Did the Conservative cheat taxpayers?

[Topaz]

Again to day, the Cons were asked about their hiding of overspending and the Libs even had how they did it. As the saying "What goes away comes around" just maybe for the Cons. I really don't which party is being accused of wrong doing, voters will not stand for abusing out taxes! IF this is true, then I hope the press will get invlove to either prove or disaprove these charges. By watching the reaction to the question several times over, one could see the surrounding members of the Cons were very sober faces and wished the question would go away. The Libs admitted that if throne speech had been brought down then, they, the Libs couldn't bring this out into the open. I just want to know the truth.

[old_bold&cold]

This is being taken to the courts and then it will be decided by the courts and not the ever lieing cheating opposition flap traps. But lets say that it does go against them. That would mean something of a hair splitting issue where 1.2 million is involved, would have to be reapid etc and so on. Just how does thatin any way compare to 250 million sponsorship scandel, where there is no hair splitting but envelopes of cash being exchanged in resturants. Or the Billion dollar Boondogal, where the government just lost a billion or two. Just in what world is this even comparable.

As I said, it is an issue where the CPC has taken elections Canada to court over this, and we will have to wait and see who the courts say is wrong before you can assign blame. I highly doubt that the courst will rule with elections Canada on this.

[Michael Bluth]

This is being taken to the courts and then it will be decided by the courts and not the ever lieing cheating opposition flap traps. But lets say that it does go against them.

Nobody, not even Elections Canada, has accused the Conservatives of misusing taxpayer money.

The case involves whether or not the Conservatives spent more party money than was allowed last election.

[jdobbin]

This is being taken to the courts and then it will be decided by the courts and not the ever lieing cheating opposition flap traps. But lets say that it does go against them. That would mean something of a hair splitting issue where 1.2 million is involved, would have to be reapid etc and so on.

Hardly hairsplitting. If they lose the court case, they will have broken the law. They can blame the Liberals all they want for previous behaviour but this would be all on them. The consequences of breaking the law can be a fine and prison for all those in violation.

http://www.elections.ca/content.asp?sectio...;textonly=false

[old_bold&cold]

Hardly hairsplitting. If they lose the court case, they will have broken the law. They can blame the Liberals all they want for previous behaviour but this would be all on them. The consequences of breaking the law can be a fine and prison for all those in violation.

http://www.elections.ca/content.asp?sectio...;textonly=false

I repeat big deal. It is not as if this was clearly a broken law as it was common practice used by all the parties before. You the same person who takes receiving a holiday greeting as an act of invasion of privacy, carry no weight about right and wrong, when it comes to nit picking.

So what if the courts find in the CPC favour, should we fine those lieing loud mouth Liberals for lible? You know that the Liberals are going to take a dirt nap in the next trip to the poles, and the party is trying to get all its paid people to post what ever dirt they can think of no matter what, as they desperately need the voters to turn away for a while so they can possibly hide, what is really going on and get the old backroom guys maybe back in action. That is the only reason for this, and you know it. It has no value as a news story and that is why the media is slowly getting sick of the Liberals. You make everyone look bad with this small minded narrow thinking.

So until the courts rule, you are just spreading half truths and speculations. I guess when your a liberal even a straw is a good thing to grab as you sink to new depths. Better go ask Dion what farce they will use next

[jdobbin]

I repeat big deal. It is not as if this was clearly a broken law as it was common practice used by all the parties before. You the same person who takes receiving a holiday greeting as an act of invasion of privacy, carry no weight about right and wrong, when it comes to nit picking.

Never heard of the this common practice of putting money in and out like the Tories did this past election. Do you have a citation for that?

[Michael Bluth]

So until the courts rule, you are just spreading half truths and speculations. I guess when your a liberal even a straw is a good thing to grab as you sink to new depths. Better go ask Dion what farce they will use next

Exactly.

Even the champion of the Liberals has ignored how patently false the thread title is.

[Topaz]

Election Canada said it had found the Cons had transferred large sums of money into bank accounts across Canada to their candidates which were is legal. The problem is, the candidates then sent the money back to the party's head office to pay for advertising on radio and TV, expenses the candidates later claimed to recieve government reimbursements, the figure is 1.2 million. Elections Canada has also said there are 66 cons filings did not,in their view, respect the election legislation, so..... we'll let the courts decide!

[geoffrey]

No, the candidates didn't get their money back and that's why they are suing.

It's the CPC that initiated this court action. Your so blinded by partisanship you can't even get your facts straight.

[Canuck E Stan]

Never heard of the this common practice of putting money in and out like the Tories did this past election. Do you have a citation for that?

Enough dirt to go around in campaign finance allegation

However, the affidavits make a pretty strong case that if the Conservatives were guilty of operating an "electoral laundromat," as Liberal Dominic LeBlanc has asserted, by passing off national advertising as local campaigns, then the Liberals, NDP and Bloc were also up to their elbows in soap suds. The only difference appears to be that they had their expenses reimbursed by Elections Canada without a quibble.

In one case, the affidavits state that all New Brunswick Liberal candidates, including Mr. LeBlanc, the point-man in attacking the Conservatives over their campaign activities, participated in a regional media buy organized by the national party. "The content of the ads, but for the names of the candidates, is entirely national," the filing states, adding that it appears the invoicing was processed by the national party because it was not listed in Mr. LeBlanc's return. Mr. LeBlanc did not return calls yesterday.

In total, the Conservative filing said that the national Liberal party made about $1.7-million in monetary transfers to its local candidates in the 2006 election and invoiced its local candidates $1.3-million for goods and services provided to them.

The new affidavit does offer some suggestions as to why Elections Canada suddenly deemed this type of spending offside, after a long period when it was considered standard practice by all parties.

Seems everyone did it and isn't any kind of revelation.

[geoffrey]

The consequences of breaking the law can be a fine and prison for all those in violation.

Probably just will have to teach a course in professional ethics at McGill.

[AngusThermopyle]

Hardly hairsplitting. If they lose the court case, they will have broken the law. They can blame the Liberals all they want for previous behaviour but this would be all on them. The consequences of breaking the law can be a fine and prison for all those in violation.

That being the case I guess they should start building a bigger jail. Gotta have somewhere to put all those "pure as the wind driven snow" Liberals.

[Keepitsimple]

The National Post aticle posted above by Canuck E. Stan explains in perfect detail how this whole thing is a tempest in a teapot - orchestrated by the Liberals to try and get the spotlight off their complete incompetence. This is just another issue that will bite back at the Libs - just another example as to why the whole party needs to be blown up and reconstructed from the ground up. They are overdue to start that long walk in the wilderness.

[shavluk]

Nobody, not even Elections Canada, has accused the Conservatives of misusing taxpayer money.

The case involves whether or not the Conservatives spent more party money than was allowed last election.

And the answer is yes ,, isn't it?

And because of their stupid illegal games they will now lose seats to the GREEN PARTY WATCH!

[jdobbin]

Enough dirt to go around in campaign finance allegation

Seems everyone did it and isn't any kind of revelation.

Go after all of them if that is the case.

[scribblet]

Good for Ibotson, I love this one:

that if the Conservatives were guilty of operating an "electoral laundromat," as Liberal Dominic LeBlanc has asserted, by passing off national advertising as local campaigns, then the Liberals, NDP and Bloc were also up to their elbows in soap suds. The only difference appears to be that they had their expenses reimbursed by Elections Canada without a quibble.

better get the bleach out too !!

[shavluk]

I , of course , as a GREEN Party candidate should be concerned with and about THEIR !! SUDS ????? I don't think so.

http://www.greenparty.ca/en/node/3088

If they all did it , which would not surprise me

Well Yes , I guess it is less serious to those of us who see all of them as ridiculous any way and if they really don't care about the law or the intent to defraud taxpayers and voters

Well maybe because we the GREENS haven't shown ourselves as lacking this moral fortitude ,,yet we GREENS may just get a deservedly better view.

Lets just see shall we?