bush_cheney2004 Posted October 31, 2007 Report Posted October 31, 2007 My pet theory is that CSIS, Mossad and/or the US CIA may be watching the outflow of that $12.5 million, since that is a lot to spend on a steak dinner out. What do you think?1 I would agree that Muher Arar will be watched for the rest of his life, now that he has means and motive regardless of "innocence". He will always be on somebody's list. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
jbg Posted November 1, 2007 Report Posted November 1, 2007 I would agree that Muher Arar will be watched for the rest of his life, now that he has means and motive regardless of "innocence". He will always be on somebody's list.And there's nothing wrong with "following the money", especially with someone who seemingly has little use for $12 million. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Higgly Posted November 1, 2007 Report Posted November 1, 2007 And there's nothing wrong with "following the money", especially with someone who seemingly has little use for $12 million. There most certainly is something wrong with following the money. Monitoring the accounts of terrorist organisations is one thing, but invading the privacy of law-abiding citizens is quite another. Quote "We have seen the enemy and he is us!". Pogo (Walt Kelly).
jbg Posted November 2, 2007 Report Posted November 2, 2007 There most certainly is something wrong with following the money. Monitoring the accounts of terrorist organisations is one thing, but invading the privacy of law-abiding citizens is quite another.Arer is either not law abiding or law abiding by the narrowest of criteria. I see nothing wrong with applying the Reagan Doctine (applicable to treaties with the Soviets) of "trust, but verify". Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Higgly Posted November 2, 2007 Report Posted November 2, 2007 (edited) Arer is either not law abiding or law abiding by the narrowest of criteria. Where is your proof? What is he guilty of? Being Arab? Your post reminds me of something the black comunity in Toronto used to say when they were always being pulled over for nothing. Guilty of DWB - Driving While Black. Edited November 2, 2007 by Higgly Quote "We have seen the enemy and he is us!". Pogo (Walt Kelly).
jbg Posted November 2, 2007 Report Posted November 2, 2007 Where is your proof? What is he guilty of? Being Arab?Ask the government that asked the US not to return him to Canada. As they would have said "a proof is a proof". Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Guest American Woman Posted November 3, 2007 Report Posted November 3, 2007 Ask the government that asked the US not to return him to Canada. As they would have said "a proof is a proof". Do you have a source saying Canada asked the U.S. not to return him to Canada? As far as I know, Canada just refused our terms. Two very different things. Quote
Higgly Posted November 4, 2007 Report Posted November 4, 2007 Stop trying to slough off. What is he guilty of and where is your proof, JBG? Quote "We have seen the enemy and he is us!". Pogo (Walt Kelly).
jbg Posted November 4, 2007 Report Posted November 4, 2007 Stop trying to slough off. What is he guilty of and where is your proof, JBG?See above. A proof is a proof.But seriously, why his choice of countries in which to vacation? And why didn't Canada tip off the US? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Guest American Woman Posted November 4, 2007 Report Posted November 4, 2007 See above. A proof is a proof.But seriously, why his choice of countries in which to vacation? And why didn't Canada tip off the US? He wasn't vacationing there. His wife is from Tunisia and her family still lives there, and I think, fell on hard times, though I'd have to confirm that. It was speculated, by the Canadian government, that Arar and his wife had moved there. He was looking for work, but with little success. Not that there's anything wrong with vacationing in Tunisia. Why would you question someone's choice of vacation destination? As I already pointed out, it's on the Mediterranean. Why wouldn't someone vacation there? And .... Why didn't Canada tip off the U.S. about what? Quote
jbg Posted November 5, 2007 Report Posted November 5, 2007 And .... Why didn't Canada tip off the U.S. about what? Canada asked the US to deport him. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Guest American Woman Posted November 5, 2007 Report Posted November 5, 2007 Canada asked the US to deport him. I'd like you to provide a link to a source backing up that claim, because Canada did not ask the U.S. to deport him. Quote
Fortunata Posted November 5, 2007 Author Report Posted November 5, 2007 Is some sort of personal attack part of every post of yours?And why would you be surprised when a leader in a democracy admits a mistake? It's not as if the consequences would be a beheading. You're just mad because I caught you lying again. I could have said, brace yourself, prepare yourself, but I chose that instead. Big deal. People that don't claim to be as smart as you claim to be got it. As far as admitting a mistake, usually no big deal. Bush_Cheney2004, iirc, has said something to the effect that the USA doesn't make mistakes, it makes choices. That's why all that. PS - if you don't want to be caught out in a lie, don't lie. Quote
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