jbg Posted October 14, 2007 Report Posted October 14, 2007 Try to keep in mind, we went from the hottest decade on record, "the dirty thirties" to an ice-age scare in approx 30 years. From an ice age scare we've gone to a global warming scare in approx 30 years. The only constant is scare. I would assume this because many who go into environmental science, go into it to save the planet. Emotion has no place in science.I agree with you that weather is cyclical and not manmade. The one point I will cede Gore, in his fraudulent diatribe, is that climate change, even if natural, brings greater hardships to modern, nonmigratory populations than it did when the only people being pushed around by advancing and retreating glaciers were a few migratory Inuits and FN's.Other than that, Gore's crock-u-mentary is pure hogwash. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
jefferiah Posted October 14, 2007 Report Posted October 14, 2007 (edited) So Michael Jackson and Britney Spears have won awards. And of course those awards are on par with the Nobel Peace Prize. Talk about sour grapes. As for Bush not being jealous-- Sure. He's happy just to have been nominated. No I think you missed the point. The person who wins artist of the year in the grammy's for instance is probably really nowhere near the artist some of the film score composers are who win the awards they give out in a seperate ceremony. Not that I am comparing Bush to that composer either. I am just saying--- Awards are just awards. Now you said he is happy to have been nominated. You meant that as a joke, of course. But its an interesting thing to say. Had Bush actually been nominated or had the Nobel Peace Prize been a goal he had aspired to, then I would see there being a possibility of jealousy, but I don't think people just off the wall get jealous over who wins a Nobel Peace Prize. I am not a Bush or Gore fan (I dont know much about either, really)...so no sour grapes from here. It's not a hockey game, so its not like my team lost (which they did tonight). But truthfully Bush does not strike me as the sort who would really care about something like that, anyway. Edited October 14, 2007 by jefferiah Quote "Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu
Guest American Woman Posted October 14, 2007 Report Posted October 14, 2007 Now you said he is happy to have been nominated. You meant that as a joke, of course. But its an interesting thing to say. Had Bush actually been nominated or had the Nobel Peace Prize been a goal he had aspired to, then I would see there being a possibility of jealousy, but I don't think people just off the wall get jealous over who wins a Nobel Peace Prize. Bush has actually been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize, or I wouldn't have made the comment. In 2004, I believe, but I'd have to look it up to confirm that. So that means you can see there being a possiblity of jealousy, according to your response. Quote
jefferiah Posted October 14, 2007 Report Posted October 14, 2007 (edited) Bush has actually been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize, or I wouldn't have made the comment. In 2004, I believe, but I'd have to look it up to confirm that. So that means you can see there being a possiblity of jealousy, according to your response. Possible perhaps, probable---I dont think so. Sour grapes? I dont understand why it would be sour grapes to think that he would not be jealous. Edited October 14, 2007 by jefferiah Quote "Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu
Guest American Woman Posted October 14, 2007 Report Posted October 14, 2007 Possible perhaps, probable---I dont think so. Sour grapes? I dont understand why it would be sour grapes to think that he would not be jealous. Possible and probable, in my opinion. I don't think it's sour grapes to think he would not be jealous, though, nor have I ever said that. What I did say is the threads about his win are full of "sour grapes" responses. I see the old claim that Gore said he invented the internet has even been trotted out more than once. Quote
jbg Posted October 14, 2007 Report Posted October 14, 2007 http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/nobel_peaceThe price of Bush Continued war in Afghanistan ... billions Continued war in Iraq ... billions Continued deficits ... more billions Al Gore winning an Oscar and a Nobel in the same year: priceless What does your portion of the post have to do with Al Gore winning Nobel Prize? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
jdobbin Posted October 14, 2007 Author Report Posted October 14, 2007 What does your portion of the post have to do with Al Gore winning Nobel Prize? Aside from the fact that the reversal of fortunes of the two men are being mentioned by pretty much every commentator, nothing. However, if you're lucky, the Supreme Court will in a stunning reversal award the Nobel Prize to Bush. heh Quote
Guest American Woman Posted October 14, 2007 Report Posted October 14, 2007 (edited) Gore's documentary won an Emmy, Oscar, and the Nobel Peace Prize giving Gore the Trifecta. I find it intersting that Britains' PM gave a personal statement about the winners but Bush had a White House spokesperson speak for him. Edited October 14, 2007 by American Woman Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 14, 2007 Report Posted October 14, 2007 A thousand more accolades for Al Gore will never make up for not winning what he and his party truly wanted and spent millions to get. He can spend the prize money on his outrageous carbon footprint. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest American Woman Posted October 14, 2007 Report Posted October 14, 2007 A thousand more accolades for Al Gore will never make up for not winning what he and his party truly wanted and spent millions to get. He can spend the prize money on his outrageous carbon footprint. And the "sour grapes" responses continue .... Gore's life ain't over yet, BC. He wouldn't be the first candidate to run, lose, run again-- and win. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 14, 2007 Report Posted October 14, 2007 And the "sour grapes" responses continue .... Gore's life ain't over yet, BC. He wouldn't be the first candidate to run, lose, run again-- and win. Errrr....that would only emphasize my point. Even a bad day as POTUS is better than the best day as Nobel Prize winner. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest American Woman Posted October 14, 2007 Report Posted October 14, 2007 Errrr....that would only emphasize my point. Even a bad day as POTUS is better than the best day as Nobel Prize winner. According to you, so I was merely responding along your line of thought. Hate to break it to you, but Gore is hot right now. He's doing what he wants to be doing-- and he's doing it well. Real well. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 14, 2007 Report Posted October 14, 2007 According to you, so I was merely responding along your line of thought. Hate to break it to you, but Gore is hot right now. He's doing what he wants to be doing-- and he's doing it well. Real well. Sorry, but you typed the response....thanks for reinforcing my point. Gore is not "hotter" than the internal combustion engine, literally and figuratively. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest American Woman Posted October 14, 2007 Report Posted October 14, 2007 (edited) Sorry, but you typed the response....thanks for reinforcing my point. Gore is not "hotter" than the internal combustion engine, literally and figuratively. Yep. I did. For the reason I stated. But thanks just the same for pointing out the obvious. And do keep those "Sour Grapes" responses coming-- you're making Gore's win even more enjoyable. Edited October 14, 2007 by American Woman Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 14, 2007 Report Posted October 14, 2007 (edited) Yep. I did. For the reason I stated. But thanks just the same for pointing out the obvious. And do keep those "Sour Grapes" responses coming-- you're making Gore's win even more enjoyable. Of course...it will go a long way to erasing that awful Gore-Loserman label....LOL! Congratulations Big Al.....somebody still loves you! Edited October 14, 2007 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest American Woman Posted October 14, 2007 Report Posted October 14, 2007 "Loserman?" You gotta be kidding. !! Thanks for going over and above to make this win even more enjoyable for me, B_C2004. That's really thoughtful of you and I truly do appreciate it. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 14, 2007 Report Posted October 14, 2007 "Loserman?" You gotta be kidding. !! Thanks for going over and above to make this win even more enjoyable for me, B_C2004. That's really thoughtful of you and I truly do appreciate it. No problem....keeping Gore in the IPCC's pocket is far better than keeping him in the White House. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
scribblet Posted October 14, 2007 Report Posted October 14, 2007 This British Judge sees through it, U.K. Judge Rules Gore's Climate Film Has 9 Errors By Mary Jordan Washington Post Foreign Service Friday, October 12, 2007; Page A12 LONDON, Oct. 11 -- A British judge has ruled that Al Gore's Oscar-winning film on global warming, "An Inconvenient Truth," contains "nine errors." High Court Judge Michael Burton, deciding a lawsuit that questioned the film's suitability for showing in British classrooms, said Wednesday that the movie builds a "powerful" case that global warming is caused by humans and that urgent means are needed to counter it. But he also said Gore makes nine statements in the film that are not supported by current mainstream scientific consensus. Teachers, Burton concluded, could show the film but must alert students to what the judge called errors. read more here http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...7101102134.html Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
jazzer Posted October 15, 2007 Report Posted October 15, 2007 This British Judge sees through it,U.K. Judge Rules Gore's Climate Film Has 9 Errors By Mary Jordan Washington Post Foreign Service Friday, October 12, 2007; Page A12 LONDON, Oct. 11 -- A British judge has ruled that Al Gore's Oscar-winning film on global warming, "An Inconvenient Truth," contains "nine errors." High Court Judge Michael Burton, deciding a lawsuit that questioned the film's suitability for showing in British classrooms, said Wednesday that the movie builds a "powerful" case that global warming is caused by humans and that urgent means are needed to counter it. But he also said Gore makes nine statements in the film that are not supported by current mainstream scientific consensus. Teachers, Burton concluded, could show the film but must alert students to what the judge called errors. read more here http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...7101102134.html The judge ain't no climatologist. Just more politics. Quote
M.Dancer Posted October 15, 2007 Report Posted October 15, 2007 The judge ain't no climatologist. Just more politics. But Gore is? Notwithstanding that the Judge's job was to weigh the facts, facts that were incorrect in Gore's flick. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Guest American Woman Posted October 16, 2007 Report Posted October 16, 2007 The judge ain't no climatologist. Just more politics. Politics financed by Big Business, as it turns out. What a surprise. Quote
M.Dancer Posted October 16, 2007 Report Posted October 16, 2007 Politics financed by Big Business, as it turns out. What a surprise. But like Gore's film, hard facts about the Big Business finacing are hard to find. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
M.Dancer Posted October 16, 2007 Report Posted October 16, 2007 (edited) redundant post Edited October 16, 2007 by M.Dancer Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Guest American Woman Posted October 16, 2007 Report Posted October 16, 2007 ...hard facts about the Big Business finacing are hard to find. Only for those who'd rather not see/find them. Quote
M.Dancer Posted October 16, 2007 Report Posted October 16, 2007 Only for those who'd rather not see/find them. .....Oh I'm sure if they were so apparent, you would post them, n'est ce pas? Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
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