Queen's University has "whiteness and maleness" issues..

kengs333 · November 22, 2007

Here's something interesting. Apparently there qre problems at Queen's when it comes to race and sex, and again the big boogie persons are whites and males. I tried to find statistics for the university but all I could find were the stats for the class of 2011, and those did not include anything on race. It did show that male-to-female ration is 43% to 57%, and I would suspect that this is consistant with previous years. Most universities have a higher female population than male; this has been the case for quite some time, but evidently this is not an issue. I know that my university was certainly in the same boat, and in terms of "visible minorities" my university has quite a high number, and this seems to have increased in recent years. Anyone know where there are stats about Queens that would clarify this supposed "whiteness and maleness" problem.

http://www.thewhig.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx...auth=Ian+Elliot

Michael Hardner · November 22, 2007

To be fair, the report was about the faculty situation, which would be slower to adapt than the student population would.

It would have been better if the article in question quoted some statistics, to explain how this report determined that there was a problem with faculty turnover.

In short, there may be a problem but they haven't done a good job in explaining why. Of course, these are academics, so we're just supposed to trust them - they know.

cybercoma · November 22, 2007

The male to female ratio doesn't seem out of whack to the general population ratio.

M.Dancer · November 22, 2007

The gender ratio I believe is what is known as a Target Rich Environment for the competitive male student.....

Moxie · November 23, 2007

Who really cares, as long as the classes are full and productive does race or sex matter? NO.

cybercoma · November 23, 2007

Who really cares, as long as the classes are full and productive does race or sex matter? NO.

If they're out of balance, it could be an indication of unfair acceptance practices. So, do they matter? The answer is not as clear as yes or no, it's more like maybe.

scribblet · November 23, 2007

If they're out of balance, it could be an indication of unfair acceptance practices. So, do they matter? The answer is not as clear as yes or no, it's more like maybe.

Not necessarily, they could be hiring based strictly on merit and qualitifications, and if so is that wrong?

cybercoma · November 23, 2007

Not necessarily, they could be hiring based strictly on merit and qualitifications, and if so is that wrong?

The important words used in your post were, "not necessarily", which gives way for the chance that it's not based on your reasons. In my post, I said it "could" be an indication, not that it necessarily was so.

Like I said, the answer to "does race and sex matter," is not a definitive yes or no, it's a maybe.

jennie · November 23, 2007

Five years in the making, the Henry Report found the university has a hard time retaining qualified faculty who are either aboriginal or from a visible minority group and that students, faculty and administrators all play a role in a culture of "whiteness and maleness" at Queen's.

It isn't about hiring ... it is about keeping them. The Queens 'culture' doesn't encourage them to stay.

M.Dancer · November 23, 2007

Five years in the making, the Henry Report found the university has a hard time retaining qualified faculty who are either aboriginal or from a visible minority group and that students, faculty and administrators all play a role in a culture of "whiteness and maleness" at Queen's.
It isn't about hiring ... it is about keeping them. The Queens 'culture' doesn't encourage them to stay.

So the tail should wag the dog? I would think a regular paycheck should be encouragement enough.....unless of course yoiu are a hot commodity like a first nations prof.....there is always another institution willing to pay more than the last to have John Redcorn teaching new age healing....and that in a nutshell is how Queen's culture doesn't encourage then to stay....they don't always make a counter offer......