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GM put all its eggs in the SUV basket. 50% of all new car sales. The advertising campaign was outstanding. They also had the benefit that there is a 25% duty on all light trucks coming into the USA from foriegn markets... Which made it extremely difficult for the Japanese car makers to compete. Hindsight says that this was a very foolish decision putting all of their eggs in one basket.... but that's what they did...

McQuaig is SO outdated, it's not even funny. On what kind of wisdom do you base this kind of statement. This isn't outdated... it actually has todays date on it.... and it is pertanent to our immediate political situation..... A bit of a credibility problem here...Actually... not worth even answering this one....

It's that kind of whacky thinking that is democracy's great weakness - and might eventually endanger it.One cent from every Canadian is nothing, and wouldn't be noticed at all. But together, it could mean $300,000 for me. Now then, how far will I go in getting Paul Martin's ear and convincing him of my scheme? I couldn't help but not how you didn't quote or address the next lines in the Linda McQuaig quote... If you think in terms of investment, putting this money into health care could prevent the cries about how we need a parallel system because this one is too slow... and other such Conservative tripe.... Because these things don't seem to be priorities for Conservative types, do they... Well, they certainly don't appear important to August, who'd rather get a new toaster oven on her counter than have an MRI machine at her local hospital.

Thanks for noticing. As the original article mentioned, fear of reprisal maintained the silence. Amongst the coverage of this event, I have read that there was an element at the school that simply did not respect the authority of the administration and teachers. Bringing in counsellors does not provide security. Perhaps some police might have. More on that later. Did you study psychology?? that bit about these hoods not respecting authority was just brilliant... However, the lack of councillors for this girl to go to when the problem started, the lack of anyone to turn to, prevented her from turning to them... didn't it. Granted, we can't be sure that this girl would have gone to a councillor, but her friends may have... Would it be more likeley that you'd call the cops (councillors) if there were some cops (councillors) to call ??? We'll never know... maybe "market forces" will tell us later.... Now this is particularly interesting. Do you want counsellors in schools, or do you want cops in school? Counsellors are not cops. Can't get anything past your sharp eyes... I likened cops and councillors in the above quote as people that you would go to when in distress. I wasn't suggesting that they put cops in the school, but really, if the school is that bad, maybe it would be a good idea to put the school on a cop's beat... My whole post was relating how Mike Harris' funding cuts to our schools have lead to horrible consequences. (Actually, this is only one of many places his cuts have hurt the general public) Maybe Mike Harris didn't want these kinds of things to happen, but it appears that he didn't care too much if they did.... If policing the schools is what's required to control the problems, then why not do it... It's "common sense", but not Mike Harris's kind of common sense... His kind of common sense would put security around a wealthy business owner's property... or have the police shoot some Indians to get them out of a park. pretty poor job stereotyping....

The promised Liberal tax cuts, intended to buy votes, could be better spent on providing services that the government should provide. The following is an exept from Linda McQuaig's column in today's Toronto star. The entire article can be seen at the following link: Buying votes at expense of building country a waste, Linda McQuaig

The war in Iraq had NOTHING TO DO WITH DEMOCRACY... It had EVERYTHING TO DO WITH OIL and POWER in the middle-east. If the USA really wanted to promote democracy, why didn't they want Saudi Arabia to become a democracy.... I'll help you with the answer... The USA has a deal in place with the Saudi royal family to guarantee them their power, and the USA will use military might if she must to prevent democracy in Saudi Arabia. How about the democratically elected Mossedegh government in Iran in the 50's... The USA participated in a coup to tear down this government that wanted to nationalize their OIL.... (note that this word is recurring when discussing the USA and democracy)... This lead to the reign of the Shah of Iran, and the extremist state that continues to exist there today... Here, again, we see that the USA sees that the power of OIL is more important than the power of Democracy.... Enter Hugo Chavez... He has lots of OIL... and is Demoratically elected... But he marches to a different drummer. And the USA partipated in a coup to take him out of power in 2002... and you can bet they'll try again.... I'd say that the USA's definition of DEMOCRACY is spelled "HYPOCRACY". And I'm glad Canada has the good sense to stay clear of that....

The video camera that caught her being dragged into a stairwell... do you think maybe it might have made a difference if there was anyone to perform a "security" function at a school that's obviously crying for it ???? Obviously, you share Mike Harris's opinion that tax breaks are more important. It's more important that the tax dollars go to good decent folk with nice houses than being spent on the low-life scum in the poorer schools... It's just too bad this kind of stuff makes it onto the news, isn't it ??? Now we'll have to waste more taxpayers money on making sure the schools are "safe".... Throwing money at them won't help, will it. ???? Do we have any more good Conservative catch phrases to try to distance the Conservatives from the direct consequences of their policies ??? And with all your wisdom, could you enlighten us to how you can be sure that this girl (or one of her friends) might not have talked to a councillor had the school not laid them off. Kimmy, you sure must be really really smart to know all these things that nobody else knows.. Would it be more likeley that you'd call the cops (councillors) if there were some cops (councillors) to call ??? We'll never know... maybe "market forces" will tell us later.... Supposing those councillors called the police.... or is that only a ridiculous impractical "lefty" thing that no good red-blooded councillor would do....

It is unfortunate, Speaker, that you take such a view of markets. It is as if, seeing the O. J. Simpson verdict, you argued in favour of getting rid of juries. I have to agree with speaker, and try to deal in realities. It is the lack of markets that has brought on these problems. I believe it is the lack of reality that lead you to the position you've chosen. When markets and stockholders profits supercede responsibility to ones self, neighbours, children, and environment, and planet, we have to wonder if the motive is just greed or greed mixed with stupidity. Huh? Was it the word tenaciously that you didn't understand ???

That wasn't what they were saying last year before they put on grandma's dressing gown to try to catch up with Liberal Red Riding Hood.... On either health care or abortions.... Paul Martin outdid even Brian Mulroney for slashing program funding and giving the money to Corp Canada. He was far more Conservative than Joe Clark too... He's only in the centre if you've moved the right way further to the right and reframed the picture... Which is exactly what I expect you've done... And I suppose I could just as well ask you to accept the facts..... rather than re-shape them to fit your target picture...

You've said the same about the federal Liberals. Is there anyone you don't think is conservative? I mean, short of Fidel Castro? We seem to have three main choices: Extreme Right Wing: - the CPC Party Conservative: - the Liberal Party (using the Mulroney/pre-Mulroney definition of Conservative) Non-Conservative: - the NDP In my view, there's only one choice.....

If you read the previous posts, you might have discovered that the topic of "not having adequate support staff, like councillers" was brought up, and that I linked this directly to Mike Harris. I never suggested that Mike Harris had anything to do with molesting the girl, or directly encouraging it. However, Mike Harris's actions can be directly linked to the removal of many of the safegaurds that could have prevented or put an early stop to the ongoing criminal behaviour of some of the students. Suggesting that Mike Harris's (and the Conservative party's) cuts to the school system have nothing to do with the situation in schools is akin to denying that the decimation of a police force in a community has anything correlation with a resultin escaltion of crime in the same community.

Even if that were the case, don't you think that Clinton embracing Kyoto, and stating that the USA has to participate is a step in the right direction. Pushing for a vote to endorse Kyoto, even though the Senate is stacked against it isn't a bad thing. When compared to "it's not true", "that's bad science", and other statements refuting the existance of global warming that come from Bush, I'd take Clinton's side any day. Bush is controlled by Big Oil.... not what is best for his people. He has shown on many occasions that he is not afraid to boldfaced lie to the public....

Had you, or anyone else, bothered to read the title of the thread, you'd have noticed that I in no way claimed that the Conservatives were involved in this. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> This is true... Trudeau never once linked the pamphlet to the CPC party, You have as little intellectual honesty as IMT. Both of you are too full of hate for your political opponents to write a post without spittle hitting your monitor. Ah, right... I hadn't noticed the second line in the title prior to now. I guess Trudeau was stating that Steve Harper's CPC party don't need to make the false accusations that the Liberals "promote child porn", this time. I clearly remember the previous election campaigns, when Steve Harper and his CPC party kept harping (not pun intended) on that Paul Martin and his Liberals promoted child porn and other forms of perversion.... So actually, the second line of the title does seem to be quite fitting, wouldn't you think.... Steven Harper doesn't have to sling these false accusations at Paul Martin this time because there's another right wing nutbar doing it in Harper's stead this time. Harper doesn't have to be seen as he was in previous campaigns (with dirt on his hands). If Trudeau had accused the CPC of encouraging the nutbar to imitate what Steve Harper did in previous election campaigns, then maybe you'd have a point.... But that not being the case, you don't have a valid argument. PS. What kind of tissue do you use to clean the spittle from your monitor?

I don't know that I can really say that (publicly anyways)... err, are you afraid to say publicly what you think? I meant to say "I don't think that we can say that". Our country, or at least the majority of it, is proud to say that Canada is tolerant, and does not discriminate based on race... The knee-jerk reaction might be to "kick them out" or "don't let them in", but we would be hypocritical to take this point of view and, at the same time boast about our distain for discrimantion.... Uh, is this all the fault of Mike Harris and the Conservatives? Is Stephen Harper to blame too? It can be traced directly to Mike Harris and his definition of "common sense"....Mike Harris promised "Not one penny from classroom education"... and then found that he needed some of this money for his big tax return. So he proceeded to vilify the teachers and school system... Spending a fortune on a new "standardized test" that was intended to make our schools look bad... So then he had to break his word and "reform" our school system.... And the first years reforms consisted of removing a half of a billion dollars from the school system's budget.... and no other reforms... So the schools had to lay off a large percentage of support staff.... directly because of Mike Harris's actions. But my distain is not limited to the Ontario Conservatives.... The Ontario Liberals are Conservatives in sheeps clothing, and haven't rectified any of the damage inflicted by Mike Harris and the Conservative Party. The one just nort of the USA... Not that it is North of the USA, and does not have overlapping boundaries.....

There you go again, Sparhawk. Stick a label on someone and then you can safely ignore them. For some reason, you have decided that this old guy is a homophobe/Liberal-basher and in your book, that means he's not worth listening to. August, do you not conclude from the old man's rant that he was a "Liberal basher".... Some things haven't changed.... but at least many of the gays can come out of the closet now... Since you are obviously so much smarter than all of the rest of us, could you please fill us in on some other potential topics the old man was alluding to that we should have seen to be as obvious as that assumed by Sparhawk and the majority of the rest of the readers ??? And in many others, it has improved.... Your opinion of Trudeau differs from that of John Lennon (the British guy, not the Russian one)

Then I'd recommend not joining any gangs... Hang out with other students... and, if you are worried about gun violence, etc, I would consider altering your plan to live in a "bad part of the city"....

Had you, or anyone else, bothered to read the title of the thread, you'd have noticed that I in no way claimed that the Conservatives were involved in this. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> This is true... Trudeau never once linked the pamphlet to the CPC party, but rather stated how distastful and incorrect the slur had been on the Liberal party by the offender. No reference nor suggestion was made to the offender's political affiliation... The other distateful website was not brought up by Trudeau, nor was its contents in any way affiliated by Trudeau to any political party. Shoop, Argus, et al. are just trying to make a "straw man" of Trudeau here, putting false words into Trudeau's mouth....... Is that a standard CPC supporter's tactic ???

It appears he came from a time when "men were men" who listened to "real music", and homosexuals didn't exist. Spar and Pocket are right on the money on this thread....

While I am not a fan of Paul Martin, I will applaud their support for "non-discrimination" based on sexual preference, religion, etc... I cannot say the same for your CPC party.... It would appear from your response that your sentiments lie closer to the CPC party and Bill Whatcott....

Under Clinton, the USA embraced Kyoto.... I'm doing this from memory, so excuse the lack of names and dates. The scientist who spearheaded the global campaign on ozone depletion had done such a good job in organizing that effort, they put him in charge of running the studies on CO2 emissions and the plan to alleviate the problem... Clinton gave him an office in the Whitehouse... Then, shortly after Bush was elected, Raymond (Whatshisname) from Exxon faxed George Bush with a demand to get rid of the head scientist who was organizing the whole thing... And Bush was only too happy to respond... The guy had been doing such a good job, that all the oil companies (except Exxon) had agreed with the science, and that steps needed to be taken. After Bush got rid of the head scientist, BP and other oil companies re-joined Exxon in their denial of the facts.... (It's been a long time since I read Linda McQuaig's "It's the Crude Dude", but there was at least a chapter dedicated to this topic.... I wholeheartedly recommend this enlightening book)

G & MBut another federal judge says this: National PostShould I be confused or expect the Supreme Court to decide? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The technicality was that Myriam Bedard apparently "quit voluntarily", rather than having been forced to resign.... I think an investigation will find that the undue duress placed on her due to Pelletiers' comments and actions would be sufficient to make any self-respecting person want to leave... as a consequence of the remarks... and the original ruling should be upheld, because her employer was "abusive".. We've all heard the remarks he made, and I don't think any Canadian would want that arsehole back in his job....

The media reports I heard never mentioned the race of the victim - your post was the first I here she was white. The only way I knew the perpetrators where blacks from Jamaica because I saw a mother of one of the accussed on television and could tell from her accent. The report did not actually mention he was black or from Jamaica Yes she is white. I agree - these terms are supposed to allow woman to avoid the stigma of being labelled rape victims, however, I feel they do the reverse by trivializing the offense. Agreed, but you also have to look at the legal implications of broadcasting details wrt the perpetrators right to a "fair trial".... because we don't want a technicality to get them off "if they are guilty", as it appears they are... This event is only one of a long list high profile crimes associated with the black community in toronto - specifically the Jamaican black community. If we had any sense we would ban further immigration from Jamaica until these problems can be resolved. I don't know that I can really say that (publicly anyways)... But what we can say is that the laws of the land must be upheld much better than they obviously have been.... Where the hell are the teachers and support staff that this could continue on...And then there's the big Liberal reaction... pumping $23 Million to fix the problem... I have to agree with Howard Hampton... That won't buy a pop machine for each school.... What they need is to hire back some of the councillors and support staff that were untimely ripped from the school system by Mike Harris's wonderful "school reforms"....

Health Care - Under the Canada Health Act, the federal government funds provincial health care under the conditions that it is publicly administered, and accessible.... Thus, this concern is both federal and provincial, because the feds aren't supposed to pay for health care that is not publicly administered unless the necessary treatment is not available, or not available in timely enough fashion. Education - Federal monies given to the provinces to adminster health care.... Child Care - a national program would be good... Martin has long talked about doing it... but mostly just before an election...

Actually, they don't need to be in water at all. Fluid (antifreeze type) is circulated in the pipes, and the ground heats it up....

It's a start... and funny how it is strongly in contrast with the Conservative position and Liberal actions. Maybe these parties can learn something from it...