John Long Posted March 20, 2008 Report Posted March 20, 2008 (edited) Following is full text of a news report headlined "Disfigured woman found dead after French court rejects euthanasia" in the link http://sg.news.yahoo.com/afp/20080320/tts-...ia-509a08e.html COPIED ARTICLE DELETED by moderator The title of this thread has been edited to be more specific of the subject matter. The new title is recent euthanasia debate in France, When one finds that every second is Hell. The old title was When one finds that every second is Hell. Edited March 20, 2008 by Charles Anthony deleted re-copied article Quote
gc1765 Posted March 20, 2008 Report Posted March 20, 2008 Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxembourg are the only European Unions that currently allow euthanasia. As long as there is consent, it blows my mind why anyone would not allow someone to die. I've always found it ironic that most of the opposition to euthanasia comes from people who claim to believe in small government... Quote Almost three thousand people died needlessly and tragically at the World Trade Center on September 11; ten thousand Africans die needlessly and tragically every single day-and have died every single day since September 11-of AIDS, TB, and malaria. We need to keep September 11 in perspective, especially because the ten thousand daily deaths are preventable. - Jeffrey Sachs (from his book "The End of Poverty")
John Long Posted March 20, 2008 Author Report Posted March 20, 2008 As long as there is consent, it blows my mind why anyone would not allow someone to die. I've always found it ironic that most of the opposition to euthanasia comes from people who claim to believe in small government... Well said! But make sure that euthanasia is not abused and used as a cover for murder by individuals or for execution by tyrants or massacres by invading forces. In my opinion, there should be sufficient guarantee by public witnesses that the person who asks for it has given his full consent. Quote
gc1765 Posted March 20, 2008 Report Posted March 20, 2008 Well said! But make sure that euthanasia is not abused and used as a cover for murder by individuals or for execution by tyrants or massacres by invading forces. In my opinion, there should be sufficient guarantee by public witnesses that the person who asks for it has given his full consent. Sounds very reasonable to me... Quote Almost three thousand people died needlessly and tragically at the World Trade Center on September 11; ten thousand Africans die needlessly and tragically every single day-and have died every single day since September 11-of AIDS, TB, and malaria. We need to keep September 11 in perspective, especially because the ten thousand daily deaths are preventable. - Jeffrey Sachs (from his book "The End of Poverty")
John Long Posted March 20, 2008 Author Report Posted March 20, 2008 Thank you, moderator Charles Anthony, for editing the article and inserting the link. At least, readers can view the horrifying photo and see for themselves how the poor woman had been suffering. Quote
guyser Posted March 20, 2008 Report Posted March 20, 2008 As long as there is consent, it blows my mind why anyone would not allow someone to die. I've always found it ironic that most of the opposition to euthanasia comes from people who claim to believe in small government... We do in fact have euthanasia in this country. It just isn't legal . "Do not resuscitate" (DNR) on a chart is euthanasia since it is allowing the person to die. There are no signatures required yet it occurs all the time. Medication and the dose amounts given to patients causes them to die all the time, and that is done knowingly and with consent. But it should be legal and above board. Quote
eyeball Posted March 22, 2008 Report Posted March 22, 2008 We do in fact have euthanasia in this country. It just isn't legal . "Do not resuscitate" (DNR) on a chart is euthanasia since it is allowing the person to die. There are no signatures required yet it occurs all the time. Medication and the dose amounts given to patients causes them to die all the time, and that is done knowingly and with consent. But it should be legal and above board. I think DNR on a chart or even a living will is fundamentally different than self-directed euthanasia. Both are a far cry from willfully wanting to abort your own life despite the fact you could still possibly live for years. That said my inclination is to treat euthanasia as we do DNR. It should be an issue that is strictly between a person, their loved one's and their doctor. I'd leave the state the hell out of it. I also share the fear that legalized euthanasia could lead some people to the slippery slope of murder, execution or massacres. I'm not as fearful of the invaders that John Long describes as I am of the sorts of governments that might arise if the "small government" crowd actually ever does gets into power. Ironically and despite their claim they'll get the government off the people's backs these same people typically elect governments that increase public spending for more police, more prisons and more armed forces - the heaviest things a state can bring to bear on people. Legalized euthanasia is the very last thing I want this sort of state to have. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
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