Hey Alberta, shortage of service workers in Ont.

[margrace]

Heard a hiring manager on the news last night for one of Ontario's largest tourist resorts complaining last night that they now have to pay $10 an hour just to get people to wash dishes. Oh dear, how sad. How can anyone survive on $10 an hour.

[old_bold&cold]

Heard a hiring manager on the news last night for one of Ontario's largest tourist resorts complaining last night that they now have to pay $10 an hour just to get people to wash dishes. Oh dear, how sad. How can anyone survive on $10 an hour.

While $10 an hour is not great pay. So is the service of washing dishes not a demanding job. Most of it is just loading and unloading the dishwashere, and basic kitchen maintenance. It never was meant to be a job some one could aspire to. But the $10 per hour does give that person a basic living where if he had to, he could live in a boarding house and still afford some of the things in life that one wants. It will never support a family though. It is a very good wage for a College student trying to make ends meet. So yes there are many sides to this.

If who ever id willing to do dishwashing, has any sort of work ethic, we could easily go on to short order cook and maybe even a chef. But that takes ambition, and I hate to say that many at that level have little of that. In may area there seems to be a large shortage of people willing to do manual work in warehouses etc. Even forklift drivers are in demand and they pay well over $20.00 per for that level. The trades are lacking people willing to enter them and stick with an apprenticeship. These are very well paying jobs and easy to raise a family on them. Canada has lots of opprtunities for people willing to work. The trouble is they also have many social programs to make it just as easy not to work.

[margrace]

While $10 an hour is not great pay. So is the service of washing dishes not a demanding job. Most of it is just loading and unloading the dishwashere, and basic kitchen maintenance. It never was meant to be a job some one could aspire to. But the $10 per hour does give that person a basic living where if he had to, he could live in a boarding house and still afford some of the things in life that one wants. It will never support a family though. It is a very good wage for a College student trying to make ends meet. So yes there are many sides to this.

If who ever id willing to do dishwashing, has any sort of work ethic, we could easily go on to short order cook and maybe even a chef. But that takes ambition, and I hate to say that many at that level have little of that. In may area there seems to be a large shortage of people willing to do manual work in warehouses etc. Even forklift drivers are in demand and they pay well over $20.00 per for that level. The trades are lacking people willing to enter them and stick with an apprenticeship. These are very well paying jobs and easy to raise a family on them. Canada has lots of opprtunities for people willing to work. The trouble is they also have many social programs to make it just as easy not to work.

All that is very interesting and true but the comment about $10 an hour was mine, their concern that even at that wage they could not get staff. It seems we are heading into a huge shortage of not only available dishwashers but electricians, plumbers, brick layers, carpenters etc. Us old fellows are going to have to pay through the nose to get any of these services.

[Michael Bluth]

All that is very interesting and true but the comment about $10 an hour was mine, their concern that even at that wage they could not get staff. It seems we are heading into a huge shortage of not only available dishwashers but electricians, plumbers, brick layers, carpenters etc. Us old fellows are going to have to pay through the nose to get any of these services.

Much better than the opposite side of the coin with huge unemployment numbers and nobody having the cash to pay for any services.

Still don't understand the Hey Alberta part of the title.

[Borg]

Interesting.

Two relatives - both in college - worked last summer in the western part of Canada. They made just over $12,000 dollars each.

One college kid worked in Ontario and was happy to find a job at 12 bucks an hour. She is moving west next summer.

Want the help you gotta pay - eastern business has had it easy for a few years.

The west bound lane of most Canadian provinces is starting to get beat up with all the travel to the pariries.

Sooner or later it will turn around, but not for a bit.

Borg

[geoffrey]

All that is very interesting and true but the comment about $10 an hour was mine, their concern that even at that wage they could not get staff. It seems we are heading into a huge shortage of not only available dishwashers but electricians, plumbers, brick layers, carpenters etc. Us old fellows are going to have to pay through the nose to get any of these services.

Your right. All because kids are taking BA's in Greek and Roman Studies rather than working. The vast majority of people in university should not be there, they should be in trades and other jobs... they'll end up their eventually anyways.

Why we waste our time putting people through years of education to only have an "I'm better than that" attitude later shocks me. If kids paid the true cost of university out of pocket, we wouldn't have alot of the said labour shortages.

Still don't understand the Hey Alberta part of the title.

She thinks it's our fault. Which it partially is. Another reason for us to leave Canada.

[Fain]

Heard a hiring manager on the news last night for one of Ontario's largest tourist resorts complaining last night that they now have to pay $10 an hour just to get people to wash dishes. Oh dear, how sad. How can anyone survive on $10 an hour.

Easy to survive on $10 an hour. It's even easy to put money aside working $10 an hour. Us college kids make it look easy

[Hydraboss]

Oh no!!! Alberta is forcing Ontario businesses to pay $10/hour for workers!!!

So?

Margrace, aren't you one of the people who was bitching that poor, downtrodden people couldn't live on the pittance that Alberta employers were paying (you know, when I posted that my labourers were ONLY making 60 grand a year)???????

Can't you find someone else to blame for your situation other than Albertans? It doesn't matter what we do out here, you're going to find fault with us. I suggest that you quit looking west.

[margrace]

Oh no!!! Alberta is forcing Ontario businesses to pay $10/hour for workers!!!

So?

Margrace, aren't you one of the people who was bitching that poor, downtrodden people couldn't live on the pittance that Alberta employers were paying (you know, when I posted that my labourers were ONLY making 60 grand a year)???????

Can't you find someone else to blame for your situation other than Albertans? It doesn't matter what we do out here, you're going to find fault with us. I suggest that you quit looking west.

Exactly what is my situation? My son has just worked two 24 hour shifts straight through because the hotel he works in can't get help and is applying for permission to bring in off shore help. And the hotels in Banff have been in trying to raid their staff.

Edited November 1, 2007 by margrace

[geoffrey]

He wasn't forced to work them, he wanted to. He can always go elsewhere. Plus I'm sure he's making alot more than if Alberta wasn't so desperate for people.