Michael Bluth Posted January 11, 2008 Report Posted January 11, 2008 Yep, Just angry. How's that working for ya? Better than opposition is working for ya? Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Argus Posted January 11, 2008 Report Posted January 11, 2008 Well, I guess the point is that the Liberals can attract high profile female candidates. When was the last time that the conservatives drew a profiled female candidate.I am surprised by the short-sightedness of the Cons on this score. I guess they really are just angry and not smart. I am trying to remember over the last 30 odd years of government - most of it Liberal - the prominent Liberal ministers who had power. I can't think of any off hand, except maybe Mclellan, who benefited from being from Alberta, where the Liberals desperately needed to show they had some representation. Sheila Copps was a joke, and kept around as high profile window dressing with minor portfolios. All major Liberal cabinet ministers, the ones with the power and prestige and responsible, important jobs, since Trudeau have been men. The women who found their way into cabinet were there, like Copps, as window dressing, and to appeal to this or that demographic or geographic group in need of wooing. The PC's had powerful women in important positions, like McDougal and McDonald and Campbell. But the Liberals don't appear to trust women in important positions To hear Liberals sneer at the Conservative party as "male dominated" is a joke. All parties are male dominated - even the NDP - whose most prominent members have no balls to speak of. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Oleg Bach Posted January 11, 2008 Report Posted January 11, 2008 Belinda had her own agenda...power. She didn't take the time required to have a "voice" in the Conservative Party. Things were not moving fast enough for her. Had she crossed the floor and stayed as a backbench Liberal I would have had more respect for her. But, she jumps ship and instantly became a Minister in Martin's cabinet. Now, that's politics. Exactly! To bad Belinda did not have a thing called principle, it might have been useful. Crossing the floor is fraud - if you are elected on a certain basis - for instance you sign a contract to have apples delivered and the apples are paid for, then suddenly the apples are not delivered so you wait and THEN a truck arrives and dumps off a ton of perfectly round river stones....This would be a breach of contract - the social contract that Belinda had with the people who originally voted her in. This is a sign of a crimminal mentality - good that she is gone....besides I was getting tired of her dated feminist rhetoricals that always consisted of "I am not comfortable with that" apparently she has been to comfortable for too long and has spoiled like a bad apple - Power for powers sake always leads to abuse..always! Quote
margrace Posted January 11, 2008 Report Posted January 11, 2008 Some time ago I, along with several other women, was invited to attend a conference on wife abuse. It was a very interesting conference and I never forgot some of the speakers. But later at the meet and greet there were a group of men standing not far talking, one was the attorney general. He was asked where his wife was and he replied "At home where all wives should be" then he seemed to realize what he had said, it was not in jest. I don't think the attitude toward what I hear call the "Little Women" has changed much. A joke on white weddings going around right now is the when a little boy asked his father why women wore white wedding gowns he was told that all kitchen appliances were white. Quote
White Doors Posted January 11, 2008 Report Posted January 11, 2008 While I wouldn't say it's true that the tories don't think women are a priority for the party, but if they weren't could we really blame them? Look what Kim Campbell did to them for Christ sakes! There is more to people than wether they have boobies or not. Quote Those Dern Rednecks done outfoxed the left wing again.~blueblood~
Carinthia Posted January 11, 2008 Report Posted January 11, 2008 While I wouldn't say it's true that the tories don't think women are a priority for the party, but if they weren't could we really blame them?Look what Kim Campbell did to them for Christ sakes! There is more to people than wether they have boobies or not. Excuse me, the correct terminology would be "breasts". You're the boob! Quote
jdobbin Posted January 11, 2008 Author Report Posted January 11, 2008 Liberals should also be concerned since they have to raid other parties (Beatty, former NDP) to boost the number of women Liberal candidates. A provincial NDP does not always make for a federal NDP in my experience. Quote
Michael Bluth Posted January 11, 2008 Report Posted January 11, 2008 A provincial NDP does not always make for a federal NDP in my experience. Especially when a seat at the Federal cabinet table has been offered ... Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
jdobbin Posted January 11, 2008 Author Report Posted January 11, 2008 I am trying to remember over the last 30 odd years of government - most of it Liberal - the prominent Liberal ministers who had power. I can't think of any off hand, except maybe Mclellan, who benefited from being from Alberta, where the Liberals desperately needed to show they had some representation. Sheila Copps was a joke, and kept around as high profile window dressing with minor portfolios. All major Liberal cabinet ministers, the ones with the power and prestige and responsible, important jobs, since Trudeau have been men. The women who found their way into cabinet were there, like Copps, as window dressing, and to appeal to this or that demographic or geographic group in need of wooing. The PC's had powerful women in important positions, like McDougal and McDonald and Campbell. But the Liberals don't appear to trust women in important positions There was some senior ministers in Paul Marton's cabinet. As you say, McLellan was Deputy Prime Minister. Judy Sgro was Immigration minister. Lucienne Robillard was Belienda Stronach were Human Resources ministers. Robillard also had Industry and later International Trade. All were inner cabinet members. Those weren't great numbers overall but they were senior positions. There are presently no senior female ministers in Harper's government except in the Senate. Quote
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