible supporters that he's actually a fiscal conservative who's only pretending to be a big spender in order to win a majority, Harper's the man: http://andrewcoyne.com/columns/2007/03/fla...ig-spenders.php Quote
guyser Posted April 4, 2008 Report Posted April 4, 2008 I believe it is Harper of course, one of our better PMs so far this century Better now....you can say that, but not "we" . Quote
normanchateau Posted April 4, 2008 Report Posted April 4, 2008 I believe it is Harper of course, one of our better PMs so far this century Yes, he ranks number three so far. Quote
scribblet Posted April 4, 2008 Report Posted April 4, 2008 Better now....you can say that, but not "we" . It was the 'royal we' LOL Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Argus Posted April 5, 2008 Report Posted April 5, 2008 Harper benefited from the RCMP ensuring that Ralph Goodale's name was listed in an investigation during the election. Five RCMP senior officers declined to be questioned by the Complaints Commissioner on the whole affair.The issue of whether the RCMP tried to influence the election remains unanswered. It was answered by the ombudsman last week, who said no. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
jdobbin Posted April 5, 2008 Report Posted April 5, 2008 It was answered by the ombudsman last week, who said no. Actually, he said he wasn't sure. Part of the reason is because five RCMP refused to see him and state why Goodale was listed in the investigation. Quote
scribblet Posted April 6, 2008 Report Posted April 6, 2008 (edited) (scriblett @ Apr 4 2008, 02:36 PM) *I believe it is Harper of course, one of our better PMs so far this century ]Better now....you can say that, but not "we" I didn`t say that, you`ve changed my post in the quote - that is not ethical. Edited April 6, 2008 by scriblett Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
guyser Posted April 6, 2008 Report Posted April 6, 2008 I didn`t say that, you`ve changed my post in the quote - that is not ethical. You cant be serious. Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted April 6, 2008 Report Posted April 6, 2008 Here's something they should change, and its not racist: If you are a doctor or a nurse you go to the front of the line. Tadow! Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Argus Posted April 6, 2008 Report Posted April 6, 2008 Here's something they should change, and its not racist: If you are a doctor or a nurse you go to the front of the line. Tadow! Okay, and people like you who believe in this can be in that special group who winds up being treated by these "doctors" and "nurses" from Asshat Albania who speak little or no English. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Topaz Posted April 9, 2008 Report Posted April 9, 2008 One Tory commented that the Libs had 50,000 at the beginning of Chretien term and when the tories took it over they were 800,000. The reasoning for that is everyone now wants to come to Canada because of our healthcare, besides the fact they may have family here. If the Tories start to fast track people through how many "terrorists" could get in. Perhaps, Harper wants more mexicans in to take up the lower level jobs and help Bush out, and to help with the NAU come to be in the future. Quote
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